so i just got into the game really
went clubbing and hated it. A.A killing me
i just couldnt approach
ive gone clubbing a lot of times with zero approaches

tonight i got back from clubbing and yeah i sort of opened 2 sets
reason why sort of is because

1. the first set (1 chick) i just made a comment about her dress.
and
2. a group i commented about their dance routine

anyways that was all i did. and i hated myself after it
in fact i stopped doing this game things ages ago cause i got sick and tired of feeling bad about myself for not approaching

so i guess my real question is
has anyone in their beginning gone out and done absolutely ZERO approaches
or am i already showing to be too behind in this (cos style got a no. on first approach, first night out)

also to those who did start out like me
how long did it take and what did you do to finally start approaching

thanks

Why do you focus on the matter of time to get good at pick up?

Since when do we focus on getting good at something at a specific time?

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I was just as awkward, in clubs I could barely get into the conversation with my friends, (seriously) let alone with strangers. It's still hard because I don't get to practice too much.

Learn more material (and real material, not the classic "hey, you're pretty" thing - that's stuff you should stop doing after you got into the PUA thing and stopped being an AFC)
Start casual conversations with stock material openers and transitions, practice them, and move on with your game and get better.
As for AA, do a Newbie Mission or two, and they say it will fade.

PS: Don't compare yourself to Style. That's a different man with different experiences and different background in a different setting and that's in no way related to your learning curve.

Yeah "You're gorgeous" doesn't work

. . .

Howcome that when you throw a stick and the dog goes catching it, does work?

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Some people are probably going to disagree with me here but in the beginning, I feel it's very good to have a canned opener. This helps because when you go into the set, you don't need to worry about what you're going to say, you know the likely routes the conversation will take and so on; it really helps with approach anxiety.
Once you've approached a couple of times, you'll see that it's rare to get an outright negative response - people generally aren't unnecessarily rude so the worst that's going to happen is that she finds some excuse to leave.

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some good advice
few things

the comparing me to style, wondering on how long itll take, seeing if anyone went through the same thing

all that comparison is just to give me feedback as to how i am doing
and motivate me further
but yeh i want to progress quickly too of course. why not. esp since im older then most people here (seems to be lot of 18 yr olds)

as for the first open. i agree. too afc. i even thought it after i said it to her. but it just came out. so im just glad i opened

for canned material
i know it sounds good. a clever question thought out before hand so that you can just open quickly.
but yet i cannot do them for some reason. i feel like ill get caught out
and not even with their given openers but with my own made up ones
how crazy is this.
i also feel awkward cos i know its not spontanous etc

I am scared until this day to do approaches after sarging for about 2 years.

But what gets me doing them is After about one or two sets, I really start having fun and my AA goes away. Is like I am on cloud nine.

A man reaps what he sows - if you fully comit yourself and get out there field testing stuff you will see improvements much quicker than you think.

And instead of just visiting these forums aimlessly like many do everyday, write a journal, and lay out the qualities you want to attain, and how you will achieve them.

Without a gameplan, the Packers don't win the Superbowl - you get me?

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I think it's all about trial and error, you only get good at something if you do it time and time again. Yes at first you will be poor, but you take note of what went wrong and slowly but surely remove the error.

I suffer with AA quite badly, but it's interesting to see how the level of AA changes depending on who i'm with. If i'm with friends who also want to sarge, then I feel more confident and don't mind a non-starter.. however, if i'm with a handful of other friends (some of which have gf's), they take the piss if it goes wrong, cause they're so naive and don't understand how the cycle works.

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