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Ok let me explain what I mean then. Women in society generally are the ones who hold the keys to sex. WE are the ones appoaching them and basically begging them for sex - they aren't the ones getting rejected.
Talked to many girls on this subject? With this justification it's always interesting to see one group tell another group how they opperate and what they experience.
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So basically the only reason why girls can be percieved as sluts is because they LET lots of guys fuck them. (not to say there is anything wrong with that - but it is society's opinion)

Guys who manage to get lots of girls to fuck them aren't percieved as sluts because it is difficult - in comparison to women because they are the ones who give guys sex.


This again is based on the assumption that women can have sex whenever they want.
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Women have the power to give out sex, and by making it easy for any man to have sex with her she is percieved as a slut. A man who is able to get many women to allow him to fuck them is considered awesome because it is difficult.
Difficult in comparison to what? Women trying to get sex?

Again, asking around tends to provide a somewhat different narrative.

I understand what the analogy is alluding to, I just fail to see how anyone can see it as a good argument.


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Ok let me explain what I mean then. Women in society generally are the ones who hold the keys to sex. WE are the ones appoaching them and basically begging them for sex - they aren't the ones getting rejected.
Talked to many girls on this subject? With this justification it's always interesting to see one group tell another group how they opperate and what they experience.
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So basically the only reason why girls can be percieved as sluts is because they LET lots of guys fuck them. (not to say there is anything wrong with that - but it is society's opinion)

Guys who manage to get lots of girls to fuck them aren't percieved as sluts because it is difficult - in comparison to women because they are the ones who give guys sex.


This again is based on the assumption that women can have sex whenever they want.
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Women have the power to give out sex, and by making it easy for any man to have sex with her she is percieved as a slut. A man who is able to get many women to allow him to fuck them is considered awesome because it is difficult.
Difficult in comparison to what? Women trying to get sex?

Again, asking around tends to provide a somewhat different narrative.

I understand what the analogy is alluding to, I just fail to see how anyone can see it as a good argument.
Girls can, generally, have sex whenever they want. They are the ones who reject us! And if some average girl approached guys, I am pretty sure she would get laid.

Ok, then explain your view on the matter to me based on what you have found out from other people, instead of critiquing my view without a coherent counter argument.

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Girls can, generally, have sex whenever they want. They are the ones who reject us! And if some average girl approached guys, I am pretty sure she would get laid.

Ok, then explain your view on the matter to me based on what you have found out from other people, instead of critiquing my view without a coherent counter argument.
I've given my counter argument. What I haven't done is provided a counter position.

But care to explain how whining at someone elses position would make your position more logical? Is it like an intellectual AMOGing?

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Saying girls can have sex whenever they want is what this paradigm rests on, and its just not true.

During your freshers year at Uni you should've met plenty of girls looking to get laid and fucking the whole process up or chickening out, much in the same way guys do here! :lol:


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Girls can, generally, have sex whenever they want. They are the ones who reject us! And if some average girl approached guys, I am pretty sure she would get laid.

Ok, then explain your view on the matter to me based on what you have found out from other people, instead of critiquing my view without a coherent counter argument.
I've given my counter argument. What I haven't done is provided a counter position.

But care to explain how whining at someone elses position would make your position more logical? Is it like an intellectual AMOGing?

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Saying girls can have sex whenever they want is what this paradigm rests on, and its just not true.

During your freshers year at Uni you should've met plenty of girls looking to get laid and fucking the whole process up or chickening out, much in the same way guys do here! :lol:
Whatever I'll just agree to disagree :P - I don't want another long winded debate like last time :D

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Guys tend to have a pretty hypocritical view on how a woman's promiscuity is viewed i.e when a guy is looking for multiple partners for casual sex, a promiscuous woman is completely acceptable and should be encouraged...but when its the same guys sister, daughter or close female friend, sexual promiscuity is unacceptable and discouraged because of the way it will lead that sister, daughter or close female friend to be treated by the rest of the world.

It would seem that in PUA, condemnation of the use of the word slut is viewed as some high principle about the liberation of women's sexuality, when in reality...the only time a women is encouraged to be sexually promiscuous would be when it would be to the benefit of the guy or guys doing the 'encouraging'


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Girls can, generally, have sex whenever they want. They are the ones who reject us! And if some average girl approached guys, I am pretty sure she would get laid.
A bit off course here, but regardless...

It's true- for most women, getting laid is not much of an accomplishment. But that's not to say women don't experience rejection- they do. Women experience rejection when they don't receive long term commitment from the men that fuck them. We seek love and romance, and feel just as rejected when we don't get that from you in return as you do when we turn you down for a ONS.

With that being said, you make a point about how it's you that has to approach women, and hence it is in their power to reject- but what about the women you don't approach? It's not like you're giving every girl in the club an equal shot; you are in fact the first one to do the choosing. YOU chose HER by approaching her; it is only after YOU made your move that she has the power to choose for herself. You guys have no idea how much power you hold in this game of seduction.

As a last FYI, you should know that women do in fact experience AA. I can't tell you how many times I've had to talk up one of my girlfriends to a certain guy because they were too shy or embarrassed to make a move themselves. I bet if I recorded a conversation I was having with a girl that spotted a guy she liked and wanted to meet, it would sound a lot like the conversations you have with your guys when you're out sarging.


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allright...

so there are sluts...

or as might be better caled .... liberated girls... they fuck as they like (until they find one they wanna fuck for a while)

and there are good girls... (or the ones you need to liberate)

either way... girls like sex, and they dont have to work as hard as we do...

so...

so...

that is why we be the guys giving them that sex that they want... that is why we are those guys corrupting hge good girls until they are our sluts!

fuck it...

it's a names... the person and style are the same!

you know and so do i... and we both like it!

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All women are sluts on the inside. What makes a slut a slut, is that she gives away the truth and other women hate that. There is a fantasy that women aren't sluts and don't like sex which is very, very false. Lots of money is being made off that as a result so women do not like other women who unveil the truth. And those who unveil the truth, found a way to make money with it: strippers+hookers.


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YES, sluts exist, because there are people out there who fit the definition of what a 'slut' is, I'll leave the definition up to others.

The only question is whether or not you give a shit.

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I found a quick acronym for SLUT: Sweet Little Unforgettable Thing

Hehe... I love em. Good sluts are hard to find and when you do find one, you are probably hard. The old saying "treat a whore like a princess and a princess like a whore" is definitely true with this breed of females.

I don't consider the typical librarian type girl necessarily a "slut" until you realize, she's probably wearing a thong or no panties under her dress. The nympho is closely related to this. That girl in the miniskirt with no bra and heels a bit too high is probably a good slut too, in my humble opinion. I've heard girls refer to each other by this term. Ex. "You fucked _____ (your name)? You are such a slut!" and the other girl says, "No I'm not!" when in reality, she was a good slut. It can also be used to insult someone as I would never call a girl a slut to her face.

Men can be sluts too. The man slut is a rare variety commonly known as a PUA or player. Any questions?

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Us guys invented the word slut, Us guys are now paying for it.
all the word SLUT does is increase LMR, and makes for higher bitch shields at clubs.
If it was socially accepted for a girl to kiss 100 guys and have sex every night, if we called her a superstar and not a slut, every guy would have sex exponentially more!


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Us guys invented the word slut, Us guys are now paying for it.
all the word SLUT does is increase LMR, and makes for higher bitch shields at clubs.
If it was socially accepted for a girl to kiss 100 guys and have sex every night, if we called her a superstar and not a slut, every guy would have sex exponentially more!

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I've really tried to stop using the term, just because it always depends on who is using it.

A guy calls a girl a slut when she has sex with guys, but won't fuck him.
A girl calls a girl a slut when she is jealous of the "slut" getting attention from guys, particularly a guy she's really interested in.
A girl calls a guy a slut when she slept with him and got played, or when that happened to one of her girlfriends with that guy.

So as far as I'm concerned, the term really has nothing to do with how much sex you get as much as who you do or don't sleep with. It's always seemed weird that the PUA community, and guys overall in all honesty, want to get laid yet criticize women for acting similarly. I even hate the term HB, because it just strikes me as demeaning (I won't be crusading to get rid of it, just my 2 cents on things).

In fact, it is the guys who want to fuck the most that should be against terms like slut. You don't have to be a wuss about it, but you can be great with women while respecting them as human beings. Hell, I would rather hook up with a girl who is mature and intelligent when it comes to matters involving sex. I have done it, and it is way easier than dealing with the girl who thinks sleeping with me will lead to a committed relationship and waaaaaay easier than dealing with the girl who's self-esteem is so low that she can only feel some value as a human being while bouncing on the nearest dick.

Had to throw that last sentence in, the rest of the post was sounding way too serious.


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reading the first post this reminds me of a quote.

There is no right or wrong, only the consequences.

yup sluts exist. there is a lot of good with them and a lot of bad


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