hey guys whats this about the community being fake and a fraude...i came across this website called http://www.puahate.com/

Also stuff being said bout Kezia noble..
I got her book and some day im thinkin of doing a bootcamp or even 7 day masterpickup course but that as u might know is veryy expensive..

I dont think shes a fraude but one cant help getting 2nd thoughts especially when it comes to spending so much money...

Does anyone have experience on Kezia bootcamps?

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I have no idea what's up with that forum. They pop up a LOT in google searches. I'm guessing it's a community founded by shmucks who thought the key to getting good was to throw a lot of money at a guru and they'l magically become masters.

There are some twats on there, but the idea behind it is good. There are a lot of guys who just want to make easy money from desperate lonely guys by talking bollocks and pretending to be good with women. I'd say about 75% of the gurus are useless with women. Most of them don't even get laid that much. Take Mehow for example, that guy started teaching bootcamps on how to get laid while he was still a virgin. People buy his shit and say he's awesome, but they don't realise how shit he actually is. They shouldn't be allowed to get away with it.

I've surfed around PUA Hate a few times and there is some pretty darn good pick up information there.

The reason it's good information is it is coming from naturals that don't need canned materials, don't need to break things down into A1s vs A3s or S2s etc but can just encounter a female in daily life and talk to her and interact with her.

I agree that paying outragious amounts of $$ for bootcamps and hundreds of $s for DVD sets is just praying on social misfits that probably need actual cognitive and behavioural therapy to learn to interact with other people in a personal manner.

Give me $100 and in a weekend I can teach you how to walk up to a woman and introduce yourself and start a conversation with her. Ask her to go to bed with you at some point in the conversation and a certain % will go for it.

Take the rest of the thousands of dollars you'll save by not going to a bootcamp and use that $$ to get a gym membership and trainer, a new hairstyle, contact lenses, a updated wardrobe and some kind of continuing education to learn a new skill or activity and that % of women that will go to bed with you for simply asking will increase substantially.