Hey guys, =]

Firstly, excuse me for my english if it happens to be bad, but I'm german. Of course there are also german pua-boards, but they are mostly full of wannabes, and that's why im posting here.
I read the forum for about 2 months now.

Regarding me (incl. the prologue): I was in a 4 year long relationship with that girl, who cheated on me with at least 3 different guys. I broke up about a year ago because of that, telling her to fuck off, die, and never call me again.
About 3 times in that year she drove the 400km to where I live now (wanted to move in with her when university begins, but after that shit i moved away to get into a far better uni) and stood infront of the door crying and saying she wanted me back („mistakes“; „sorry“, I dont have to tell you guys). So my roommate wanted to throw her out instantly or never even let her in, but i was like „you cant let a 20 year old girl so far from home stay on the street“), so i let her sleep at my place and somehow we managed to just stay in bed, watch movies and fuck for several days.

We didn't have much other contact in that time except those „happy birthday“-texts and so on.

And finally, before I get to the real problem: the girl is kind of a nympho. She likes it better 5 times a day than once, and shes into stuff you wouldnt see in most pornmovies (not that i would complain about that, but I rather give you guys as much info as i can..... ;>)

Well, in the past 2 months i started my game, including weightlifitng to change the outer appeareance of myself. I didn't have to talk to girls much, because i had one all my life, that's why i had to start at the very beginning. Now I can talk to girls at work and in university, getting smiles and numbers. What I'm learning next is kino. Just so that you guys know my level.

Enough prologue.

As I said, I'm a beginner. But I think my question is advanced (in which board im not yet allowed to post, that's why im posting here).

Some days ago i started chatting with the girl again, for whatever reasons, just boredom and stonedness/bakedness (does any of those words even exist? ~~) maybe.

She told me that she met a new friend (female), and after several [insert whatever collegepartystories you can think of], they started making out. Her friend was visiting her and stayed for 3 nights. They just kissed and touched each other.

So then she told me they were talking about having sex and even a threesome. My ex was like „np, but IF i do it, I will do it with him (me)“.

Next thing she told me was the obvious: of course me and the girl had to get to know each other first and see if it „sparkles“ between the three of us.

I have about a month of time, before I see the two girls.

Guys. I am fucking scared. I don't know how to behave AT ALL. I don't know where to take them to get to know her, I don't know what to say so she says yes to the idea of the threesome. I fucking don't even know what to wear.

And there is another fear of mine: what IF I happen to find myself into that threesome?
How do I have to behave? What do i have to know? What are some nice moves to pull out in a threesome? How the fuck do i cum (in the best case they want it in both of their faces like in porns, but how high is the chance......?)

As far as I understood, they want to do this mainly for the kinky lesbian experience („idk, maybe if she doesn't want you you join you can watch the both of us“.....), that's another fact you should know i think.


Think of it that way guys: if you help a dude getting into a threesome, you will KNOW FOR ALL YOUR LIFE that someone out there is THANKFUL to you for as long as he lives. =]

If you have any more questions that need to be answered in order to help me, I'm happy to answer them.

Btw:

model-kartei(DOT)de/bilder/bild/8230806/

That's the other girl, I can't find a proper pic of my ex on the web.
But if we consider her a 9, my ex is a 7.5.


Thank you, guys.

Relax.

I've had a couple of threesomes.

It's not the end-all-be-all of existence.

Actually sometimes it can be awkward (in a good way), lol.

I just rolled with it in mine. I have no advice. Where to cum? Wherever they want you to!

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what dr. house brings to medicine, i bring to everyday life (an extreme dose of cynicism), don't listen to the curmudgeon!

I have had a number of FMF threesomes and A LOT of group encounters so I may be able to help a little bit.

For starters if this gal is talking to you about this it means she is OK with the idea and has probably already talked to the other gal about it as well.

The thing to keep in mind is they are doing this for THEM and not for you. This is THEIR fantasy, your old girlfriend simply has enough trust and comfort with you that she is willing to try this using you.

They have already picked you out, Your biggest challenge is to simply NOT FUCK IT UP.

They key here is you will need to do a couple things. The first thing you will need to do is not try to come in between the two ladies. Their relationship and comfort with each other is critical. Your job will be to not show any real preference for one over the other but will need to embrace both and to nuture their attraction and comfort for each other. (example point out attractive and desirable features of one to the other so that the other one appreciates her too and then to the same for the other. Get each of them to compliment and accept each other etc.

Then you will need to flirt with and interact with both ladies. The other woman will have to be attracted to you and have a chemistry and comfort with you as well as your old girlfriend. you will have to engage her while not turning the cold shoulder on your girlfriend.

You will need to build some attraction and chemistry and comfort with both of them. You will need to kino and escalate with both of them but the real key is to get them to kino and escalate with EACH OTHER. Get them to kino with each other with you present but with them kinoing each other.

If you can get them to arouse and stimulate each other while you are touching and stimulating both of them then at some point they will be aroused enough they will want some dick.

Strive to get physically close enough to them that all three bodies are in contact and there are 6 hands all over everyone.

Again the important thing for you is to just not fuck it up. The ways to fuck this up are -

- Get sloppy drunk and act like a drunken dickhead.

- Come on too strong from the beginning. Remember "ESCALATE"

- Make it about you and make it seem like you are wanting them to pleasure you. Rember, make it about them pleasuring each other in the beginning. once they are fully aroused then they will want to fuck you.

- Show preferential SPAM and attention to one. You want them both to feel special and feel desired.

- And probably the biggest way to fuck this up is to sit and do nothing. You will need to be engaged and active and interactive with both of them.

Hope this helps,

Make sure you write back and tell us how it went!!!!

Thanks so far guys!
Well, for now, the thing is a huge deal for me. AFC's would consider this a one in a lifetime opportunity. =]

I know that the both of them talked about it.
I dont think i pointed one fact out enough: I dont know the other girl (the one from the pic) yet. In 3-4 weeks i will visit my sister back home, and i'll stay some days at my ex's place. Until then the other girl (who now lives somewhere else to study) will have moved to the city and the two of them hang out more (in about a week).

Of course the other girl didn't agree to have a threesome with me, without getting to know me or even see a picture. So i have to take both of them out at once to "get to know each other and see what happens from there on".

Where should I take them? By chance there happens to be a fair in the city at that time (the second biggest in germany after the Oktoberfest). Would that be a good place? Or should i take them somewhere expensive to eat to show some culture (she's going to be a teacher and at least shes a model, wheter amateur or not).

I don't think it is a good idea to just meet at the place of someone and have a drink. This would be an awkward environment from the beginning on.

Also, for beginning kino: should I offer both of them an arm when we are walking somewhere? To show some possessiveness i mean. And maybe to get the both of them used to the thought of touching me at the same time from the very beginning on.

Thanks again =)

It really doesn't matter if you take them to a barefoot jello-stomping contest while wearing your sister's pink ballerina dress. What is important is to get together with them and engage them and systematically escalate them and get them to feel comfortable and sexual with each other as well as you.

Meeting them at a safe public place that is quiet and calm enough for the 3 of you to engage each other without a lot of background noise and chaos and distractions will work best. A nice restaurant is fine. A fair with a lot of noise and activity will be distracting and they may get caught up in all of that activity and delay or put off the 3some. If you go to some bar or dance club they will be getting hit on by other guys and you run the risk of getting AMOG'd.

A classy restaurant with a bar area is fine. You can have dinner and talk to get to know them. Ask them how they met and got to know each other. Get them talking about THEIR relationship and set a sexual frame of how they feel about each other.

After dinner move to the bar area of the restaurant and have a couple drinks. Try to position yourself seated at the bar with your back to the bar and them standing at each of your sides and start to kino them and and get them to kino each other.

Walking them in to the restuarant on your arms is fine. The key is to start to kino them subtly in a nonsexual manner at first and then escalate and get them to escalate each other. Touch them in a nonsexual manner on the forearm, upper arm, back of the hand within the first few moments of meeting them. Do it slowly, naturally and then remove your hand in a couple seconds. Do it right off the bat, do not wait to start to touch them.

A good description of escalation is Dicarlos Escalation Ladder (google Dicarlo Escalation Ladder and employ each step)

Preselect a sex location (it can be your house or a hotel or your GF's house) and then come up with a reason OTHER THAN THE 3WAY to return to your house. You could say that you bought a bottle of new wine that you are wanting to check out or that you want to change clothes to go somewhere else or say that you need to feed your pet guinea pig, it doesn't matter why, just have a natural and logical reason that you all need to go to the sex location only do NOT say that it is a sex location. You do not want to set off their ASD.

Once you are at that location then begin to escalate in a more sexual manner and get them to escalate each other sexually.

Thanks for your tips again, you're really helpful.

So what would bee a good location in your opinion. I can chose between the place of my ex, who has 2 roommates (she has her own room though), the place of hte other girl, from whom i dont know if she has roommates or not or how she lives at all and finally the hotel.

Place of the ex: dangerous, because I don't know if her roomates will be home and the girls then are uncomfortable with being heared or stuff....

Place of the other girl: I don't know it at all, and it will be hard for me to come with a good reason to go there, because i have nothing to do with it. But if she says she lives alone, it would be the best solution imo. I will find out how she lives tonight.

Hotel: I've been in a hotel once for such a reason and i didn't like it at all. Everything seemed so white and sterile and it's hard to get into the right mood.


If we go to the place of my ex, I could set up some shit like candles for the moot or something like that. Having lube and massagingoil to your hand when you need it, also is nothing bad.

I think foreplay is a really big deal in that situation. I was thinking about laying them both on their stomach next to each other, me on my knees inbetween them and giving them a massage with one hand each first. Like in the beginning on the back and then below their backs, I don't think I need to tell you guys.

Another idea was to chose one first and massage her with the other girl with 4 hands, then, after like 10-15 minutes change the girl, and finally they could massage me.

What do you think is better to start of with?


Sorry for asking so many questions, but i promise i will help out as much as I can, if I'm able to. =]

How close are you to this ex girlfriend? How interested in this encounter is she?How much of this can you plot out with her?

If she is totally into and wanting to make it happen, you should be plotting some of this with her. If she is wanting to do you and this other together then she is the ultimate wingman/wingwoman in all of time and space.

If she can get her place ready and get the roomates out of the house for a night, that would be the best location since it is a place she/you will have control over and can have things set up and can have an excuse to go back to.

If she is not 100% bought into it or if she can not guarentee that the roomates will be out of the house then stay at a hotel near where you plan to meet them for dinner.

It would be a plus if the hotel has a hot tub or spa or something. (We have a hot tub at the house and it works wonders for getting people naked, relaxed and in the right frame of mind)

Anyway if you are staying near the restaurant or if the hotel has a restaurant/bar meet there. Then after you have had some drinks at the bar and have started to escalate the kino, come up with a plausable excuse to go to your room (do not say "come to my room and lets fuck" )

I'm guessing you have read The Game where Style discusses the Dual Induction Massage. That is actually not a bad method but when you break it down to it's core, it is essentially simply getting the ladies to kino and arouse each other while you touch and interact with both. It's a valid technique but the bottom line is getting them to kino escalate each other with you interacting with both of them.

The first FMF 3some I ever had we came back to the house after a night out on the town with some dancing and flirting and we played Truth or Dare with a deck of XXX cards. In asking truth questions we asked each other what turns us on and what kinds of kinky things you like to do and then when the dares started they dared each other to do things with me and I dared them to do things with each other.

When the other lady realized we were swingers and that my wife was OK with her screwing me she practically dragged us up to our own bedroom.

Since then we have discretely played Truth or Dare at the dinner table with other couples and ladies within less than an hour of meeting. It's a good way to break to the ice and get the kino going too.