There's a girl I've known for a while and we've flirted for a while. I haven't even ever kissed her.

Tonight while she was on my bed, I shot out a lame line like "hey, teach me how to give massages" and I started rubbing her back and she said "ahh get off me...don't touch me" and I was thinking (ah wtf?). She used to rub me and give me massages all the time. Anyway, she kino's me a lot, pushes me on the bed and crap like that, but I just can't gather up the cajones to kiss her or try anything else, plus... I don't know how to do it. I mean, If she's laying there on my bed face down and reading, should I just walk over, roll her over without asking and kiss her or what? I'm beginning to hate myself, lol, this is the third time she's been here and nada.

Use Mystery's kiss close...

OK. is that it? I''ll try that, but are there any other options?

Yep, there's another option..

Been working great for years.

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hahahaah yeah you can always try that

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come on give the guy some good advice!

Your going to have to pull the trigger pretty soon or she will lose intrest. She already is, she doesnt seem to be up for following you on an adventure (the massage). Your losing her...

So you can just sit here and read this, find out all these techniques on how to kiss her. OR you can simply go and kiss her. If she doesnt like it, no loss. Just keep gaming her till she is ready. If she does like it good for you!


YOUR ALREADY NOT FUCKING HER! What do you have to lose?

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That's a great point.

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Think about taking another guys dick in your mouth, if that doesn't appeal your not gay.

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dude what you wanna do is the next tiime she;s over tell her that line about massage again or something like hey wanna give it another shot at the back rub or something along those lines, when she lies down sit down on her ass and just start lightly massaging her back and shoulders and dont feel to scared to roam if she' already down then she probably wont mind, and if she lets you roam abit like on the side of her tit then tell her to sit up, once she's up try this

you: what would you do if i kissed you right now?

she can reply several different ways 1.) idk 2.)or she'll say not to

if she says idk lean in as if you were going to but pull back and see if she follows if she does your in like schwin

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Whenever a girl says NO...

"No not in my mouth please..."

"No, dont touch me anymore..."

"NO not in my butt...."


FREEZE HER OUT, act intrested in something else and basically ignore her...in this case you shoulda started checking your email or something

Say in a fun conversation hey kiss me. It's a ballsy move but if you know what your doing it works. Or you can escort her to her car after going out hold her hand to the car door and say your her protector in case someone try's to rob her on the way to the car. When she squeezes your hand you've got a pretty good idea she's willing to kiss. Then as soon as you arrive at the car you spin her around and go in for the kiss. She should go for it, and if she doesn't then she might be more into women than men.

I'd try me how's trust test

tell her to hold you hand,when she does squeeze it if she squeezes back tell her she pass the first part of the trust test but there are 4 more levels to go. t
move your hands around if she follows tell her she has passed the second part of the test. 3rd part of the test your just pretend to dance .....this isn't really a test just tell her your doing it to make her look like a dork. 4th part of the test forehead to forehead. 5th part nose to nose .......if you get to the last part there will defiantly be enough sexual tension to escalate

i always use this line....works every time



when ur laying next to her get your face really close and just chat there for a short while. look at her lips and then her eyes periodically. if she looks at your lips at all, just say "i'm trying really hard not to kiss you"

if she says why or anything else, kiss her. if she says don't, then say "haha i wasn't planning to girl dont get your hopes up"



i think mystery's way was to literally ask 'do you want to kiss me?"

if she says anything besides no, kiss her.

if she says no, then say "good cuz u kinda had that look and i was getting worried"


hope this helps, GET THAT SHITTTT

dude, just act all playful DO NOT TAKE YOURSELF TO SERIOUSLY, and tell her that she smells nice, what is she wearing, say that she smells so delicious, and bite her gently, then tell her to bite you, and just kiss her, pull back for a moment, esculate kino and:

"take her by the hand to the promised land"

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This is coming from some one who gives professional massages daily, and who uses them as a kino gambit.

First, to give a good massage learn the anatomy of the shoulders and back. Massages are a lot like dancing, if your not good you're probably not good in bed.

Second, fucking talk to her! Ask if it feels good. You could be pressing to hard. There's that bed thing again.

Finally, since you are using this as foreplay, be gentle with your touch and your voice. I've used this many times on my dates and it almost always works.