Hello everyone,

LONG THREAD BUT PLEASE BARE WITH ME!!

THE RELATIONSHIP I HAVE WITH THIS GIRL
Hooked up during summer time (a lot) then she went to university in another city and I stayed where I was.
My feelings grew on her but decided to move on since I thought it was an one-itis, gamed couple chicks to get my mind off her but she was still "in there"

(we'll call her Amanda)

I really need help on this one and I want your honest opinion.

So I went to a party last night, I got invited by Amanda (the one i like) who lives on university residence (I live in a city nearby, maybe 35-40 minutes drive)

I was pretty drunk at the party and so was she,

When the party was dying a bit I wanted to go to the washroom but figured

someone was already inside so I waited...5 minutes...7 minutes...then my

impatience really grew on me and I knocked on the door to know if everything

was ok. To my suprise, Amanda was in and she only opened a small gap of the

door, when she saw me she told me to get in. I asked her, couple questions like

"shit are you okay, its okay if you wanna puke" but she just wanted to be "alone"

and apparently did not puke.

We made out a bit in the toilet, and she said "I miss us!!"

I did not reply to this one but it got me thinking, so we left the bathroom and went

to her room, locked it and did a couple of naughty things.



Remember we were both pretty drunk, but I know some of you will say "yea she was drunk so it doesnt count" but i know this night hints me to a lot of things

(we acted like a couple)

Then while cuddling she was telling me a bunch of stuff like

Amanda : I really miss us, and I really miss cuddle and kissing you

ME: haa really, same, I actually really like you

Amanda: Yea me too but you know, i dont think im looking for a relationship and im pretty sure youre not too

Me: what if i am?

Amanda: So you want me and you to go exclusive?

ME: Maybe

Then the convo died and I honestly just wanted to go to sleep
(it was 4:30am)

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The next morning, she kept cuddling and kissing me (i dont think she was drunk anymore) then when we got up, we started talking like we always used to, like good friends.



Now can you guys tell me what the hell i should do here?


She finishes exams in a month so I dont wanna give her the stress to ask her if she wants to be in a relationship with me.

Im really confused and say to myself things i should do then i go and try do it but i think its a stupid idea and end up not doing it

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Defining progress of evolution:

Being in an uncomfortable situation.

Thanks for sharing this report.

But why the hell do you want to get exclusive with this chicc?

Why not just keep it on a fling leverl?

You,as the man,should not be the one pushing for an LTR.

Leave that up to her;let her go through the mental & emotional hurricane.

Your job should be to make the decision to accept or decline her offer.

But you should not be proposing an LTR with this girl.

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Well I kinda want a LTR with her because i actually really do like her...

But what can I do in order for her to be "that" interested to also wanna have a LTR?

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Defining progress of evolution:

Being in an uncomfortable situation.

Drunk men don't lie, I think it's the same for girls aswell.

Anyway,

A little translation:

Amanda : I really miss us, and I really miss cuddle and kissing you (pretty obvious.....)

ME: haa really, same, I actually really like you (pretty obvious aswell)

Amanda: Yea me too but you know, i dont think im looking for a relationship and im pretty sure youre not too (translation: I'm too scared to make the first move)

Me: what if i am? (good so far)

Amanda: So you want me and you to go exclusive? (She KNOWS where this is going...)

ME: Maybe

AND NOW YOU PUSSY OUT.


damn, -10 man points for you.

If you keep bullshit up like that it'll only get you more 'i'm not sure' reactions.


Anyway, You're probably already too old to do the whole 'sign this love contract before we can be bf/gf' but because she brought it up (which should tell you something about her) I'll let it slide.


Anyway, she's game for your advances. Now you play the part of the lovin' boyfriend by taking her out tons and doing stuff together.

geez man, you are so right. I really did pussy out man fuck.

But what do I do now? Honestly what i was going to do was to call her and be like

"hey amanda, I really like you and I think you're feeling the same way, I know you're not looking for a relationship but I think we'll be great together. We'll take things slow but i'd like you to be my girlfriend"

something along those line, what do you guys think?

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Defining progress of evolution:

Being in an uncomfortable situation.

After the last catastrophic pussy-out you might want to turn things up a notch and reframe.

Take her out for a day again, have another good time, and ask her out. Don't do any "Hey man I know that maybe you might not want to um well uh" shit, just flat out ask her out. I mean, let's compare

1. "Hey umm well I know you don't want an LTR and umm well I kinda really like you and you were giving me some serious IOI's so umm maybe well uh I'd really like it if you would uh how can I say be my girlfriend hehe?"
2. "Want to date?"

A "no" to both situations is EQUALLY as rejecting/devastating/whatever, and a "yes" is equally as good.

PS. Play off your previous "Maybe." pussying-out as if you had done that intentionally to show disinterest. Ie, next time you discuss it, you can be like "Look, I think you're great, but I get the feeling that you don't really want an LTR," - make her feel like that 'maybe' is due to her own lack of qualification, and force her to qualify again. Don't be too overt, though, because it really WAS you just being a pussy and she might take it like you're just being a douchebag if you aren't genuine about it. That is, don't be like "I THINK YOU'RE WASTING MY TIME" or something like that.

Hey, thanks for the input i really appreciated.
But i can't really "take her out" since she lives 45 minutes from my city and she told me she wont be back in town till april 20th (her last exam), so what do I do in this case? That's why I needed some opinion about me calling her, what do you guys think?

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Defining progress of evolution:

Being in an uncomfortable situation.

Hmm, from what I read it sounded like when she was all "warm and tingly" from the alcohol, she wanted to be your girlfriend.

Then, in the morning after the alcohol wore off she was acting "just like good friends again" (your own words).

Dude, you've got yourself a Grade-A FuckBuddy!

I don't know that I would push for an LTR with her. I would toy around the idea with FuckBuddy for sure...

haha dude, we were actually fuck buddies during summer.

should it stay this way or fuck it?

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Defining progress of evolution:

Being in an uncomfortable situation.

I agree with Mack 2.0 mostly on this thread.

Guys,relationships are never physical contracts.

No one asks the other,"Hey let's be together".

It just happens.

Go with the flow and keep it natural.

Sex eventually leads to LTR in most cases where an LTR has materilized.

No one sits down and plan a stratergy for an LTR.

Let it go and see where it goes.

If she pushes for an LTR(verbally or by actions-via acting like a gf),then you can accept.

But if she isnt throwing the bait out there,nor acting like a gf,then she doesnt truely want committment.

Guys,we need to understand that women are very content with just flings and being an fb-no strings attached.

So before you go diving off the cliff[which you've done emotionally],you've got to find out which type of female you're dealing with.

If she's the fling type,you will regret getting into an LTR with her since she'll undoubtedly cheat on you.

Is she scared to commit?

If she is,she will cheat on you and leave you soon after,if you do manage to force her into an LTR.

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In vino veritas.

Translation: In wine there is the truth.

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Stay cool.

hey guys, apparently a friend of mine talked to her and she said she seriously doesnt want a LTR, she also said that she was pretty drunk and she was acting really stupid.

But I know she has a thing for me.

well hey guys, thanks A LOT for the help. damn i needed that.

fuckin love this community.

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Defining progress of evolution:

Being in an uncomfortable situation.

Now with that being known(she not wanting an LTR),you would've made yourself looked like a clown,and made the girl run for the hills a you would get clingy.

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Bro, just let her make the decision for a LTR, dont push it on her be a playah and game other girls while with her. To be honest if u do that she will feel jealous. No women wants to get with a guy who is easy.... David Deangelo pretty much explains women want the opposite in guys. They need you to be hard to get, if u reveal to early u want her then she will feel like ur the type of guy who is easy.

Bang her so many times and game girls so then she cant stop thinking about u then after a while change her mind to make her want what u want an LTR. To be up front will just make things go worst, i have fallen in this situation many times and ur going the same path. If a girl says she likes cuddling and kissing say u agree and just do things under ur terms of when and where... So if she says lets do stuff now u make the decision whether u want or not, then she will continue to think about u. Dont be so easy, just saying u want a LTR right away is a total AFC especially after the moment u guys got drunk. Women will have many questions in there minds why u do things and playing easy is a big WARNING sign!

Dont be an AFC and tell her u want to be friends, then continue doing what u do which is friends with benefits until she cant stop thinking about u play with her emotions by pulling away till she eventually snaps and falls into ur trap whereby u then both fall into a LTR.

Ready David deangleos (DD) stuff he explains how this idea of wanting a LTR so badly is a turn off for women and that you should always stick to building a relationship through friendship and etc.

Women produce 1 egg and guys million of sperms, so the women must choose u not the other way around. Let her propose things and just agree to it!

If she then says no after u agree to her stuff, and thinks ur using her (Which probably wont happen) then to be straight up the LTR wouldnt have worked out!

Dont be an AFC and simply continue gaming without attachements it ruins ur whole idea of being a PUA. Why would u wanna be a PUA or read this stuff if u just are doing the samething over and over again when it does not work!

Just re-think what ur doing and honestly think why u are failing then re-caliberate ur thoughts and ways to fix it! Its not over just yet till she says no... and dont worry about her exams worry about urself, ask her out when u want do what u want dont follow her schedule its ur life... she can as easily dump u and then ur stuck with the burden of after thoughts "WHAT IF" so dont be an AFC and become a PUA !