Just from my own experiences so far...

Routines that work well:

High Fives (and grading her on it)
Thumb War
5 Lies
Finger Length
Egg Yolk
Masturbate in the Shower
Cool Handshakes that you can show her
Retard line palm read (use with caution)
Guessing their occupation
Is she always like this? / how do you roll with this girl? (neg)

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Routines that come off as 'weird' or are just plain transparent:

Best Friends Test
Trust Test
Are you adventurous / spontanious k-close routine
Are you a good kisser? Let's find out... k-close routine
What you got going for you more than your looks (even if they do qualify themselves it's a fucking weird question to ask).

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Routines that work on certain girls:

Adopting her as your little sister (some think it's super cute, others think it's weird).
The Cube (some girls are smart enough to say 'that could apply to most people').
Tell me 3 interesting things about yourself but make one of them a lie.

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Other stuff I've learnt or verified from being in-field:

If the girls 'girl code' each other shortly after opening call them on it - most of the time they'll laugh and open up a bit.

Body language is important

Studying IOIs is very useful so you know what to look for

If you don't qualify or build comfort, the girl will flake almost every time even though you attracted her when you met her.

DHV stories are good - especially if you involve a lot of emotion in them and something to make them giggle.

Best way of opening a seated set is to be sitting near them.

Kino relative to IOIs that she's giving.

If you tap your cheek for a kiss you will almost always get one.

'Shit tests' do exist (but I don't get them that often)

Using fancy routines to kiss close comes off as lame.

Opinion openers are pretty transparent to your intentions

Looks don't matter that much, it's the way you present yourself

It's useful to mentally list lots of conversational topics that girls like in case you run out of stuff to talk about

Thanks for sharing your field experience!

Just a few questions:
1.IMO DHV are lame, I believe you need to sub communicate high value. Can you elaborate on how you use DHV stories?

2. I still don't get the qualify thing. Does it mean you have to tell her why you like her? If I go direct I already qualified her right?

Hey Znak,

I think it's important to transition into DHV stories smoothly for a start (so the conversation feels like it has naturally led up to you telling the story) and I find using funny DHV stories useful because you can tell her all this cool stuff about yourself while using a funny story as a cover up. It's important not to come across as if you're bragging (boasting) though as she needs to be in the mindset that the only reason you're telling her this is because it's funny / interesting. I think it's most powerful to be subtle with the DHV spikes and let her draw her own conclusions from what limited information you give her.

Pretty much every DHV spike you give is another potential conversation thread and if she chooses to question you on that thread then you can elaborate more on your DHV spike.

I know what you mean about sub-communicating high value and that's also very strong but there's some stuff that you just can't sub-communicate which DHV stories can help out with.


To qualify her successfully you need to let her feel that she's won you over and has invested in you and that you like her for her personality rather than her looks. That's pretty much the easiest way of explaining it. So even if you do go direct you still need to qualify her

Thanks Ay-Jay!

No worries mate