Does anyone really go out and do this? I dont know anyone here to go and sarge with but I'm pretty intimidated by just hitting the bars alone. I can work on day game all I want but night game is another matter.

Yeah I used to do it all the time. In fact I preferred to do it.

It's quite simple really.

Go to the bar, get a drink and be attentive to what's going on (don't drink too much. Limit yourself to a drink or beer, then a water with lime or lemon). Observe constantly. Watch for girls that make eye contact with you, smile, then approach. Doesn't really matter what you talk about initially. As long as you remember the goal which is to either get laid or number close, etc..

If you get too much grief from a group of girls, etc.. then try to isolate one or move on to the next one.

It can be hard on the ego sometimes, especially if you're picking the wrong girls to approach due to inexperience, but it gets easier with time and practice. And try to have fun. Or at least look like you are. Sometimes you have to fake it. Wear a sport coat if you have one (over a t-shirt and jeans if fine). Women eat it up.

If you can get to know the help, bartenders, bouncers, waitresses, etc.. they can make things alot easier for you as they typically know some of the clientèle already and can sometimes point you in the right direction or put in a good word for you (it would take you literally months to acquire as much inside scoop as they have).

In many ways working alone can be easier than trying to sarge with someone that's not entirely on the ball.

Of course you could always stay home, rent a movie, and get out the old bottle of lotion and towel.

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i hate it, i was in the mall a couple weeks ago meeting this chick, and while i was waiting i felt really uncomfortable by myself, im just used to having my friends around and in places where this are alot of people with their friends, its kind of intimidating

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Yeah I understand buddy. It's intimidating to go out alone, and the best way to help that is with your first few girls you get during your day game bring them out at night. Take em to a bar with you like you would a buddy, and use her to help you meet more women. Going out alone can be liberating, but done to much says something about your game. Just choose good friends that won't cock block you, and will help you to meet women.

Thanks Starbuck, that's what I really needed to hear. Tonight's a bit too late but tomorrow I'm totally going to go out and work on something. Do you think that you might get a reputation with the barkeep if you go to the same bar picking up girls all the time.

this is ok, but heres how i do it. i think starbuck's method will work if your at a small bar where it looks natural to roll in, sit and observe, but in a club or a bar like saddle ranch its gonna lower your value. Step by step process here it is.

first you gotta walk through the door like your the shit. always greet the bouncer, smile at everyone you see that works there like you know them. and make a direct path for the bathroom. as there are normally lines for the restroom you can get warmed up just talking to people in line. (normally you would already be warm by this time talking to a wing or friends). this can also be accomplished if your waiting in line for a club, but go to clubs where you know the bouncers when your alone so you can skip the line. next after ive joked with some guys. i look for my safety set. this could be a group of 6 or 7's or it could be a older married couple, just someone that will give me their attention when i open them and are a sure bet. you want to develop alittle relationship with them so that if your games off you can always return to that safety set and you will gain social proof and not lose it.

normally after you have your safety set girls will start to eye you. this is where i agree with starbuck, eye contact is your best weapon. i cant stress the amount of times girls have grabbed my nuts or bought me drinks just because of the look i gave them when we made eye contact.

keep in mind you want to be relaxed but at the same time you have to constantly be on the move when your alone. go from set to set, i normally like to just work 2 openers that whole night, and when ive opened 10 girls on each ive perfected that opener.

another little trick is if theres more then one bartender, pick one of them to be your bartender for the night. tell them they are who you want and constantly be chatting with them when your not in a set. it looks good when bartenders give you unsual attention because normally they pretend like their listening but cant wait to move on to the next drink. so developing a relationship with the bartender is key. plus other people will think you know the bartender uping your value.

the key component of solo sarging is social proof cuz your biggest challenge will be not to look like a single horny guy looking to hook up.

own the place,

hope that helps

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Ah the solo sarge.

Lonely nights. It makes you a tough cookie ill tell you that!
Its hard. Your AA is multiplied. Your constantly fucked by not having a wing.

And its the only way i have ever sarged. Ive been unable to find a wing who is actually versed or willing to verse themselves in pu.

Once you get through the pain stage man you will be one good pick-up artist.

What doesnt kill you makes you stronger. This is that in action.

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Yep..

And you want your reputation to be a good one.

That's why if you want to continue to be successful you want to be mindful of your reputation and how you act.

If you become a negative commodity because of your behavior either inside or outside of the bar with the clientèle or the help, you'd might as well find a new place to hang out because your social value just ceased to exist. Just the way it is.

I've even seen guys that were socially awkward or just socially cautious get portrayed in less than favorable ways. So whatever you do, don't go to a bar, sit by yourself and drink without approaching some girls if they are alone. That's what it's about, and that's what you're expected to do. Best to leave the help alone unless you want to get the boot. And I should know, I've got the boot out of a couple of bars for showing a little too much of a interest in the help (I mean the management and the ownership likes to get laid too so don't hit on their women if you like being on good terms).

Another thing, bars in general aren't easy places to work. There are alot of young and inexperienced people working there and hanging out there, managing them, etc.. And sometimes they make mistakes or are just dirtbags to begin with so don't take it personally (welcome to the world). And it can adversely effect you and your rep. Take it all with a grain of salt, and know when to move on. Bars are in business to make money, not act as a dating or matchmaking service for you so they're not always user friendly. Always remember this.

In some bars and some locales, as a single patron you're judged as socially deficient the minute you walk through the door. It's just the way it is in this fear first, everybody's a stranger, greedy kind of world. Think of it as being guilty before being proven innocent. Which is usually the default position of women when they walk into a bar (they have all of their defenses up). Hard to blame them since they are most often physically vulnerable. That's why it's so rare to see a single woman in a bar. It's up to you to convince them otherwise. If you can't, you will fail simple as that. Again, don't take it personally. Learn from it and move on if necessary.

And learn to take a hint. If a girl isn't nice to you, or reciprocating don't be a nuisance or annoying, chances are she's trying to tell you something in a nice way. By persisting when it's unwelcome you maybe wrecking whatever social proof you gained up until that point.

Don't get into pissing contests with other guys over girls. It just aint worth it. Learn to be smarter than the competition, not just more of an asshole. It will come back to bite you in the ass in more ways than one. Better to go home alone.

It's a game of patience bro. And of buying expensive drinks and pissing them down the urinals. That's how bars make their money. Water and lime makes a great fake vodka and water. And allows you to keep your sense for hours at a time (tip the bartender anyway).

You want to learn the max about bars, how to work them and have access to plenty of women, get a part time job in a bar. It's a world unto it's own. And no perspective better than being on the inside and being a known commodity.

Now if you find the whole bar thing in the US to be a little much, or confusing.. Save your money, buy yourself a ticket to Mexico, Thailand or the Philippines, take along some spending cash and go bar hopping in these locales. In these locales you walk in, the girls line up against the wall or smile and look at you if they're available, the bartender or mamma san translates you pick one and mutually agree and she's yours overnight or for the weekend. It's great and besides the transportation costs relatively cheap.

It makes the whole experience in U.S. bars seem excruciating and senseless by comparison. Unless you're a drunk or something.

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HAHA funny topic. I just did this for the first time this weekend. No one was down for going out because it was crappy and I really wanted to sarge so i said what the hell and went for it. It was fun! You do need lots of inner game, and the ability and want to talk to everyone, guys, girls, bartenders, who ever. I like to talk to people in general so I had a great time.

Like posted before, open sets, move to other sets, merge sets, its all good. i would stick to places where you can talk without yelling over loud music. Switching up venues is a little easier to because once you are done at one place you can just move right on without having to converse with you wing. LOL

The Lone sarge is fun

This is some good stuff,I need to try it.
I've been out Sarging maybe once,and it is difficult. Just need more practice.

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" Watch for girls that make eye contact with you, smile, then approach."
And you told me that you had read the material.
And this "Observe constantly" is wrong as well.


To Vida:

I do sarge alone. Even when I go to places with friends, I break off and move around the room by myself. Do not wait for someone to make eye contact with you. Just walk up and talk to them ( do not approach from behind, walk in a non-direct path). Dont know openers, look in the archives. Or what I help my friends with, is just go up and say hi and talk to them. Do this for all set types.

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Double Your Dating by DD
(This will work on your inner game)

http://www.freewebs.com/xfman/
(This will work on your outer game)

Have you ever gone to San Antonio and gone sarging there?
If so what places?

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I do like to go out alone, give you some nice points like no one is prejudging you. You can approach people and you don't have your friends to somehow inhibit you. Ok, depending where you are it is dangerous, but I tell you some, I´m not the biggest bar fan ever, but I like to go eat alone some places not like MacDonald's ut we have some dirty fast foods typical for students in my city and I really enjoy going there alone, just to sit back and watch the flow. Sometimes girls make contact sometime not, I think it is somehow good if you are alone cause the girl in a way may feel more free if no one else is watching. Still yo get less social proof which is a turn down.

On the contrary.

Ever heard of a 'go signal'?

You increase your chances when you only approach women that give you a go signal or an approach signal.

This is nonverbal communication 101.

Sure you can approach every attractive women you see and try to chat her up without a go signal (which can be considered rude), but you will most likely startle her and she will react to you negatively. She has given you no permission to approach her, much less talk to her.

It's simply about maximizing the use of your time, starting out on the right foot and minimizing rejection.

Of course if you're not attractive or attentive enough to elicit or recognize 'go signals' from women you'll have to try a different approach.

Think of it this way, if the tables were turned and the women approached us, would you want every woman in the bar approaching you (including the 200 lb. uglies)? Or just the ones you signaled in a discreet way first?

And how would you respond to the 200 lb. uglies, or those you weren't interested in that approached you? Of course you'd try to discourage them. Which is just a nice of saying rejection. So, if you cold approach a woman or group and they're not nice or welcoming and you persist. You're not being clever or an accomplished pick up artist, busting through a bitch shield, etc.. you're simply being an overbearing asshole that just doesn't get it. This is the fastest way to get a bad rep in a bar or elsewhere.

There are a few exceptions of course. But the fact remains not every girl is going to want you, or respond to your advances, and not every girl is interested in wading through the countless losers in a bar that think the quickest way into a girls pants is to persist when she says no thanks. That's what the bouncers are for.

Yeah, you're getting the idea now, I hope. Pay attention. There's a method to the madness.

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Spoken like a true AFC. You do not know what you are talking about.
Stop giving poor and counterproductive advice to people on this board.

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Recommended reading list.

Double Your Dating by DD
(This will work on your inner game)

http://www.freewebs.com/xfman/
(This will work on your outer game)