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A: Is a dimwitted simpleton. This is the kind of girl that you could challenge to hop on one leg and harp like a seal in the middle of a bar and she’d go for it. God bless her. Without B, she’d forget how she got to the bar in the first place . . . and even if she did remember, she’d pretend she forgot; this is her role.

B: Had a rough childhood until about half way through her teens. After that, she thought she found some balance by learning how to antagonize with her sharp tongue but she will always carry an inferiority complex for unfairly receiving what she believes to be ‘less than desirable circumstances’ from her folks. She’s a stubborn fighter with a less than harmonic past. She won’t trust anybody . . . which is why she’s zoned in on A, the dimwitted simpleton, to use as an accessory. B chooses A because A is pretty but also ‘accessible’. Stand B directly next to D and see what happens . . . B becomes an over-smiling ogre. Stand B next to A and she looks smart and not at all dorky. (You could take a hundred pictures of these four and over 80 will look just like this. They will ALWAYS find their positions.)

B: Continued . . . Some family members have tried to tell her that she’s beautiful, pretty, etc . . . and the truth is . . .she’s not at all ugly. But she doesn’t trust her folks nor will she ever trust anybody else . . . so she hacks off her hair and chooses frumpy blue/gray granny dresses when she goes out to tell the World, “Hey, fuck you. I don’t care what you think about me.” – But the truth is . . . it hurts. That huge fucking joker smile is an attempt to hide the hurt. She’s a liar ~~~ because she needs to be. What a struggle . . .

C: Is the most comfortable of the bunch. There’s a photo op so she just squeezed right in. She’s not hugging the group with just her arm or head or body or some prop but with her whole being. This is a genuinely thoughtful and popular girl who’ll bend over backwards for her friends. There’s wealth here. . . if she was not born into money, she will eventually experience some wealth. Also . . . people will take advantage and cheat her as she’s too trusting.

D: Gets by on her looks. Obviously, she understands the benefits as well as the downsides of decent bone structure. Hey, guys hit on her all the time so that’s not her worry. She’s just confused as to why she’s often left out of the loop. Well, might as well as slide that drink forward a little and into the picture. If she can’t be a big part of the group, her drink might as well as partake in some group activities.

The target is C for fun, genuine excitement, and some self-thinking abilities and confidence to be able to ditch her friends for a bit. And her friends won’t say anything negative about her nor will they keep her from having fun. A looks like fun but B won’t let her go. B might not overtly cock block in fear she’ll look like a dick but the whole process will be a spy vs. spy pain in the ass. D won’t ditch her friends in fear they’ll label her a funny name and delete her “tag-along” title. Outwardly, she’ll just tell all that she’s ‘here to have fun with her friends.’

If I went over all the visual cues, this post would double in length so . . . The way I’d run it :

First off, I’m the one who’s taking the picture. (By the way, if you ever see girls taking photos of themselves, ALWAYS stop, give a thumb up . . . then as if you just remembered, nudge the photographer forward, “Hey! Get in the picture.” Here’s what will happen after you take a photo here:

B: You get in the photo!
A: Yeah, come on! . . .
C/D: ?

Point to yourself, “Me?” And walk over there as if you’re unsure and throw and hands up. Stand next to A but turn away with some distance.

A or B: What are you doing? Get in the photo!
You: Oh, Alright. (Pose with one arm over A and the other hand gliding back and forth A and B’s breasts as if you’re showcasing their breasts.) - Actually, many different things you can do here depending on how they respond to the 'shy guy' . . .

ABCD: (mixed reactions, all positive even if outwardly, overtly negative.)

You: What? . . . I’m showcasing your eveningwear, absolutely gorgeous ladies. . . Your breasts aren’t so bad either. Great, just great . . .

Chat, chat, chat. Figure out what they’re celebrating. “We’ll need to toast. YOU!(C) Come with . . . I’ll need the assistance of a steady-handed barmaid to bring back our drinks.

(And you don’t go back. . . See? That’s the trick.)

abcd

Target 'visually' would be D and A, but then C might be interesting, since I find that attitude and outlook can be very attractive.

You know what, id probably walk over and say to A, that I nearly wore the same thing as it appears the most colourful (no fucking way Id say that to B, as should would assume that I was taking the piss and suggesting she was manlike), then I would predominantly talk to B out of all of them, she looks to me as the mother hen. But I would assume she is the one celebrating something, promotion or birthday.

Id play it by ear, depending on their answers, I dont really use routines.

Id try match their energy level maybe a tiiiny bit higher than it, their level appears good, the night is reasonably young, it's not been worn down with disappointment and rejection and self inflection about their own lives yet.

other observations:
C would appear to me to be the most emotionally secure of the 4, she seems the most relaxed and naturally happy, id suspect her friends think of her as the most caring/kind/giving of the group, but also someone who gets messed around by blokes, if id talk to her I would ask if she is a nurse/caring career.

D is very very interesting, and I would figure also the easiest to isolate from the group during the night. She comes across as independant, single(at least singly minded), she knows she has good looks and takes care of her self, that full drink tells me she is either flirting with guys and fishing for drinks or doesnt need the others to hold her hand while she goes to the bar for a drink, id think the latter to be the more accurate.

Id probably playfully tease D, im a cheeky fecker so alot of tongue in cheek stuff, she keeps herself the most tidiest of the 4 so the others would enjoy the light teasing and probably use B as my partner in crime if possible, play it by B's reactions not D, id leave the set early on a high and move onto other groups in their vicinity.

Id wait until later for D to solo hop it to the bar again and re-engage her and start physical contact at the bar, due to fake familiarity and all that shite.

Then after I get shot down, id head home and jerk off and cry myself to sleep in the fetal postion

Ive changed my mind. I want the girl on the far left, the blonde one. She's way hotter.

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Okay since this topic is quite the number right now on the forums - I'd thought I would give it a go. However, justifying my answer - there are too many variables unaccounted for, therefore it isn't entirely my gameplan.

^Enlightening this particular motion is that I do not open groups if there is nothing to open. A specific group of girls or a set can be conveyed as "Hot" by their looks by my friends or just by a random standard of people, however, when I do not see something situational that spikes my interest, I wouldn't have a go for them. This is what I mean with the "too many variables."

IF however, I would have to set up a gameplan anyway to "seduce" or just even to address the girls I would kinda do the following - again, this is purely hypothetical and therefor not really true, it's what I WOULD do because it fits my behaviour pattern and ideas

Okay - analyzing the situation. We got 3 blondes and 1 redhead. My "opener" would be to give the redheaded girl a funny remark about the situation; for example:

Me: Hi there - so we got the 3 little blonde sisters and the redcolored beautiful miss. Tell me - did you dye your hear to be special or were you born this way?

This is just my style.. I address them with a comical remark on the fact that they differ on one point. Herefor getting the girl laughing. Now WHY? the redhead - she's not my target. Regarding the picture itself and the poses of the females, the redheaded girl is the one that is more of the motherfigure. She is clearly the center of the image and therefore handles most of the decisions. If I would take a shot at her role in the group - it would be:
However, again as I stated before this is purely hypothetical.

My target would be left blonde, I opened the group by approaching the redhead. To get myself in then I would be talking to more of the girls, make proper introductions on a polight form - however, in a form that they are not accustomed to. It can be funny, it can be purely gentlemen.. it can be a variety of introductions.

Then I would dance a bit - knowing my style it shouldn't be a problem to get them laughing. After that I would take them to my friends , depicting social value and therefor even raising my value towards my target. ONLY when I'm in the group with my friends I will be focussing mainly on my target.. the other girls will be handled by my friends - this is always the case.

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this is what i would do if i my depression went away,and had the guts to say/do anything

first,the girls.I've read only kassabi's post,so maybe he influenced me a bit,nevertheless here i go
Girl A:she is probably an airhead,normal inteligence,and the kind of girls that just wants to have fun.She is the kind that after discovering the power over boys she never stopped to use that.Her eyes aren't facing to the camera,probably to the guy making the picture.Her posture is bent as a sign of weakness,as she "obeys" the redhead.The question is,did she go for the pose like that?or did the readhed arrange her?
b:read kassabi's post.+is that a wedding ring on her hand?
c;Misterious,this is the kind of girl you think,but don't know enough about.Elegant,smart,sofisticated.Doesen't show of beauty so much because she has more to offer,wants that man would figure that out.
D:she really wants to stand out with huge earrings and accesories/She knows how to get and how to keep a man.She's the very hot and spoiled girl tipe.

My approach:Being dressed well and walking confident,i would wait for the time the dancefloor would be relatively open.I would walk slowly,looking at then confidently stop and stare at the one who looks at me.I would stop and whisper to my wing,who is behind me,waiting for her to do the same.After a fiew seconds,i would go there ignoring everything else,and i would say something like "insert funky looking TV show name here" she would say what?all the girls looking curious.are you from "X TVshow,i could swear that you are Z"no,i'm not "But you could be"She looks wierd at me,and than I explain that my friend is a director and he wants to make a movie bla bla bla.Probably at least 2 will be hooked,signaling to my wing wich one i want,he could say something like "why are you staying there (to the other)you have the skills of a movie star"and now i'm only with one girl.After that,standard game i think...
Well,don't know if it would work,but i would try it.

Kasabi, I must thank you - how much you read into the picture really highlighted how much I simply ignore; B specifically highlighted to me how much I favour looking into the WHAT rather than the WHY.

Question for you though, what makes you think she was purposefully pushing her drink forward? In my opinion she seems to be simply mirroring C's body language in an attempt to be more included in the group (as would be expected).

So im walking towards them in the club, thinking I should approach, and when I finally get close enough, I realize that I'm not genuinely attracted to any of the 4 of them at all. Therefore, I go right past them and head to the bar and down 4-5 shots to desensitize myself and give the girls an advantage (because all girls look hotter after ur drunk) because if it weren't for Roz and these shots, I probably wouldn't approach.

Then I'd look at the set for 10 seconds and see if I can get any EC from the girl on the left (cuz i think alcohol would amplify her looks enough that I'd want to approach, and also because I think she looks like she mildly has SOME down to Earth features about her, just look at the dress shes wearing, it aint your typical black one piece). If yes, I'd walk over to her while smiling n when im close enough, I'd put my hand on her lower back and whisper (or say in a louder voice depending on the volume in the venue) in her ear, I really need to borrow you for a second. Then I'd look at her friends to say, "I'm just going to borrow her for a minute, you guys can kill me if she doesnt come back within 5," and since I'm well groomed and pretty good looking, and so friendly, they'll say yes.

At this point, I'd bring her to the bar, and tell her, Im normally not this brash (what a lie), but i Thought if i didnt make an exception this time, i'd really regret it. At this point, she better give me her name. From then on, I'd create a lil comfort (maybe spend like 1 minute - 2 minutes on it) by looking for multiple commonalities, laugh about it while majorly kinoing, then spin her around, bring her close, n tell her "She's so special, and that she deserves the best no matter what happens" --> K close. GG

Just a few photos for those who believe B is a caring, mother figure . . .













Still . . . if you know the ladies . . . well, you'll know that they love those handbags.

@Kasabi - providing pictures of real mothers differs from persons acting as a motherfigur. Nevertheless, that you already have figured out, I am sure off.

So why intrueging me with these pictures?.. curious - eventhough my clear thinking is troubled by the flavours of some good beers & scotch.

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well i honestly wouldnt devise a plan, i would be having a good time, having a couple drinks, dancing etc and i would just introduce myself to the group if i caught eyes with one of them while walking by. i probably wouldnt even talk to that set in reality.

however if i had to brainstorm it. i would probably approach D seeing as how i think she is 2nd most attractive and she seems like she is having the least amount of fun/least attached to the group and looking for a better time. also she seems like she would probably be the easiest SNL, something about her screams looking for a man.

i would probably take a very sixty style approach to it, i would approach from the opposite side of the group and try and get her to turn around, blocking off the rest of the group. she seems the least attached so i would assume she would turn her back to them. i would put out my hand for a handshake, but turn it into spin to show playfulness and also calibrate. i would go with something situational, or direct since i did just spin her. (the spin shows confidence) make some small talk with something situational if i didnt use it as an opener, toss in a push pull all the while using sexual eye contact. gauge with a bit of kino, isolate, amp it up. but aside from the opener i cant say exactly what i would do since i dont have her reaction.

I love my titles; they reveal my true purpose as always. I'm relatively new to the field of social dynamics and observation. I have not made my self a student of it. However, I'll look at the photo and probably be a bit off.

The big this I noticed was the "red head" for lack of better words, for now her code name will be strawberry. Strawberry seems to be the center of the photo. She holds her drink up high, and looks like she is the "point of contact" when speaking towards the group. One of the more attractive girls, the one to the left, I'll call her Kirsten Dunst. She seems to be "the prize" the best thing men can walk away with. I notice how strawberry has Kirsten wrapped tight, like she's defending her. The shirt tells me that Kirsten might be the metropolitan type.

I notice one girl is left out of the center of the photo. She's a "Drag Along". One has her cupped raised, I'll call her Cheese. She seems to be enticing people to approach the group or something, free spirited woman, idk.

Hmm, I don't know, that's all I got to be honest with you all. My mind is going blank; I'd go over say hi to strawberry, have direct conversation with her. And to be honest I'd try picking up the Drag Along, she looks the best and least attached to the group. I know I'm supposed to be able to tell stuff from the cloths and the gestures, but I'm not great at reading body lingo.

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This is an interesting thread because a photo provides a better stage for what you'd need/want to do in a real pu setting. So far, some responses are great. Others are HORRIBLE.

Here's the point:

This is just a fun exercise to share and discuss. You're still sealed in your personal safe house so don't worry, these ladies aren't in position to pull a gun on you. Just try it out. Whether you have good game or bad game or weird game . . . nobody here cares. Just have fun with it and discuss. So the great responses are ALL THE POSTS that take unabashed, fun shots at this silly little game. Some are imaginative, some are cliche's, etc . . . At least we have some things to chat about. . .

On the other hand, many have fallen to your habitual patterns, "Well, I wouldn't game them because . . . . blah, blah, blah, the fucking blah . . . " - I can't tell you how awful this habit is, not just for PU but for everything in life. You didn't begin with these 'excuses' in mind. You began with "NO!" ... then you began stacking excuses so you feel like a human being instead of a total loser.

If you're this far off on the wrong side of the afc-pua spectrum, consider starting from scratch and starting up a journal like so many smart, progressive, and SUCCESSFUL guys are doing in the FR section. And some of you here have been living your online make-believe fantasies for a long time. It's OK, nobody knows you and nobody cares . . . just create a new account and start from zero. The moment you write the first sentence in your journal, you will be 10 levels ahead of where you are now.

First thing I do is select the target: in this case would be the blonde in the middle, holding like a plastic glass with some beer leftovers.

If the body lenguage of this set remains the same as in the picture they would seem open, make me feel more comfortable about going in.

I won`t approach my target, first Imma ignore her till she tryies to steal my attention or till she`s getting too bored of me talking to her friends leaving her speachless.

So if I choose I`d approach the blonde on my left talking over the shoulder and saying something like: You seem like you could do a better pic than that.
Blonde: How so? or something like that.
Bond: by adding me to it =) (use claw at this moment with her even thou she`s not my target).
If done with proper confidence girl would laugh and take it like a joke, wich would give me the hook to engage the other set. As far Im confident and a touchy guy, so I made my first impression.

Next girl I`m talking to is the one next to her by saying something like: your friend over here seems to be pretty funny, are you the always this way or is tonight a special night? Hi, Im Martin. Give her a hand and doing the same with all the girls, milking the intro with my target, give her a slightly attention with the hand (could be holding bit longer, maybe touhcing her with the fingers, whatever).

At that point, if the set isnt hostile Id be getting attention. After a responde from the girl about if its or inst a special night; its time to engage the blonde on the right.
Id probably ask her if you girls come to the place often, if replys always I`d say something like first time here and shit.

If by now my target havent said a word, its time to take the initiative. I might ask the same girl if her friend is always this shy and ask if I can steal her from them for a minute, Ill give her back to em in a blink of an eye.

If she says yes I`ll grab my targets hand and say: come, your friends wants you to follow me.

At this point we could be dancing, talking, or drinking. But this would be another history.