My question is this: is spitting game something that comes natural or is something everyone has to work at?

Most people need to work on it.

Just follow the 3 second rule and assume every girl you see wants to fuck you. After much reading I came to the conclusion that if you can just do that then you will be better than a lot of the PUAs out there.

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well i'm just beginning so I have a lot to learn..what's the 3 second rule?

If you see someone you even kind of want to approach you have 3 seconds to do it. I think this is mysteries most important lesson and too many puas ignore it.

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it could be possibly both? of course there are people that are solely naturals and others that pick up on the way. But i'm sure even naturals learn something new here and there and modify their game.

I know that I am more of the natural camp, I always knew that I could build comfort but I always ended up in friend zone. Convinced it was solely for this or that reason I stayed like that for most of my teenage years. As time went on I learned how to use that natural comfort women felt around me along with learning how to read them better and everything worked out just fine.

I may never be a master PUA but that isn't what i'm aiming for i'm happy that I do not have approach anxiety, i can take rejection, i can run game, get numbers so on and so forth. So I consider myself a very casual PUA

i'm the same way too, i'm very social and very outgoing..however I always fall into the "friendzone", EVERYTIME. A friend of mine told me being social is half game already, knowing what to say is the rest of it

Agreed after reading a few posts on here you will see there are many variations to game but there are a few common threads too. One of the most important things in my opinion is BE yourself do not try and memorize a million lines, do not over analyze especially in front of the girl.

Whenever I go out anywhere with my friends the ONLY priority in my mind is "i'm going out with friends to have a good time". Then i build from there, if you meet girls thats a bonus, if you number or kiss close an even better bonus. Don't stress yourself out thinking you MUST do this or MUST do that. Take small victories where you can and build slowly on that solid foundation. Don't be scared to try on lower end targets just to get confidence up.

I am guessing you don't kino right? If you don't kino, at least talk about sexual topic.

What I mean is if I do have game supposively, then why do I fall in the "friend zone" what exactly am I doing wrong? mind you, I am just starting out

. When you meet a girl make sure you have strong attraction before you start to build comfort. Comfort before Attraction = friendzone. This took me a while. Push your sexuality and back down on the mush.

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You can't forget about me, stupid. Everywhere I go ima have my own theme music.

Spitting shouldn't be part of your game. That's disgusting.





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I am also new but i feel like if you're being relegated to the friend zone so often you're not escalating enough. You have to open, build attraction, build comfort then escalate. Kino is a very good way to do this! Within the first 10 seconds of meeting a girl you should have already touched her casually. Most people say to do this in a way that she doesn't even notice.

Ok here is what i have learned about the friend zone. first off when u r sarging, remember that u control the situation. u can let her this she has control but in reality she doesnt. the friend zone is a fine line between being to sweet to a girl the other side of that line is somewhere out in assholeville. to some women being the asshole is a huge turn on, not tread softly. u can compliment a woman all day but she can take this the wrong way. a way to make this subside is to use the right negs on her. u have to esentially knock her down to your level. look for the negs topic if u r having trouble thinking of any. there r some that work and some that offend to much, u have to use trial and error to find out which is which. show her who is boss. be more assertive with your personality. try using the cocky funny method. this has NEVER led me to the friend zone. hope this helps.