Could any of you guys help me out with this project I am working on:

I am constructing a matrix of all the well-known (particularly innovative) Pick Up Gurus out there and all the Issues where there is some disagreement (any, no matter how unreasonable) among any of the gurus.

So far I have a list of 6 Issues where there is some disagreement and I have a list of 36 Pick Up gurus.

Could anyone suggest additions to either list?

Here are the two lists (issues & gurus):

Issues:
- Number of days to wait before calling a girl after getting her telephone number.
- Direct versus indirect game.
- Whether dancing at a club is a good idea or not.
- Whether to ask her lots of questions in the beginning or not.
- Whether the telephone is a good tool for seduction or not.
- Whether the use of humor is an effective seduction tool or not.

Gurus:
- Tony Clink
- Allen Reyes (Gunwich)
- Erik von Markovik (Mystery)
- Eben Pagan (David DeAngelo)
- Ross Jeffries
- Ron Louis / David Copeland
- Don Steele
- David X
- Wayne Elise (Juggler)
- Lance Mason
- Neil Strauss (Style)
- Eric Webber
- Joker
- Craig
- Johnny Shack
- Ranko Magami (Shark)
- BadBoy
- Tyler Durden
- Gambler
- Joseph Matthews (Thundercat)
- BradP
- David M.
- Sinn
- Mehow
- Vincent DiCarlo
- David Wygant
- David Shade
- Zan Perrion
- Cory Skyy
- SwinggCat
- Stephen Nash
- Sean Messenger
- Matador
- Captain Jack
- Asian Playboy
- Matt Savage


Any additional guru names and/or pick up issues of disagreement would be greatly appreciated.
Have I missed any?

An issue is whether to show her that you're interested.

I don't see JDog, but um, what's the purpose of this project?

And, how did you find a real name for David D?

I also don't think Tyler Durden is his real name.

I don't know what the purpose of this is but i think it kicks ass. Wish i had something to contribute, I'm still trying to wrap myself around MM.

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"Responsibility for our lives is something we never lose but which we often deny... You can blame whomever you wish, but you’re the one who must experience (or endure) the results." -Steve Pavlina (http://www.stevepavlina.com)

I think MM is a great basis to start from, then, after some experience, get away from the memorized openers and start using situational stuff, while still keeping the basic principles of the method.

I like to say a combination of MM and David D....issues with mystery method is that he can teach you how to pick up or kiss close a girl but he can't teach you beyond that.. david d is more about improving your self for the long run and how to be naturally good and confident with girls not as canned and pre packaged like mystery

My plan is MM, then the Game, then David D. This is going to take me over.

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"Responsibility for our lives is something we never lose but which we often deny... You can blame whomever you wish, but you’re the one who must experience (or endure) the results." -Steve Pavlina (http://www.stevepavlina.com)

You should read David D, then possibly MM. Don't bother with The Game. It will potentially only provide you with motivation. It is a good book and was very interesting reading, but it will not really do anything for your game.

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Recommended reading list.

Double Your Dating by DD
(This will work on your inner game)

http://www.freewebs.com/xfman/
(This will work on your outer game)

He should definitely learn MM and David D's C & F stuff for sure, but The Game will also help his game too. There are things in there he can use to improve his game, and there are a couple of examples of Style having a 3some with 2 girls. He tells how he did it, which is a method that the whole PU community then used to start having 3somes everywhere.

Issue: Focusing and developing Inner Game as opposed to Outer Game

How's going your project?

It's a really good idea in my opinion. Because it opens your eyes that there are different points of view.

I think it's like the truth is only one. So if David D says: direct approach and Mystery: indirect approach, one of them is right and other wrong... Correct?

well said. I study these two methods.

David D's method allows me to become a better, higher-valued person
The mystery method allows me to convey my value to others better

David D + MM = a great guy who can effectively demonstrage his value

No, not at all. Direct works better at times and indirect better at other times, and direct works better for some people and indirect better for other people. So, yes, you CAN blend the two very well.

Updated list of gurus:

Allen Reyes (Gunwich)
Asian Playboy
BadBoy
BradP
Brent
Captain Jack
Carlos Xuma
Chris Odom (Lovedrop)
Cory Skyy
Craig
David M.
David Shade
David Wygant
David X
Dimitri
Don Diebel
Don Steele
Eben Pagan (David DeAngelo)
Eric Webber
Erik von Markovik (Mystery)
Gambler
Grungie
Hypnotica
ijjjji
In10SE (Twotimer)
JD Fuentes
JDog (J-Dog)
jlaix
Johnny Shack
Johnny Soporno
Joker
Joseph Matthews (Thundercat)
Lance Mason
Maniac High
Marius Panzarella
Matador
Matt Savage
Mehow
Mr. NYC
Nathan Szilard
Neil Strauss (Style)
Nick Star
NYC
Ranko Magami (Shark)
Ray Gordon
Ron Louis / David Copeland
Ross Jeffries
Sean Messenger
Sinn
Stephen Nash
SwinggCat
Tokyo PUA
Tony Clink
Tyler Durden
Tynan (Herbal)
Vincent DiCarlo
Wayne Elise (Juggler)
Zan Perrion

Updated list of issues:

01) Number of days to wait before calling a girl after getting her telephone number.
02) Amount of time you speak with a girl at the beginning.
03) Direct versus indirect game.
04) Focus on developing inner game or outer game.
05) Ray Gordon issue (???).
06) System of rating a woman's looks (1-10 numbering system).
07) The use of humor.
08) Use of email.
09) Whether or not dancing in a club is a good idea.
10) Whether or not to show her you are interested in her in the beginning or not.
11) Whether the telephone is a good tool of seduction or not.
12) Whether to ask her a lot of questions in the beginning or not.