"The greatest enemy will hide in the last place you would ever look."



What is the greatest enemy, it is The Ego

The ego diguises it's thoughts as your thoughts, its feelings as your feelings. People hear this voice for so long they believe it to be them. It's the reason to be afraid of nothing, its the cause of the fear and the pain. The ego is what puts up a person's defenses to protect itself, its the cause of the anger, jealousy and fear.
The ego makes an attractive women scary, the cause of the fear that this woman will hurt a person's self-concept.

"The only enemy ever to exist is an eternal one"

Yes right now there is a voice in your head that tells you what to do, that is not you. it is telling you that I am playin head games with you. you believe it to be you, to be your best friend, it tells you when and what to do, and he's telling you that it doesn't even exist.
If you change the rules on what control you, you will change the rules on what you can control, how radical are you prepared to be

"The greatest con, that he ever pulled... was making you believe... that he is you"

Find your ego and take control of it, it's what is holding you back in the world of PU

Yes, I just watched Revolver

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And here we go again.

^Agree

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So true, but you can't just "shut it off", if it was that easy everyone would be doing it.

Anyway, what's this movie "Revolver" and how does it relate to the Ego? Is it worth watching?

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ha yes I wanted my own self-help thread. I figured I could throw out some more smut.

"Revolver" the movie on the other hand is a movie where its loved or hated. need to watch it quite a few times tho to get the message about the ego.

I actually wanted to get an eye popping first post with

Actually getting to some meat about the ego, I argue getting the ego under control to control a person's defensive mechanisms, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_mechanism for those who havent read about it. A major issue with people getting into PU is that many issues that have plaqued them through there life have been created by a failure to develop mature defensive mechanisms.
Realizing these mechanisms and getting that ego under control are fundamental to PU

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This is why the community is so frustrating, every time you think the community as a whole might move forward, it just gets swallowed up and goes back to square 1.

[insert PUA cliche here]

Seeing this thread makes me sad.

I have had to distance myself from one of my close friends because they have now been consumed by their own ego.
It starts of easily enough with self help books.
It ends with Jealousy, anger and fear.
A guy i have known for 10 years has now lost all his friends because of this.
It started about 3 years ago and has got worse.

He can't resist giving everybody his PEARLS of wisdom and saying how great he is.
MR POWER TRIP.
A right annoying C..T!!!

A good point made Jelly.

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Its all to easy.

I want to be a tree!

The only way to forget your ego is to get hurt bad so you literally don't care what people think. You can do this by approaching many women and getting a few bad and a few good because over time you'll realise what they do or say doesn't equate to you internally.

Unless you've actually done this and got something positive from it - this is quite a bold claim to state with no evidence.

like getting raped by your uncle, it hurts you so bad you spend the rest of your life in a state of PURE UNSTOPPABLE CONFIDENCE, you dont care when girls or guys try to make fun of you or what women think of you. Hell you dont give a fuck when your uncle comes to visit either. . .

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You're an idiot.

Getting your ego hurt has nothing to do with physical pain.

I concur with his thoughts in that the ego is a muscle you must train, every rejection it grows weaker. You will probably never get rid of it, but instead learn to live with it and not let it control you and eventually you'll see it for what it really is.... not you.

It's just thought patterns that have been implanted on you since birth, from society, the media, your mom, television, your friends, etc

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I wasnt thinking about the physical pain of it, although that wouldnt be so great either.

the bit i underlined is what i thought was silly. you dont want to get hurt, getting hurt has never helped anyone, emotionally or physically.

Most of us are here because we were hurt emotionally at some point (i dont mean to sound cliche). The point of getting rejected or whatever isnt to get hurt, its to realise you DONT get hurt and that its all in your head.

I also dont think approaching gets rid of or weakens your ego, ever met an egotistical player? Sure you take a few ego hits when gaming but people also end up being disillusioned about how good they are because they can approach (because of ego?). You learn about ego in different ways but im not knowledgable about the ego to make a true statement about the it. This last paragraph is just what my grasp so far is.

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Now there's a much better response... I take back the idiot part, you're pretty smart.

You have some valid points, especially the it's all in your head part. However the ego wants approval from other people (and yourself). Getting disapproval gives it a bad feeling. ("She told me I suck, man it's true.. I suck"). To bypass this you have to approve of yourself (the ego) over what anyone else says about you. (You know, all the "love yourself first and then you can truly love other people" shit, is actually true).

This is why when people first approach and totally fuck it up, they're still in a good state. "She told me I'm a creep, but fuck her, I did what I've feared doing for so long... I finally approached! I'm awesome!" ---> Approval of the self.

p.s. Getting hurt can sometimes be a good thing though... when the pain becomes unbearable, only then will we be forced to make a change. (Like you said, most of us were hurt emotionally and that drove us to this community to improve ourselves). Most normal people that get laid sometimes are content... (not extremely happy... it could be better), but they're not forced to make a change through pain. Us on the other hand couldn't bare it no more... well I couldn't anyway, can't speak for you.

p.s.s. I've never actually met anyone that's disillusioned about how good they are because they can approach... I have however met people that are disillusioned about how good they are because they can get numbers/laid.

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