Treat it as a new start.

For relationships you really want to make sure that you get a sexual/romantic element going between the two of you and focus on bonding.


Some ideas.
Bouncing from venue to venue.
Flirting, physical compliments.
Doing new things together.
Keeping pro-lounged eye contact in conversation.
Walking, standing and sitting in proximity to one another.
Discussing topics with emotional content.

so my game is real shitty right now so would anyone have pointers on how to seduce a female friend when she comes over tomorrow night. weve been friends for about 6 months. so could anyone try to walk me through the night and give pointers on possibly sleeping with her that night

ive got 2 questions, sorry if either have been asked but its hard to skim through 13 pages of text.

1. should i game women that im not going to fully pursue just to keep my game up to speed? im a pretty good looking guy and i have high standards as to which girls i actually want, but i see very few of those quality women during the day. and my job doesnt exactly allow me to go clubbing besides on weekends. should i lead on women that i dont actually intend to sleep with to learn more/keep up my skills?

2. aside from the mall are there really any places you can practice day game that are out of your normal run around the city? i know coffee shops, bookstores, clothing stores, movies all could potentially have beautiful women in them. however i cant just patrol these places unless i have some intention of buying coffee or seeing a movie. and in my day to day routine i rarely see women i would consider valuable.

Just posted this in a thread but it would be nice to get your opinion on this...


I've got a dilema I've not dealt with before so would like some advices on how to deal with this.

Basically been in a relationship with my current g/f for about a year. I can't fault her personality but I will admit I have gone off having sex with her and my eye keeps roaming.

At this moment in time I do not want to split up with her because although I've gone off sex with we get on so very well in most other areas.

Anyway got chatting to a really cute sales girl in the shopping mall recently and I've got her number and we are going to arrange meeting up for a drink.

The big question is what, if anything, do I tell her about my g/f?

Do I play the honesty game and admit I have a g/f but am unhappy in certain areas, do I pretend to be single and see how it goes or do I up her interest in a vary gamey way by admitting I have a g/f so would just like to be friends for the moment.

Also I'm in my late 30's but look lots younger and this girl must be in her early 20's so should I play my age down a bit?

I'm aware I maybe about to cheat on my g/f and I already feel bad for that but I know that given the chance it's going to happen anyway.

Ok, 16 year old her, currently at norwegian high school.

I met this girl in the beginning of this semester, but I never really talked to her other than online so nothing really happend. Because I'm quite shy and a period of drama with my ex led to a 'give-a-fuck'-attitude to the whole girl/situation.

Now I'd like to pick up the thread again, but since I never made a move on her I'm uncertain if she still concider me interesting.

And should I just open her up with a "hi" or something?

Hi all,

well, I'm just gonna get into it, not sure if this is the right thread or not, but what the hell.

So..... I'm not too bad with women (at the age of 32 I shouldn't be) but I'm looking to raise my game.

Read 'the game' and implemented a few techniques here and there and saw amazing results in such a short space of time. But here's the thing:

So, I'm just back from the bar. Met a Russian girl I had met once before.

Not so interested in her but wanted to try a few things. She had already given me a few IOI's so figured I'd give it a go.

So, I did the 'think of a number between 1 - 10, then told her the number she was thinking of was seven, she was amazed....all good.....

Then did 'the cube' on her, and she was also amazed!

Then I did a little psychology test that involves drawing that I learnt from my ex, a psychology student, and I then described her personality to her, after her exact words were "I feel naked right now, everything you said was true!".

She even cried right there in front of me!

So, that's all good, then she goes to the john. But she doesn't come back to me. She then ends up talking to another guy, good hair, taller and so on. She doesn't come back. Even later she sits between me and the other guy and starts talking to him.... I don't wanna feel like a knob so I go dancing with another girl.

In anycase... it's done and I head off to another bar.


My question is: Where did I go wrong????

Dude, you're in your thirties not forties. Don't play down the age. Women/girls love the older guys, don't be apologetic for something that is actually an advantage for her. I'm sure she's tired of young guys who have little life experience. That's an advantage, not disadvantage.

I used to have a friend who was all over the place where women were concerned, he had a long tern gf, but everytime he wanted to 'play away' he simply told the girl he was on a date with that him and his gf were going through a 'rough patch'.

Somehow, it would ignite her competitive urge and she (whoever she happened to be that night) would then try to please him so she could get him.

Invariably he would end up banging her.... the next day or so he would say him and his girl had worked things out.

If you're gonna' do it just do, don't moralize about it. Bad/wrong... who knows..... who cares. Why wouldn't you choose a girl who might be better for you? Age means nothing. Happiness means everything.

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...... that's what you wanted to hear right? I mean really.... that's what you wanted to hear isn't it. Next time you can just tell yourself.

No offence dude, but 'hi' is weak.

If you said hi to me I'd be like 'yeah, right' and I'm not even a girl. Why don't you bitch about the canteen food or something and then just do a walk off like you don't give a fuck.

Then next time you can borrow her pen or something then don't bother to give it back. Then approach her and just start shooting the shit....don't mention the pen. Don't ever mention the pen. If she mentions it just say you thought she was giving it to you as a gift to you and then change the subject.

She'll think your a dick, but be intrigued.

What do you look like????

hey ho,

I didn't realize this was a thread for the guys at the beginning to answer. Sorry bout that.

I be new, so having difficulty navigating around here.

I've looked over some of the openers and stuff in this forum and thought I might aswell just shoot in with a "High, what are you doing?" or something like that. I know we share some political opinions that has been discussed in the classes that I can bring up.

I know I'm good looking, I hear that from time to time. No Brad Pitt, but above average looking atleast

The reason I'm asking is because it's been quite cold between us for some time and I wonder if it would work to pick up the thread again.

1)I think this is an interesting question but more to show that there shouldn't be a massive difference between gaming you and actual you (work situations can be a little different).
For me, I am never NOT being flirty,fun and charming. A prime example of this is the other night hanging out with 3 women. Only one of them was my target, but I was being flirty with all 3 - making innuendos, making them laugh, blush and all that. The only difference I find between women I would want sexual interactions with and those I don't is the sexual side. I don't have a "friendly" me and a "charming" me, there is just me. Blur the lines
However, I wouldn't suggest leading them on. There is a fine line between being flirty and making it seem your intentions are to sleep with them; the latter being a bit of an asshole move in my opinion.

2) Firstly, what do you consider valuable? I mean, honestly if your walking around and don't see ONE woman who you think MIGHT be cool your standards are way to high or you live in a deserted area! I was in town for about an hour and a half today just getting some stuff and must have seen a good 10 women who were over a 8/10 in the looks department; I wouldn't mark any of them as being valuable or not though, some were probably weird or bitchy and maybe a few I would have got on with. Don't shoot everyone down just from what you see.

Now as for where to meet them, why not a coffee shop where you are buying a drink? I get a cup of tea nearly every day, go out for lunch or something a few times a week etc. Just turn and talk to the hot girl at the table next to yours, or while you are getting the milk or in the queue. The point I always find with day game is its great to just keep a look out for opportunities rather than going to look for them. Keep your eyes open for women you find attractive, maybe you will bump into them while you are buying some paper and pens or something - just say hi when she is in the shop with you.

Stop being a dick. Tell your GF things aren't working for you and try and sort it out with her OR tell her you want to be in a non-exclusive relationship.

As for the new girl, personally bringing up your current GF will probably not go down well short and especially long term. Say you got together, can you imagine the trust issues she would have if you cheated on her with your ex?

To me, it seems like you want to break up with your GF because your not sexually interested in her any more and turn that to friends. BUT you are too worried you wont make something work with a new person and are stringing along your GF as the occasional bad shag is better than non at all.
Work out what you want, then go about getting it.

"WOW, I can't believe its been so long since I spoke to you! I have been having a such a crazy time lately, so much fun. What about you, still cool I hope?"

This time, make a move and don't talk too much online without face to face.

You became a dancing monkey. You showed her some cool tricks but what reason did she have to come back to you?

To me, it seems like she didn't invest anything into you and you invested a lot into her and therefore she had no incentive to return.
When talking to women don't try and set up a relationship where you do something and she watches - it shouldn't be a presenter and audience relationship. Make HER work for the conversation, make HER invest all while keeping her interested as well. Add in sexual escalation and you are sorted.

Ahhhh, 'dancing monkey'...I'm good at that part.

Actually in the beginning I was completely disinterested in her and she did all the work, it was then I decided to try a few things.

It was after that I lost it. I see what you're saying. I'm guessing I should have strung out the three things I did with combinations of other things and some 'push - pull' and the sexual escalation.

Thanks a lot, I'll give it a whirl next time.