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Reading some recent threads reminded me of a guest Howard Stern had on his radio show many years ago. I don't recall the guest's real name but his early morning talk radio title was, "The Greatest Pimp of All Time." - Literally. The guy was famous in NYC for being a successful pimp.

So a guy called in . . . he sounded like an educated fellow. His question was, "Hey, I really want to be just like you. I want to be a pimp! Do you have any pointers?"

The rest of the conversation went something like this:

Greatest Pimp: Sure, sure . . . do you have a girlfriend?
Smart Guy: Ehm, yes.
Greatest Pimp: That's good . . . Well, pimp her ass out. You can start with your friends. . . People you know.
Smart Guy: (Silence)
Howard Stern: You still there?
Smart Guy: I can't do that.
Greatest Pimp: You can't be a pimp then. You want to be a pimp or you don't want to be a pimp? Which is it?

The core subject of this forum is 'social interaction with the opposite sex'. If you are interested in this topic, then get socializing with the opposite sex. And really . . . nobody here cares about you. For the most part, this is an anonymous forum. If you want to be an asshole, go ahead and 'get being an asshole'. If you want to play the delusional alpha-man role while living at home and having momma cook you dinner and doing your laundry, then 'get playing the delusional alpha role'. - Hey, at least this is funny.

But what's the deal with you guys who actually announce, "I WANT XYZ", then refuse to follow the simple steps to "get XYZ-ing."?? What is that? Really? How do you manage to live beyond today? Do you tell yourself you want to shit and then instead of shitting, hold it in? Do you tell yourself you want to eat but refuse to pick up the fork? Hey, I realize that lifting the fork ain't easy. But if you want to eat, it's the price you pay.

Lifting up a phone to slide your finger over the screen ain't easy either. I realize this. But this is the price you're going to pay if you want a date. Waving your hand and saying hello; this ain't easy either. But hey, if you want to meet somebody, You're going to have to muster up some energy to do it. And yes, some suffer from speech impediments and some of you do not have right arms. Get creative . . . try your left hand . . . try writing 'hello' on a post-it and sticking it to your forehead. You can do it! . . . but if you can't, why are you wasting everybody's time here with all of your bullshit? - That's the point.


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basically the point of this thread is set a goal, works toward it. Cut the irrelevant BS. A.K.A. get your ass out of the couch.

I agree.

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basically the point of this thread is set a goal, works toward it. Cut the irrelevant BS. A.K.A. get your ass out of the couch.

I agree.

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This is beyond the scope of my initial post. Hey, lots of people are allergic to goal setting + work. All I'm asking is if you want to eat pizza, go to a pizza shop instead of staying at home. If you want a date, you're going to have to call. If you want to chat, you're going to have to open your mouth. Let's just start off with these basic things . . .


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I came across this somewhere before,

It was something in the lines of: 'People don't accept easy solutions'

It seems that they just write off an easy solution as 'nah that can't be true, it's too easy'


There has to be a research on this somewhere.


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Could be:

1. Self sabotage. Just a deep inner need to suck, suck, and continue to suck.

2. F'd up education. Kids in 3rd World countries grow up learning that in order to breathe, eat, and live, there's some work involved. You don't LOVE washing vegetables but hey, you're a 6 year old kid and this is what you do to help out around the house prior to dinner.

On the other hand, too many kids mistake the privilege of various freedoms to mean that they only do what they feel like doing at that moment. "No . .. I'm not feeling it. I can't take out the garbage today. No . . .I'm not feeling it. I probably shouldn't go to class today. No . .. I'm not feeling it. I won't ask her out today."

Hey, if your PU intuitions ROCKED, wouldn't you already be WINNING?(I'm going to use this term for its comedic effect)

F what you feel or don't feel. If you don't want your house to stink like garbage, you just tie that bag up and take it out. If you want to graduate, you go to class. If you want a date? . . . hmm . . .

For the gross misuse of the topic, the inner-game topic should be tossed out of this forum. Oh . . . and that 'natural game' topic as well. Both topics are sources for low level pick up comedy.


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These type of people on this forum annoy me too - I swear common sense levels have dropped drastically since I joined this forum.

Some people need to realise that to change something in their life they need to man up, or at least take control of the circumstances they are given.


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F'd up education. Kids in 3rd World countries grow up learning that in order to breathe, eat, and live, there's some work involved. You don't LOVE washing vegetables but hey, you're a 6 year old kid and this is what you do to help out around the house prior to dinner.

On the other hand, too many kids mistake the privilege of various freedoms to mean that they only do what they feel like doing at that moment. "No . .. I'm not feeling it. I can't take out the garbage today. No . . .I'm not feeling it. I probably shouldn't go to class today. No . .. I'm not feeling it. I won't ask her out today."

You compare those two things and what do you think is the main factor, for some people to sucess and others to fail? MOTIVATION, while the first kid'll have to wash his vegetable in order to eat and consequently to survive. The other'll say ''No . .. I'm not feeling it. I won't ask her out today.'' and choose an alternative (went if front of the computer jerking off).
If you know what your goal is, you know where to go to achieve it and you have motivation (persistance) to do it, you'll achieve your goal, whether it is in 10 days or in 10 years, but you'll achieve it.

You told it right when you said:
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Hey, if your PU intuitions ROCKED, wouldn't you already be WINNING?(I'm going to use this term for its comedic effect)

F what you feel or don't feel. If you don't want your house to stink like garbage, you just tie that bag up and take it out. If you want to graduate, you go to class. If you want a date? . . . hmm . . .
Life isn't easy all the time, it never will be, but these are the times, that make you a winner or a looser.
LD wrote Cassanova's great quote, which sais:
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"Man is free; yet we must not suppose that he is at liberty to do everything he pleases, for he becomes a slave the moment he allows his actions to be ruled by passion. "
So if you own your freedom it is great, in that I mean, you control yourself to a certain point, where you are "at liberty to do anything" to achieve your goal, but as soon as you stop controling yourself and your desires are greater than your internal values and internal code then you're fucked, in other words, when that happens your freedom owns you.

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For the gross misuse of the topic, the inner-game topic should be tossed out of this forum. Oh . . . and that 'natural game' topic as well. Both topics are sources for low level pick up comedy.
I don't agree with that. Those topics can be great, if you can filter the stuff that can really help you and apply to it (different stuff helps different people, so you choose)... and oh for the stuff that is complete shit (the ones, that aren't really useful to anyone) well you read it and you can see what to avoid and what not to do.

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good post, i laughed at the holding in your shit part.


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Reading some recent threads reminded me of a guest Howard Stern had on his radio show many years ago. I don't recall the guest's real name but his early morning talk radio title was, "The Greatest Pimp of All Time." - Literally. The guy was famous in NYC for being a successful pimp.

So a guy called in . . . he sounded like an educated fellow. His question was, "Hey, I really want to be just like you. I want to be a pimp! Do you have any pointers?"

The rest of the conversation went something like this:

Greatest Pimp: Sure, sure . . . do you have a girlfriend?
Smart Guy: Ehm, yes.
Greatest Pimp: That's good . . . Well, pimp her ass out. You can start with your friends. . . People you know.
Smart Guy: (Silence)
Howard Stern: You still there?
Smart Guy: I can't do that.
Greatest Pimp: You can't be a pimp then. You want to be a pimp or you don't want to be a pimp? Which is it?

The core subject of this forum is 'social interaction with the opposite sex'. If you are interested in this topic, then get socializing with the opposite sex. And really . . . nobody here cares about you. For the most part, this is an anonymous forum. If you want to be an asshole, go ahead and 'get being an asshole'. If you want to play the delusional alpha-man role while living at home and having momma cook you dinner and doing your laundry, then 'get playing the delusional alpha role'. - Hey, at least this is funny.

But what's the deal with you guys who actually announce, "I WANT XYZ", then refuse to follow the simple steps to "get XYZ-ing."?? What is that? Really? How do you manage to live beyond today? Do you tell yourself you want to shit and then instead of shitting, hold it in? Do you tell yourself you want to eat but refuse to pick up the fork? Hey, I realize that lifting the fork ain't easy. But if you want to eat, it's the price you pay.

Lifting up a phone to slide your finger over the screen ain't easy either. I realize this. But this is the price you're going to pay if you want a date. Waving your hand and saying hello; this ain't easy either. But hey, if you want to meet somebody, You're going to have to muster up some energy to do it. And yes, some suffer from speech impediments and some of you do not have right arms. Get creative . . . try your left hand . . . try writing 'hello' on a post-it and sticking it to your forehead. You can do it! . . . but if you can't, why are you wasting everybody's time here with all of your bullshit? - That's the point.
The phone thing... hardest thing ever! I finally did it... Now I feel like I can do anything!!! BEAST!


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You compare those two things and what do you think is the main factor, for some people to sucess and others to fail? MOTIVATION..
Again, this is beyond the scope of the initial post. Nobody needs to MOTIVATE themselves to tap a touch screen on a smart phone to make a call. To tap or not tap is a DECISION. Many simply choose to look, feel, and act like idiots by DECIDING to do the OPPOSITE of what they think of as desirable ends.
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if you can filter the stuff that can really help you and apply to it (different stuff helps different people, so you choose)... and oh for the stuff that is complete shit (the ones, that aren't really useful to anyone) well you read it and you can see what to avoid and what not to do.
Hmm. . . no, if you filter shit, you end up with a smoother consistency shit. That inner game/natural game section is fucking full of shit. Go ahead and point me to ONE thread in the inner game or the natural game that has ANYTHING to do with 'inner game' or 'natural game'. . . .ZERO.

In this forum, all that crap is a WAY OUT and an EXCUSE for most to do NOTHING.

"Durh, hurh, hurh . . . I'm working on my inner game. . . "????

"Durh, hurh, hurh . . . I'm working on my natural read-a-body language + amog + alpha game + wave hello to the next 5 people I see like the retard of the village for now . . ."???

For a website titled, "PICK UP ARTIST FORUM", ^this is embarrassing,.


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You compare those two things and what do you think is the main factor, for some people to sucess and others to fail? MOTIVATION..
Again, this is beyond the scope of the initial post. Nobody needs to MOTIVATE themselves to tap a touch screen on a smart phone to make a call. To tap or not tap is a DECISION. Many simply choose to look, feel, and act like idiots by DECIDING to do the OPPOSITE of what they think of as desirable ends.
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if you can filter the stuff that can really help you and apply to it (different stuff helps different people, so you choose)... and oh for the stuff that is complete shit (the ones, that aren't really useful to anyone) well you read it and you can see what to avoid and what not to do.
Hmm. . . no, if you filter shit, you end up with a smoother consistency shit. That inner game/natural game section is fucking full of shit. Go ahead and point me to ONE thread in the inner game or the natural game that has ANYTHING to do with 'inner game' or 'natural game'. . . .ZERO.

In this forum, all that crap is a WAY OUT and an EXCUSE for most to do NOTHING.

"Durh, hurh, hurh . . . I'm working on my inner game. . . "????

"Durh, hurh, hurh . . . I'm working on my natural read-a-body language + amog + alpha game + wave hello to the next 5 people I see like the retard of the village for now . . ."???

For a website titled, "PICK UP ARTIST FORUM", ^this is embarrassing,.
COTDAMN! Kasabi's going ham on these junkies!! Could you please provide your view of "natural/inner game" stuff? For example, if I"m at a sandwich shop, I'd open a girl sandwich related... not "Hi. How are you. I'm confident enough to introduce myself to you, in the day time." Do I got this down, or am I mentally masturbating myself???


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You compare those two things and what do you think is the main factor, for some people to sucess and others to fail? MOTIVATION..
Again, this is beyond the scope of the initial post. Nobody needs to MOTIVATE themselves to tap a touch screen on a smart phone to make a call. To tap or not tap is a DECISION. Many simply choose to look, feel, and act like idiots by DECIDING to do the OPPOSITE of what they think of as desirable ends.
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if you can filter the stuff that can really help you and apply to it (different stuff helps different people, so you choose)... and oh for the stuff that is complete shit (the ones, that aren't really useful to anyone) well you read it and you can see what to avoid and what not to do.
Hmm. . . no, if you filter shit, you end up with a smoother consistency shit. That inner game/natural game section is fucking full of shit. Go ahead and point me to ONE thread in the inner game or the natural game that has ANYTHING to do with 'inner game' or 'natural game'. . . .ZERO.

In this forum, all that crap is a WAY OUT and an EXCUSE for most to do NOTHING.

"Durh, hurh, hurh . . . I'm working on my inner game. . . "????

"Durh, hurh, hurh . . . I'm working on my natural read-a-body language + amog + alpha game + wave hello to the next 5 people I see like the retard of the village for now . . ."???

For a website titled, "PICK UP ARTIST FORUM", ^this is embarrassing,.
hehe..interesting one


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Hmm. . . no, if you filter shit, you end up with a smoother consistency shit. That inner game/natural game section is fucking full of shit. Go ahead and point me to ONE thread in the inner game or the natural game that has ANYTHING to do with 'inner game' or 'natural game'. . . .ZERO.

In this forum, all that crap is a WAY OUT and an EXCUSE for most to do NOTHING.

"Durh, hurh, hurh . . . I'm working on my inner game. . . "????

"Durh, hurh, hurh . . . I'm working on my natural read-a-body language + amog + alpha game + wave hello to the next 5 people I see like the retard of the village for now . . ."???

For a website titled, "PICK UP ARTIST FORUM", ^this is embarrassing,.
Dude you're missing the point, if the title of the subforum is inner/natural/or something else game (and given the thought that 80% or more of the people on this forum are beginners at game ), of course there'll be a lot of crap written, if you take a closer look at those two subforums you'll see a bunch of question ''How do I do this/Need help/I'm not happy/How do I transform myself/My hair's on fire:)...'' But every once in a while you might find something useful, that someone else might see as useless.
Don't get me wrong, you're on this forum for more than 2 years and if someone told you to ''wave hello to the next 5 people I see like the retard of the village for now'' you would probably said to him ''get a life'', but for someone, who has no social skills, who has troubles socializing and can't even say hello to starbucks assistant when he goes for a cup of coffe, some of that stuff might be golden.
You also probably did that in your AFC days (or not, I don't know where are you comming from socialy speaking) but the point is, like I said before if you know, how to filter useful from useless and adapt that to your own personality/game/experiences you can learn a lot and that doesn't just apply for game it also applies for life in general ;)

P.S. It is really good, that when someone asks a question on this forum, other people are trying to help him, by answering, that is also ONE of the ways how to get beyond your sticking points.
So if helping other people is embarrassing for PICK UP ARTIST FORUM (which's orginal purpose was/is to share advices, techniques and arcticles on how to get better with women) then they should name it NEWBIE FORUM.

Or am I wrong ?
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Hmm. . . no, if you filter shit, you end up with a smoother consistency shit. That inner game/natural game section is fucking full of shit. Go ahead and point me to ONE thread in the inner game or the natural game that has ANYTHING to do with 'inner game' or 'natural game'. . . .ZERO.

In this forum, all that crap is a WAY OUT and an EXCUSE for most to do NOTHING.

"Durh, hurh, hurh . . . I'm working on my inner game. . . "????

"Durh, hurh, hurh . . . I'm working on my natural read-a-body language + amog + alpha game + wave hello to the next 5 people I see like the retard of the village for now . . ."???

For a website titled, "PICK UP ARTIST FORUM", ^this is embarrassing,.
Don't get me wrong, you're on this forum for more than 2 years and if someone told you to ''wave hello to the next 5 people I see like the retard of the village for now'' you would probably said to him ''get a life'', but for someone, who has no social skills, who has troubles socializing and can't even say hello to starbucks assistant when he goes for a cup of coffe, some of that stuff might be golden.
That'd be the day. Waving to others increasing your social abilities....

For someone that's a social retard and thus on the lowest 'social ladder' his best bet would be for him to talk to others only slightly above him on that 'social ladder'. Goths and geeks for instance are more likely to accept anyone into their group of friends that's being kind to them.

This would do more for a social retard than waving at grannies. And hey, those sub-cultures have females in them too.


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That'd be the day. Waving to others increasing your social abilities....

For someone that's a social retard and thus on the lowest 'social ladder' his best bet would be for him to talk to others only slightly above him on that 'social ladder'. Goths and geeks for instance are more likely to accept anyone into their group of friends that's being kind to them.

This would do more for a social retard than waving at grannies. And hey, those sub-cultures have females in them too.
strongly disagree.

This would only amplify the "Out of my league" BS in these peoples' heads.

"Yes I can"- is a better mindset, and starting with waiving at grannies, might be part of it.

You aren't born with social skills, you learn them and its better later than never.

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