hi guys, I'm a 20 year old guy with 0 game. So just now I was at a party, and I had a friend with me (with little game, a little bit better than I am) and we were trying to find a specific 2 girl not moving set to open. Well, the thing is, there was none of it! The sets were always 4 to 6 girls mixed with men (which were probably approaching the girls). Also, the place was so crowded it wasn't easy even to move there.
So, I got two questions:
1) Which set is harder, a bigger set with men, or a 2 girl set? From my point of view (remember, I'm new at it) handling two girls is was easier than more, espeacially because I had a friend with me.
2) Is it 'profitable' to open a moving set at a party? If two girls passes by me, what about stopping them to talk?

This was my first day in the field and it was no good. I got zero approachs and then my self-esteem got low and the party was dead for me.

Thanks in advance.

I like the big sets. There is so much you can do when there is a guy in the set. If it's six girls and 2 guys all you have to do is get one of the guys to say something like

"I like this guy" "that's one funny mother fucker" "your crazy, man"

And you are probably gonna get some from one of his friends.

I think 2 sets are hard because if you take the gaming the obstacle root a lot of times the target will back off for her friend. Also, if you game the target the obstacle gets bored and pulls your target.

MY FAVORITE SET
2 girls 1 guy

You can help the guy get the girl you don't want and the other girl is conveniently left with you. love it.

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Ok wow, u really are a newbie. But there's nothing wrong with that, we all start somewhere.
Ok, so first of all, those are exactly the types of sets you are going to run into at parties. Parties are full of mixed sets. Most of the guys in those mixed sets know the girls. This is even kind of true of mixed sets at bars/clubs. Alot of the time when you see mixed sets at bars and clubs, they all know each other, the guys usually didn't approach those girls just then. Sometimes they are just guys who randomly walked up and started to talking to the girls, and with field experience, you will be able to tell just from body language and stuff like that whether or not they're just random guys. If they ARE just random guys, it's REALLY easy to blow out the guys and start talking to the girls. (Most guys have no game, so all you have to do is not pay them any attention, and make the girl laugh like once, and they'll usually walk away). But I digress...

Here are the answers to your two questions:
1. Yes it's easier to talk to a 2 set of girls than to talk to a big mixed set. With that said, it's a little harder to get laid from a 2 set, because you can't really isolate a girl from her friend unless you have a wing. But, for right now while you're still new, that doesn't matter too much. It's fine if you mainly stick to all girl sets while you're starting out. You can do all girl 2 sets, all girl 3 sets and even all girl 4 and 5 sets. But, you are going to have a hard time finding sets if you only stick to 2 sets. You can't just wait for the perfect set.

2. As far as moving sets at a bar or party go, it's alot better to talk to girls when they're standing or seated still in one place. If they're walking by, you can just say hi or hold up your hand for her to high five you. Sometimes they'll stop and talk to you. Alot of times they won't. But even if they don't stop and talk to you, its perfectly fine, because you can just open them in a minute or two when they're standing still and since you already had a split second interaction with them earlier, they'll open up alot easier.

And Jits is definitely right about the fact that if you're talking to a mixed set where the guys DO know the girls, you just have to get a little bit of acceptance from the guys and YOUR IN! Usually though, you don't even need them to think you're that awesome or that cool (it helps but its not neccessary). You just simply need the obstacles (girls and guys included) to think you're a nice guy, so they won't cockblock. Its even fine if they think your kinda lame, as long as they think you're not an asshole, that's all you need for them to NOT cockblock. (Her friends can think ur just a nice guy and you can still get attraction from the girl your interested in, its all good).

Make sense?

I realize now that I was too strict in my choice at approaching 2 girls set only. Also, even though I'm completely newbie at it I just find myself attracted to beautiful girls, like 8 or higher. Some guys like to random kiss ugly chicks, that's not my case.

Yeah Steve, as you said I'm really a newbie. I wasn't raised to be a social guy, I had depression for more than 1 year a few time ago but now it's over. I now accept (but don't like!) how I am and I realize that I want to change and the sonner the change takes place, the better.

So, next party I expect to broaden my sets choice, even ugly girls only, just for the openings to happen and to help reduce the AA I still feel.

I'll start a journal as soon as I get my first approach! I hope to have by next week.

Thank you guys!

Cheers.

ok get the book called "the game" by mystery its on amazon.com and watch videos of the mystery method on youtube....
then when your at a party find you a wall in the middle of everyone then lean against it with your drink TO YOUR SIDE memorize 5 openers when a girl walks by say "HEY YOU WITH THE FACE" one will turn around then say "YA YOU" then motion for her to come over there then throw opener if she gives you a wierd look or hesitates say "WOMAN I KNOW YOU AINT COCKIN NO ATTITUDE" the entire time your smiling(9 times out of 10 she will come)... merorize your negs and dhv stories talk to her friend not her... because she hasnt earned your attention yet... when she gets bored say "hey parties over here" or if she buts in the conversation say "geez where is her off switch you can dress her up but cant take her anywhere"... make sure you kino... and that should be a easy way to open sets on your first night... post with what happend and then i can give you some more advanced stuff... to be more prepared read the book some and watch alot of those youtube videos they are really good learning tools

cspears, please don't give advice like that. Reading the game is not the best thing for him to do right now as a newbie. The Game gives a really unrealistic view on what it takes most guys to get good at pick-up and the book is kind of outdated. Its a fun read and its kind of inspirational, but it is NOT the best thing to read for real advice on HOW to learn pick-up.
He doesn't need to memorize 5 openers, that will just fuck with his head even more. Memorizing 2 or 3 openers is plenty for a newbie. Right now, characterdingo just needs to get comfortable opening sets and holding a conversation for a few minutes. He doesn't need anything extra and he doesn't need to put any more pressure on himself than is necessary for right now.

I could go on a rant right now on how "The Game" probably does more harm than good to guys trying to learn pick-up and how understanding how the learning process works will help to prevent a lot of stress and a lot of turning your wheels for years with little or no progress and how "The Game" is very responsible for giving guys an UNrealistic, almost movie-like view in the form of a book on the whole learning process and the steps that people should ACTUALLY take to progress forward, but I'll refrain

Ps The game was Writen by Style

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