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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:21 pm 
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I'll give you guys all the background on the relationship to help. I met this girl threw online gaming prob. a month ago. Hang out/ spend the night with her generally 3-4 days a week and have obviously f-closed several times. It's very weird because normally I'm in game mode all the time on all the girls, but I decided for a change to make everything direct with this one based on her personality. I did this just because we both talked about how we don't play games period. I know it sounds weird or like 1-itis but I have dated tons of girls and really have not met a person as direct and honest; and I can say it's awesome cause it just cuts threw all the BS. We have been dating exclusively for about a week. This girl is extremely attracted to me, I would say in love but she doesn't want to say it, she just says she hearts me lol. All the time she says how she feels so special and lucky to be with me, compliments me on my smile and eyes, stars at me for hours, tells all her friends about me and introduces me, also to her father as of lately. Usually I just mirror her behavior so if she says she misses me i say i miss her back etc, I don't play hard to get just say how i feel, to build more and more of a emotional connection. I don't try to be CF or bust on her too much cause we are in a relationship. She isn't close with her family at all, so basically her immediate family is her close friends. She has lived with 4 guy friends before and never hooked up with them shes says, and tells me how she's excited for me to meet her roommate and we will get along great. Before I met her she was planning on moving to Chicago because she gets lonely living by herself and can't have any pets, plus rent is cheap in a superb condo with one of her best guy friends. (she just moved in this weekend) I obviously this early on have to roll with it and not show and jealousy which would be a DLV. She asked me how I felt and obviously I acted alpha and acted like I didn't care, whatever HB10's have tons of guys friends, like i have girlfriends. Here's the thing, when I hang out with her roommate and her she kisses me in front of him etc., which is good. He's divorced, and looking for a new women in his life, makes good coin, and is good looking for the record. I am extremely confident- however, I can't help but notice how shes always talking about him, or how their going to a concert, and takes tons of pictures with him, where they are close in them, or silly. Def. more pictures then she takes with me, and even when were all together flirts in a joking manner all the time like that's what she said. When I hang out with them they are always teasing each other/joking around uncontrollably and most importantly touching each other all the time. Weather its rubbing the shoulder, touching the stomach, body slamming each other on their beds it's weird to me and from my experience shows huge red flags. Touching to me means EVERYTHING, however she could just be a touchy feely girl with her guy friends for all i know. Coming from a PUA background this means they are most certainly attracted to each other, I don't see any other exclamation. He's also the type of guy that is CF on all her pictures/ comments etc, and fun, plus they share a lot in common. I know this could just be my inner game, but I really can't fathom a understanding of this situation. She acts like this is how she acts with all her really close guy friends that are or were her roommates, she says its different cause she doesn't think of him in any sexual way its just likes hes her brother. She is always like I would NEVER hook up with him gross, if she ever talks about it. I have just been chill with it for now but I can't help but wonder. What is your guys opinion on the issue, should I just let it ride, is it just issues with my inner game, should I just hang with other girls to keep my options open???


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:19 pm 
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I say remain confident, but keep your eyes open. I think she is attracted to the guy, if all of this is going on, if I had an attractive girl body slamming and wrestling with me, and teasing me, I'd assume she wants me, but thats just me. Not every situation is the same.

Don't overreact man, but don't be naive either. Honestly if she wants to cheat she will find a way to cheat, especially if she's hot like you say she is. Just don't worry about it, until you know for sure something is going on.


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Women lie...She has had sexual contact with the guy and you know it. She is dating you now so tell her to stop dry humping this guy in front of you. I would tell you to keep your options open, but you are already exclusive with this chick. If you like her, you like her. Just don`t take her to serious...But you NEED to lay down the law about the ex fuckbuddy...oh, I mean the "Roommate"


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Even if he is just a good friend or "brother" to her, a woman that respects their boyfriend wouldnt do these things infront of him. I would lay the law and tell her that things have to change. And ask her again about the history between them two. Seems like there was or "is" more than she's telling you.


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Meh. Devil's Advocate:

Any of the above scenarios could be true. But you could also be giving this guy too much credit. Synthetic PUAs tend to think that any guy with this amount of sexual chemistry with a girl is f-ing, about to f, or has f-ed this girl... The truth is, he probably wants to, but he might not have any game at all. I've had chick friends in the past where our sexual chemistry was through the roof, but I had no idea on how to capitalize on it back then, and nothing ever came of it.

I'll agree that it is a sticky situation. But given that you guys are so fresh and new to the relationship, I wouldn't put too much thought into it until you know for sure. That said, since this is bothering you, make it clear that if she wants to stay exclusive with you it has to stop. No ultimatums. Just tell her, "Look, this might sound a bit weird, but this bothers me." If she won't stop then you can move on or redefine the relationship. No big deal.

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Meh. Devil's Advocate:

Any of the above scenarios could be true. But you could also be giving this guy too much credit. Synthetic PUAs tend to think that any guy with this amount of sexual chemistry with a girl is f-ing, about to f, or has f-ed this girl... The truth is, he probably wants to, but he might not have any game at all. I've had chick friends in the past where our sexual chemistry was through the roof, but I had no idea on how to capitalize on it back then, and nothing ever came of it.

I'll agree that it is a sticky situation. But given that you guys are so fresh and new to the relationship, I wouldn't put too much thought into it until you know for sure. That said, since this is bothering you, make it clear that if she wants to stay exclusive with you it has to stop. No ultimatums. Just tell her, "Look, this might sound a bit weird, but this bothers me." If she won't stop then you can move on or redefine the relationship. No big deal.

Yeah back in the day, I had the same thing going on plenty of times, but I was to much of a huge gaping vagina to do anything about it, so this is what could be going on.


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I'll agree that it is a sticky situation. But given that you guys are so fresh and new to the relationship, I wouldn't put too much thought into it until you know for sure. That said, since this is bothering you, make it clear that if she wants to stay exclusive with you it has to stop. No ultimatums. Just tell her, "Look, this might sound a bit weird, but this bothers me." If she won't stop then you can move on or redefine the relationship. No big deal.
I totally agree with this...don't assume...although it may not look good from the surface, don't assume until you know for sure...most if not all truth will surface at one point in time or another.

Here's one thing to consider...what is his reaction when you two kiss in front of him or are close with physical touch...does he comment or react funny....if there was any sexual feelings there between him and her, it would be apparent. I don't see any guy being the type to share a girl, when there is sex, there are feelings no matter who you are, you are not going to be cool with someone banging your friend with benefits in front of you, not even kissing.

For now...just see it for what it is, they are close, but not that close as she states, if this is something you want to further with her, then yes...mention it bothers you when they are close. If she values what you two have, then she will most definitley stop what she is doing with him...if she doesn't, then it's up to you to decide what you can and can't tolerate.

Side note: If and when you do mention it to her...be clear with what bothers you and what doesn't...I say that because if you are not clear, she may think she is complying with your request and if she doesn't get the whole picture, she may continue to do what you don't want her too all the while she still feels she has stopped. Sounds dumb, but don't assume she gets what you are asking her to stop. It's best you are both clear so if it doesn't cease, you can at least say...I thought we both talked about this and you understood...it's better than rehashing and there being misunderstanding, having to mention this a second or third time to ensure she gets it right will only lead to insecuties on your part...at least that is how she will feel.

So far, things seem promising...good luck to you.

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Thanks for the feedback guys. Most recent update: yesterday she texted me about how she missed me and I said show me how much you miss me. Then later that day she said after much thinking she decided to give her 2 weeks at her 2nd job. She was working tons of hours between the 2, till 11 at night every night and a little on the weekends. Plus makes plenty of money at the one. She said she partially did it because I'm great and she wants us to be able to spend more time together and see where it goes..... In regards to the roommate thing, I could have been more direct, but actually when I was helping her move her stuff in I noticed her acting all touchy feely, and she could tell something was bothering me. So I told her after wards its weird and makes me feel uncomfortable when she's all touchy feely with her roommate. She reinforced that their is nothing to worry about and suggested I meet one of her last guy roommates and she thinks I would understand it better then. I was like your dating me so you should be touchy me not your roommate lol so she agreed. I'm just going to play it cool and see where it goes...Also in reply to cedius when we were kissing in front of him the one night he didn't really have a reaction and was getting close with one of his other friends that's a girl when we were (holding hands, kino, etc.) The other thing is the guy is divorced so she acts like hes all depressed about it which there is no way i can see that, and shes the type of person that likes to help people. He's always respectful to me and doesn't act standoff-ish either.


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That is always great to hear....Lot's of luck to you two.
Just remember, communicate when you honestly feel the need...not over petty shit!
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The other thing is the guy is divorced so she acts like hes all depressed about it which there is no way i can see that, and shes the type of person that likes to help people. He's always respectful to me and doesn't act standoff-ish either.
Another good quality...if she likes to help others...then she seems to be open minded to troubling issues and these people tend to try and see boths sides before making a decision...if that is the case...that is one cool girl to have! Does she have an older sister? :wink:

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For sure we will see what happens. Actually she does, but shes the hot one


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Here's the most recent update...So I swear everything is getting weirder as she moved "downtown" with her male roommate. I feel like she's trying to slowly withdraw herself to try and game me haha. Lately she has been acting extremely weird and is saying that shes really stressed with her job and moving downtown cause she needs to have a organized schedule blah blah blah. Spending the night less then usual, fucking less then usual and I give her multiple orgasms so my performance is above par, or going to dinner and saying she has to go home because she wants to get used to sleeping in her bed. She used to be like, "my roommate can wear earphones when we fuck and now shes like well we have to be quiet and respectful, she pays rent wtf lol. She used to give me tons more IOIs too. Another interesting thing is I'm friends with her roommate on face book and he blocked me from seeing his wall and pics which def. makes me not want to trust him. I communicated to her clearly that it is weird and not cool for them to be touching all the time in front of me, and she just acted like that's how they act. My friends saw her pics with him on fb and they all agreed it looks like she is dating him. She has been trying to reverse frames like how she is busy and we cant hang out too much and she wants to take it slow now, and i just agree with it, but its like shes reinforcing it. I know hes online dating looking for dates etc, but this is crazy. She claims in a couple weeks when shes done with her second job it will be all good and we will spend tons of time together. She thinks the city is the coolest thing ever and you know how those girls go. Plus shes still on the dating site where i met her all the time cause my profile is hidden but i can see when shes on and says shes showing her friends funny things lol, she must seriously think i was born yesterday. If she didn't move downtown in with this guy everything would be golden, but I'm stuck and cant do anything and I'm sure he is burning my game and not a good influence on my relationship. I might give it another week or 2 but looking like a lost cause....back to the drawing board lol


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I had a feeling about this one anyway, what you were describing was not normal with a friend relationship, she's a whore, and I'm glad you caught it in time, now you can leave her ass


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So here's the final update as to what happened in my opinion. When I first met this girl and she lived by me everything was perfect in every way imaginable, she was in love with me. It all started going down hill when she moved to the city in with her guy friend. All the nightlife and additional stimulus in the city was very overwhelming and it is hard for someone to adjust to that and handle a relationship, so she thought it was too much work having one in the downtown nightlife city culture. As for the whole roommate thing that was fucked from the get go. I really didn't have a chance since this guy was her best friend. After a few weeks living down there she quit her 2nd job saying its so we can spend more time together and wants to see where the relationship takes us. She never followed threw on this. She basically also is a face book whore, when we were dating she would be joking around about her being naked with her roomate and hanging out with random guys she met that were her friends which was not cool since we were in an exclusive relationship and I was not invited or had never met them. Whenever I tried to communicate anything to her she just twisted the frame back on me blaming it on me saying I want to hang out too much, or I'm not confident, or all i want to do is party. This was all stuff that she was doing on a daily basis. So recently I decided that if shes going to hang with all her guy friends I'm going to hang with all my girlfriends and have them write on my face book wall to see how she liked it. I went out with one of them this last Friday, before this she saw them writing on my wall and was already acting jealous. She only hung with me for a couple hours this week and we were supposed to get together sat. So on Friday she supposidly had girls night out, when she texted me: miss you, the bar she was at, and what am i doing; I just responded with having shots at my friend allies, then going out to the bars. I wasn't going to just run to the place she was at because her gfs went home as she didnt make plans with me earlier. The rest of the night I did not respond. I received a voice mail where she was drunk saying she was talking about me and missed me etc etc. The next morning I said my phone died and her guy friend told her I must be shacking up with this other chick, she somehow believed this. Basically 8 hours later she sent me a text like a saying this wasn't going to work out. Its because she saw me hanging out with all these other women that were my friends, saw them writing all over my facebook wall and could not handle it but I was supposed to deal with her doing the same- huge double standard. Whats so fucking weird is that she was saying how much she missed me, meant to her, wrote me cards etc etc, then 8 hrs later wants to break up which is massively in congruent. I attributed this to the fact that her mother is bipolar and she possibly is the same, thats the only thing that makes any sense. Crazy


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She basically also is a face book whore, when we were dating she would be joking around about her being naked with her roomate and hanging out with random guys she met that were her friends which was not cool since we were in an exclusive relationship... So recently I decided that if shes going to hang with all her guy friends I'm going to hang with all my girlfriends and have them write on my face book wall to see how she liked it.
Sorry it didn't work out.

Tell me, was this Facebook game that you played on her worth it, or just a waste of time?

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Waist of time, however I use it now as a huge tool to dhv to any girls. On to the next, tearing it up now!


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