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Yes. There is no single thing that makes a person a PUA. Like that thread that asks which is the most important skill for a PUA, or the most important characteristic, they are missing the whole point. Being a PUA means being well rounded, dynamic. With just one skill, or one attribute, you don't get anywhere. With a couple, you can get by and maybe do ok. When you have them all, then each one becomes more powerful and you end up being 10x better than the guy that has all but 1.

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i really would like to improve how i talk to girls i really dont want to be boring i wanna be exciting i want them to wanna continue to talk to me i dont get what to do but i seem to bore the girls they seem to not wanna talk i end up having to ask 100s of questions and they give lame short answers any ideas?


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i really would like to improve how i talk to girls i really dont want to be boring i wanna be exciting i want them to wanna continue to talk to me i dont get what to do but i seem to bore the girls they seem to not wanna talk i end up having to ask 100s of questions and they give lame short answers any ideas?
Honestly, learn how to be a story teller. Everyones got stories you just need to effectively convey your high values in them. Capture youre audience, including youre target and the people in the set, through your presentation & demeanor & overall body language.

As far as negs go. I go by the rule 1 step back 2 steps forward. Like mentioned before, you neg(1 step back) but recover (2 steps forward).

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k guys this is the deal this saturday i got a party (haloween party to be exact) ima be in a some what of a custome so ima approach ne girl i find i dont care if ima get recjected or not im approaching thats it end of story :)


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The key to getting people to answer questions in depth is to build rapport, by giving them enough information on your stance. So if I want to get someone to talk to me about their feelings towards one night stands (as I did last night) I will say, "One night stands are all well and fine, but the problem with them is that although you get that sex right when you want it, it isn't very good sex usually, is it?" *give her just enough time to think a second and start to reply, or if she isn't replying, just keep going anyways* "Don't you want to have truly GOOD sex? Sex that leaves you breathless and on the verge of passing out? Sex that makes you unable to see the ceiling, just sparkles of light because you're just on the brink of passing out? So that all you can do is just lie there and say, 'I'm done!'" Visibly and audibly sigh as if you are spent and were imagining what it was like. I swear I saw the light in her eyes as she was envisioning how this felt. "To have truly GREAT sex, you have to REALLY connect with someone." *Intense eye contact until she breaks it, don't back down even if it lasts a while, it will end when she ends it*

Unfortunately for me, her friend is bi, so pretty dominant in groups and I think she also has something for me, so she chose that time to lead the group back to the dance floor. But the same principle applied to any conversation. You need to show a person that you are willing to open up in order to get them to open up to you. If her friend hadn't led her away, she would have been telling me all about how she's never quite satisfied and how she isn't sure what it is she's looking for, blah blah blah.

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I see what your tryina say.... basically all i gots to do is tell stories? maybe a compliment here and there? and pray to god their not the type that doenst like to talk?


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Compliments can be used a bit, but negs are generally more effective until you have built enough rapport that you are in the comfort stage.

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alright ima give this a try i actually just got a book too magic bullets ima go read it now see what i can learn from this book...


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