So I've been around... Started off with MM, had 2 gf's... then bounced around to some other dudes, like 60YOC, etc. Now I'm going back to MM, with a sprinkle of some other things I picked up along the way. I have way more success with MM, especially with HB8's and up. Why do people hate him so much? Sure he may have some flaws, but they still work. And overall, his method is solid as fuck.

His A1, A2, A3, C1, C2, C3, S1, S2, S3, shit is on point like a pen, with or without the ball!

EDIT: The only reason I can see people disliking mystery is that they abuse some of his things. "Neg the target!" and that's all they do, like a dumbass.

I personally don't hate Mystery or his method. I think he is the man actually! One of my past girlfriends was because of MM. I think too many people over used his stuff and now it's just kind of old. There are tons of ways to get women. It's just what you're comfortable with.

Word. I agree that a lot of people use his stuff. I'm still going to follow his format, just with different ways of doing it. For example, when DHV'ing, you don't have to use the same routine over and over, that is very common. (Unless if it's an HB10 and you don't wanna take any chances lol) Switch it up... make it fun.

Yeah exactly! I don't think a lot of guys have any idea how to switch it up and just use his stuff word for word. I still use all the concepts just none of the words. In fact if most people watched me pick up a girl they would have no idea I was using MM.

My brotha! We see eye to eye. It's all about getting down the concepts, not the word for word shit he says. Personally, I think mystery is a weirdo. See the way he dresses, and the way he talks is all weird. If I didn't know mystery was a huge PUA, I would definitely not being go over to him and say wassup if I seen him on the street. You just have to get down the concepts, and match it with your own style as best as you can.

yeah i like MM, but for the reasons u guys said earlier like not using word for word stuff is why i like neil strauss so much, he took what he knew from mystery and a bunch of other puas and started making his own stuff so he would be more comfortable with it.