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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:40 am 
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hey guys
i m a newbie aspiring pua from new delhi,india
i met a girl in my coaching classes for engineering and she has been giving me signs of interest but the problem is that she has a boyfriend already
she is from another town and is here for her studies and her boyfriend also lives in the other town so they wont be seeing each other for a while
i don't know how to tackle this bf problem so plz help me out
some things which go in my favour are
1>It was her who approached me n not the other way round.
2>Thats for sure that she is interested in other men as she also told me abt how she had a crush on an ex-teacher there(and then winked at me) so there is a possibility that she is not completely satisfied with her current relationship n is trying to find a new adventure.
3>She initiated kino when i was sitting just in-front of her she was touching my back in a different way than just to distract,like she was trying to feel me.

one possible negative point is that since i didnt know how to tackle the bf problem i started behaving more like a friend than a potential mate for quite some time so i maybe damned by her into the deadly hell of the friends zone. But later i started light flirting again but couldnt continue for long time coz soon it was time for exams

We are gonna meet soon again but the classes wont be on for too long n after that there is a bright chance dat she'll go back to her town.

I feel the need to do somethin now
NEED HELP!! ASAP!!


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:50 am 
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I am from India too bro.... :)

There are couple of boyfriend destroyer routines which you can find in the internet. I found this in a book called "Rake routines", so credit goes to Derek Rake..

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Boyfriend destroyer techniques hinge on the principle that every partner has got
imperfections – and by amplifying these imperfections you will create doubt
in her mind if her boyfriend is her ideal partner after all.
The biggest mistake that one can make is to try to convince a woman LOGICALLY that
he is better than her existing boyfriend. Don’t do that.
Instead, imply (or plant in her mind) that you are the superior man by following this
sequence:
1. Find out the ‘faults’ of her boyfriend.
2. Amplify the faults (using the techniques below).
3. Imply that you’re the better choice as you do not have that particular fault.
Common Fault: Being Boring
Amplification: “He’s being too comfortable with you, and that’s why he is not
particularly adventurous with you anymore. Does he feel more like a brother to you
now? With me, I know things get predictable after awhile, but I like to keep things spicy
in a relationship.”
Common Fault: Being Needy
Amplification: “I wouldn’t blame him, really. You’re probably the only thing that is
going on for him in his life, and you have to remember that he needs you to feel
important.”
Common Fault: Being Abusive
Amplification: “This happens when the man is not able to control himself
emotionally. He can’t control the things that are happening inside his head, and so it all comes out in a physical manner. He is probably trying to make you stay with him
desperately, knowing that he won’t be able to get another woman.”
Common Fault: Being Jealous
Amplification: “He’s probably anxious that if he loses you, he won’t be able to find
another woman. It’s just that he doesn’t believe his luck that he is able to have you as his
girlfriend, and somehow deep inside he doesn’t think that he deserves to be with a
woman of your caliber.”
Common Fault: Being Afraid To Commit
Amplification: “Deep down inside he might think that he doesn’t deserve you. So, he
worries that you might leave as soon as you find someone else is better than him.”
Common Fault: Being Predictable At Sex
Amplification: “He wants to make you happy, but he’s worried that he cannot please
you. So, he never strays from the beaten path. He probably will do better soon,
especially when he gets over his self-esteem issues.”

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Ive never attempted this. And what i would have done in your place is i wouldnt even ask whether she has a boyfriend. If she tells me she has one, it means that she got the call LOL. It could possibly mean that she felt that i was hitting on her, so i would neg her a bit for thinking that way. Then i would ASSUME that she likes me cuz she mentioned 'boyfriend'. When i talk to her after that i wouldnt even mention about her bf, and i will just take it forward like that. Give lots of Kino (but take it slowly)...... Do the thumb wrestling routine, hand shake routine, push her away when we walk together and see if she pushes me back, tell her that she is not strong and let her punch me on the abs, palm reading etc..... then do some NLP talks with lots of anchors....do whatever but just let her have fun walking around with me. Be playful and not-serious at this time.... i wouldnt even bother asking her out now, i know how indian girls work, they mite freak out. Dont even bother to try the cube and other similar routines out unless she is KEEN to spent lots of time messing around with you. Finally if she is giving lots of IOIs and kinos to you phase shift (in an isolated, romantic place. Sad, there are no beaches in Delhi) I would phase shift rather slowly than the "Evolution Phase Shift routine" of style. Like i would say that your most powerful feature are your eyes, they are totally seductive and stare into it for some seconds (I would add in something playful like "Are your glasses bullet-proof?" if she is wearing one to take it slower). Then i would talk about what i find attractive in a girl and associate her indirectly with it (If she is showing any minor disinterest, i would change the pattern and go playful again). I would talk potential qualities of a bf and anchor me with it. I would be playing with her hand all this time (and somewhere in the middle i would just release her hand and wait to see if she is holding it again for more IOIs). One routine i would use here is the "finger walk routine (i named it myself haha). I would ask her to walk from the tip of my finger to tip of my toes using her fingers, if i feel the tickle somewhere in the middle she wins. You have to close your eyes so that she can do whatevr if she wants to. ( and i will buy for her an ice-cream if she wins , otherwise she will buy me one. fair?). Then i will do the finger walk on her, i wouldnt bother goin over her boobies or anything but i would walk over other sensual areas like inner thighs, take a diversion near her boobs etc....aka make her horny or phase shift. I would also try to tickle her near her hips or arms etc. Act playful and dont ever act like you want more of it. If she is having fun play this game one more time. If the game went the way you want it to be, immediately pull her closer and talk more intimately like she won you over. When you talk to her closely, play with her hair a bit, like swipe the hair near her face etc and maintain eye contact. If you need more phase shift try some routines from Evolution Phase Shift also. And when you find the right time, kiss close. Deal. Dont even bother to ask her out, she already took you to be her new boyfriend and she woulda already lied to her current bf to break with him :D :D Since its india, u shud really try to find an isolated area as most girls would find it slutty/scary to kiss on public. Hope ths helps.

Mario :)


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:50 pm 
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Boyfriend destroyer techniques hinge on the principle that every partner has got
imperfections – and by amplifying these imperfections you will create doubt
in her mind if her boyfriend is her ideal partner after all.
The biggest mistake that one can make is to try to convince a woman LOGICALLY that
he is better than her existing boyfriend. Don’t do that.
Instead, imply (or plant in her mind) that you are the superior man by following this
sequence:
1. Find out the ‘faults’ of her boyfriend.
2. Amplify the faults (using the techniques below).
3. Imply that you’re the better choice as you do not have that particular fault.
Common Fault: Being Boring
Amplification: “He’s being too comfortable with you, and that’s why he is not
particularly adventurous with you anymore. Does he feel more like a brother to you
now? With me, I know things get predictable after awhile, but I like to keep things spicy
in a relationship.”
Common Fault: Being Needy
Amplification: “I wouldn’t blame him, really. You’re probably the only thing that is
going on for him in his life, and you have to remember that he needs you to feel
important.”
Common Fault: Being Abusive
Amplification: “This happens when the man is not able to control himself
emotionally. He can’t control the things that are happening inside his head, and so it all comes out in a physical manner. He is probably trying to make you stay with him
desperately, knowing that he won’t be able to get another woman.”
Common Fault: Being Jealous
Amplification: “He’s probably anxious that if he loses you, he won’t be able to find
another woman. It’s just that he doesn’t believe his luck that he is able to have you as his
girlfriend, and somehow deep inside he doesn’t think that he deserves to be with a
woman of your caliber.”
Common Fault: Being Afraid To Commit
Amplification: “Deep down inside he might think that he doesn’t deserve you. So, he
worries that you might leave as soon as you find someone else is better than him.”
Common Fault: Being Predictable At Sex
Amplification: “He wants to make you happy, but he’s worried that he cannot please
you. So, he never strays from the beaten path. He probably will do better soon,
especially when he gets over his self-esteem issues.”

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I didnt read the last wall of text but that part was just stupid. I can never see how acting as her shrink could make her choose you over another guy.

Make clear that you don't want to be her friend, you want HER! If you don't show her that you will prob end up in the friendzone and that sux.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:40 pm 
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@Who? Direct game wont work all the time. Lots of negs, kino and phase shift means no friend zone (if u r doing it rite). Also, if they are serious i would just probably eject and forget that girl.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:57 am 
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@Who? Direct game wont work all the time. Lots of negs, kino and phase shift means no friend zone (if u r doing it rite). Also, if they are serious i would just probably eject and forget that girl.
What i mean here is that thay have already been friends for a while and its time to do something before it's too late.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:34 am 
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Yawn... Man, I'm trying to pull an all nighter, but it's hard.

Anyways, I was too lazy to read the boyfriend destroyer, but I can tell you one thing. There are a lot of boyfriend destroyers out there for different situations. If you wanna use one, then read a bunch and see which makes sense to YOU.

What I would do:
I agree that direct is the best approach. Then again, I'm Biased because most of my daygame is going direct.
You need to change your whole vibe around her. She'll be like, wtf, but if you are truely in the friendzone, then it may get you out. Now by change, I don't mean act like a martian. You say that you acted like a friend around her. Well, time to start acting like to really dig her.
Go direct. Then tease her and make her laugh. Make sure you touch as well.
If you're moving too fast and she says she has a boyfriend; slow down, but keep pushing. Tell her that he must be the perfect guy to have gotten her (I got this from some BF destroyer back in the day). This will make her question her relationship and question why her bf doesn't do these things.

Just remember to keep pushing forward. There's always some way to push it one level higher. If she hasn't left, then she likes it; go a level higher.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:31 am 
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thnx a lot every1 4 ur replies
so now i've got somethin to work on
yeah its true we've been friends already but she's been giving me those iois right from the day i met her...n she's been playful with me too...and so was i...until 1 day she blurted out abt the bf one day we were chattin on d internet...n also asked me if i had a gf...but i didnt make a big deal abt it...just didnt give a damn abt the bf still maintained a fun vibe after dat but no longer acted like a potential mate n started acting more like a friend.Now this was bcoz i know its really difficult to game gals who r in a relationship no matter how bad it is but l8er i realised dat i was on d wrong track so started light flirting again n she is still playful,moreover her personality type acc. to Vin DiCarlo's Profiler is "The Seductress"...so i can't b really sure abt it if i m already damned into the deadly hell of friends-zone by her or not....but from wat u guys hv told me, i've got somethin to work on...i'll try it out n see where it gets...thnx a lot guys

Happy Sarging


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:20 pm 
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Dont even bother to ask her out, she already took you to be her new boyfriend and she woulda already lied to her current bf to break with him :D :D Since its india, u shud really try to find an isolated area as most girls would find it slutty/scary to kiss on public. Hope ths helps.

Mario :)
hey thnx for all that effort to write all that down...but she really isn't considering to drop her bf already...i mean,i can make it out by looking at the kind of interaction they have on fb...maybe she is still attracted to me but maybe just wants me to make a move so that she doesn't come across as sluttish infront of her friends(all of who know about her bf) for going out with me...and also since i've not given her much of IOIs so maybe she is not sure whether i like her or not so she may not consider dropping her bf for me so that just incase i am not interested then she doesn't lose what she already has.


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