Gaming HB9 on okcupid. I sort of left the conversation stale for a week since I was gaming and went on a date with another girl but that didn't work out. So I'm back online.

We had a pretty good conversation going here's the last part:

Me: Cool, so why are you a vegetarian?

PS: let's chat sometime

Her: I am vegetarian for a lot of reasons. First, I never really liked the taste of much meat. Then, I don't really want to encourage the killing of animals when I don't need them to live a fulfilled life. It would also be better for the environment to not have the large poultry, swine, and cattle farms. So, I don't want to support them. That is basically why. It may not be enough for some people, but it is for me. I have been vegetarian for almost 10 years.



Another reason I left it stale is that I took she wasn't interested since she didn't acknowledge my "lets chat sometime"


But I figure I'll give it another shot.

Ball is in my court, how should I respond?

She may not have acknowledged the "let's chat sometime" but she certainly give you a pretty wordy answer. OTOH, she didn't exactly flirt with you, but you barely did either.

Honestly, your question is kind of boring (being a vegetarian) and she probably has that answer on her permanent clipboard. I would try asking her about something that no one else asks her - without seeing her profile, I can't really tell. Maybe a quote from her favorite movie, or ask her what she sings when she's in the shower - idk man lol

Alright what if I said this "Did you know that they did this study and found that 90% of girls masturbate in the shower and the other 10% sing, do you know what they sing? "

Or is that a little too strong?

You can also throw a neg in there (if you want).

"Ew! 10 years with no soap? Or do you use the vegetarian soap?"

Fact: Alot of soaps on the market today use animal fats.

Same shit goes with wool, does she look at her tags to see if it contains wool.. blah blah blah blah. YGTP

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How about:

"Did you know that lots of soaps use animal fat, please tell me you did not go 10 years without using soap. That's just gross. Or do you use vegetarian soap? "

PS: Do you also look at clothing tags in stores to see if it contains wool?


I think that's good, only problem I could potentially see is her getting offended although I winked so it should be taken as playful teasing.

Say she responds, how do I escalate to getting her number? This will be the 4th or 5th message of mine

Something along those lines. I personally, wouldn't neg too much. No matter how many winks, lol's, or roflcopters you stuff in it. She's an hb9, just like all her other msgs in her inbox, they're packed full of frienly, colorful shit. It's invisible to her.

I'm gonna save the #-close with someone more experienced to help you out. I'm still learning as well.. I have my methods that work for me, but I know for a fact they don't work with other guys. I don't wanna give you a fail-close

edit: don't forget to take your time with these msgs.. slow your roll

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"Hey, can you help me sort of wash my back?"
-Neil Strauss

Ok I sent that and she replied 5 min later (go figure)

Her: No... I use soap. Don't worry. I am more concerned about what I put into my body. Although, i didn't know that. Poor animals.

hmm seems like any teases I throw get shot down (not sure how to continue it)

You're fixating on the vegetarian thing man. She's responding to you, so that is good, but you've got to move into the attraction. The thing about the shower is that she's pairing her naked with a question you asked. The masturbation was thing was a little strong, but you could twist that around with 10% of girls sing in the shower...are you one of those and if not what do you gals do to pass the time?" That's to go with your theme..

that said, you can't spend too much time messaging her or else you'll just be her message friend. One that I always use is one that the legendary JSmooth passed on - a real loss to the forum that he isn't here anymore. It sounds cheesy, but telling the girl you find her attractive is letting her know exactly what you are interested in.

so anyway, as much as I love sending messages back and forth I think you are nice interesting, and really attractive and I'd love actually meet up with you for some real conversation over coffee/drinks/dinner so here's my email, or better yet, send me a text: My number is ____ text me and I'll call you back. No one answers unknown numbers anymore, do they?

That said, I would spend a long time reading the ask JSmooth thread - his advice got me laid at least three times - so much good info in there.

Hey thanks, yeah I remember reading JSmooth's thread like 2 or 3 years ago, what happened to that guy? Anyway I sent this today and she replied. (she's pretty quick) but she never asks me questions in return (not even a "what about you?"). Is that an IOD?

Me: Haha I was gonna say, but yea I feel bad for the animals too

I just read about this new personality test. It's one question...You're walking in a park and you notice a briefcase in the bushes...you open it...it's full of money! You look around and see no one. Then you close it....what do you do?


Her: I know that I would feel terrible if I took it. So, I would bring it to the Police. Or maybe just call them to tell them it was there. My conscience wouldn't let me take the money.



Where do I take this, is now a good time to drop the "I find you attractive, here's my number, text me ect?"

The one asking most questions is the one 'chasing'. Your chasing to much. Try mixing it up with statements that are teasing. She will start to ask questions when you stop qualifying yourself to her and DHV.
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'Me: Haha I was gonna say, but yea I feel bad for the animals too' Potential convo killer just for being boring. Although it is a statement lol. challenge her with a statement that shows your not qualifying yourself to her and will provoke her to say something back. E.G. ' OMG! We like totally have so much in common because I love animals too... they are DELICIOUS!!!' So you're making it about you and not attacking her but your still challenging her if that makes sense.

Now is not a good time to ask for a phone number. Always ask for a phone number on a high your more likely to get it because a) she is more into you and b) your forcing her to kill the mood and women do not like to without a reason.

The briefcase thing was good because you are basically telling her I'm going to judge you on your response because this is a 'personality test'. You are qualifying her and she is jumping through your hoop by responding and notice how she is trying to be all good by saying i can't take the money etc. You need to tease her in your response basically pretend like it is the wrong answer and she has failed the personality test.

Make a really big deal out of it and be all dramatic and stuff. Women love drama

What if I just try this approach:

so anyway, as much as I love sending messages back and forth I think you are nice interesting, and really attractive and I'd love actually meet up with you for some real conversation over coffee/drinks/dinner so here's my email, or better yet, send me a text: My number is ____ text me and I'll call you back. No one answers unknown numbers anymore, do they?

she already failed the personality test because she responded! why would you EVER open a briefcase that's not yours! SHAME ON YOU!!!

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"Hey, can you help me sort of wash my back?"
-Neil Strauss

Haha ok, that'll be my response.

Me: "Sorry you failed, why would you EVER open a briefcase that's not yours! SHAME ON YOU!! "

I'll send that and see what her reply is. Since it's a statement, a reply to that would be an IOI, correct?

Her: haha Oh well. That wasn't an option. You told me that I opened it!

Another qualifying question, or should I give her my number?

Oh so you always do as your told?!! Well then I need to tell you we have to swap numbers