I just had this weird situation in a club.

VIP lounge and so on and some cockblockers make way ´cause I knew like half of the people, so I was like DHV.

After a couple of approaches and #close during the night, the club was getting empty, so only few needy gals and guys still dancing.

So there was this HB 8 and HB 5 dancing next to me, the 8 was sending me IOI. I was like dancing really cocky with my wing next to me whom I had to calm down ´cause he was eyeing the 5 quite obviously. AFCs were trying there luck and chased them off.

I was giving them just enough attention, not acting like most AFC would do, so they were always coming back next to me. I decided not to approach like all the previous AFC, instead I was displaying mysterious vibes.

So they were teasing and gasping for attention. When it was time to go, I went off to get my jacket, noticed them looking at me. Then I approached the HB 8 with a direct opener. She was maybe shit testing me but I kept playing. Then she ejected and I just went off with a "just too bad for ya" kind of smile.

Now I wonder if I messed it up by acting AFC. Should I have tried to dance with them or were they just fooling around, ´cause they were obviously young (like 20-21 and me 27)...

1.) Age doesn't matter. I've seen girls give massive IOIs to super UGLY GUYS who are old & the same to very young dudes.
2.) Learn some routines. Many guys will say don't learn routines you waste your time. Learn them. And it's how you say them. Because I still go up to girls and all of a sudden NOTHING. so I have a cheat sheet as well. Most of the biggest PUAs have cheat sheets. Whatever gets the job done.
3.) Cheers on the # closes, I've been having bad luck with them. The last girl I got a # from, turned out she was 15 so I couldn't do anything. You hook up with any of the girls you got #s from? There's a few REAL GOOD ANTI-BLUR routines out there. to make sure you can see here again. Mystery has a brilliant one.

It's a shame that cute girl ejected. She was probably attracted to you because she saw you around other women. Keep gaming & learning my friend.

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I think if you actually wanted that girl at the end you should have danced with her. By the time you hit on her you were too slow and she was more interested in whether or not you would hit on her. The good news is that if you are both regulars you will probably get another shot at her.

You over thought it way too much you should have gone up to her she was waiting. By the end when you were leaving it was already too late. In that situation say something like "So are you going to keep flirting from a distance or can we talk?"

If your trying to be different to all other guys by not approaching your not different at all your just exactly the same as the rest of the guys too scared to approach. In my opinion routines are stupid and hardly ever work but do whatever works for you just next time look at the situation think of an opener and approach!

So obviously I acted like an AFC in the sense that I didn´t approach her on the dancefloor, when I thought approaching will just chase her off like all other guys before. Probably she was waiting for me to approach. I wanted to act a bit indifferent, but it went kind of too long.

But the thing that made me act that way, was that during that night I only had # from girls sitting in the lounge area when talking to them. But on the dancefloor all girls sending me IOI whom I approach with a dance or direct opener were just ejecting. I was like wtf is wrong with these girls... maybe they just playing for attention ´cause in this club there were lots of kids around 18 acting arrogant.

I´ll definitely avoid this kind of clubs, I´m no regular there, was only a b-day party of a friend.

I often see guys on a dance floor trying to start their pick up there. IMO, far smaller chances than approaching girl outside the dance floor (then You can take her to dance a bit if You wanted to).
The biggest mistake I see is that guys are just "dancing", more like pretending and trying to show that they can just move but their energy level is wayyyyy too low and they don't get attention they also never smile. Now think about it... if the guy like this walks up to a girl on a dance floor she doesn't feel like she's gonna have fun dancing with him.
Also to approach HB 8-10 You'd need bit social proof I guess (maybe some other girls dancing with You or friends greeting You while You're dancing).

What I do when I enter dance floor all by myself is just party like I'm having the best time ever I smile all the time, I got high energy (I love dancing overall and I'm not afraid to shake my body, on occasions I got girls grabbing my ass even) and when I spot some girl giving me EC I look back and see if she holds it for few more seconds. If yes, then I can just start dancing nearby and try to focus my rhythm with hers and try dancing side-by-side and if she goes along with it and is with a friend I try to make her friend have a good time to so I dance back and forth side-by-side with both for example. Two-sets on a dance floor are rather impossible to split unless You got a wing or her friend takes a hint and leaves . But it really doesn't matter to me 'cause I'm just there having fun. There are some really hot girls there dancing in pairs and you can see that when they dance really close to each other (You know, when You wonder for a second Are they lesbians? ) then most likely if You try to approach them they'll refuse.

To make this shorter, when I'm on a dance floor I'm partying like I couldn't have more fun, smile a lot and don't be shy to shake your body (don't forget the ass, girls LOVE it ). The fact that You're having the good time and You're not seeking some girl to dance with will result in some IOIs, like EC, or they rub against Your body and smile when you look at them. And proceed from there

Actually I wrote some FR about my night out yesterday and there are some bits about dance floor there .
I'm not some mPUA but my friends tell me often that I'm a good dancer and I attract girls on a dance floor .

Regards,
Mav-

My thought process is that they never play for attention. They WANT to talk to you but its like how well can you sell yourself. Confidence in how you speak is the most important and anything is possible. Clubs are still great for picking up because its a concentration of hot girls which gives alot to choose from. Also if girls see u getting numbers off other girls it can work to your advantage and they get jealous which might have been what happened.

#close with girls in lounge area and so on goes definitely much easier, but I want to improve my approaches on the dancefloor...

In clubs I also often see guys dancing average and trying to get near HBs who are dancing very tight. Some will start a conversation from a lousy body language, however I find it ridiculous to lean towards a girl in this situation to say more than a few significant words.

So when I go with a wing on the dancefloor we just want to have fun. I would say we´re very confident dancers, without acting aggressive, so we always get IOI on the dancefloor. That´s why I like approaching by dancing ´cause girls who want to have fun, will want to play with me.

But unfortunately besides those girls, there are always girls who send IOI but when it comes to playfullish dancing they focus on themselves, turn their back, look back and so forth...

So that´s the thing I wanna understand. How to approach this kind of girls?´cause I like girls who wanna have fun, but I feel even more attracted to girls playing hard to get on the dancefloor, those are often of high calibre...

IMO without preselection you wont get those higher caliber girls. Dance nearby them with other girls so they'd see to build attraction and then just seek out for their IOIs FIRST before You show them Yours.

Link to my last FR when I wrote a bit about what I did on dance floor: When it comes to dance floor game I'm trying to be very careful. I know that rejection on dance floor will be seen by everyone around and that's really not good for social proof. If I'm not sure she won't mind I won't approach her on dance floor. You can always wait a bit until they take break and see where they go and approach from outside of a dance floor .

Mav-

If shes in a group the best way it if you can get eye contact with her. Hold eye contact for as long as possible until she looks away then you can approach. Dancing by herself they are usually in their own world and you may need a small neg just to get her attention.

There are other ways to open as well e.g.
I opened a set on the dfloor cos she bumped me and i spilt my drink and i wanted her to buy me a new tshirt. She then introduced me to her friend cos she had a bf.

Yes social proofing helps but its not needed girls arent going to say sorry i cant talk to you, you dont have enough friends lol

You're right, they won't say something like that directly BUT you need to show somehow You're THE MAN and that you're not some AFC who's hovering around trying to start dancing with her.

Last Saturday there was this girl dancing all by herself also and she was dancing nearby and we just happened to stand next to each other. We synchronized our rhythms and danced like this for a while. Song ended, she smiled at me, waved and went back to her friends. But it was nice, friendly.
So You see, even though she was in her own world, dancing all by herself (and she was definitely a 7) but if You send the right vibe and You look like You're just having fun with people around then I think that's a big boost on a dance floor .

But yeah, EC is very important. That's the main indicator I follow up on a dance floor.

Mav-

You don't hover when I said the eye contact thing dont stare until she looks at you I meant it as it you both look at each other the same time e.g. walking past or whatever just dont break eye contact and then go up to her straight after. If your out to just have a good time thats fine but I would have said something to the chick you were dancing next to

You don't hover when I said the eye contact thing dont stare until she looks at you I meant it as it you both look at each other the same time e.g. walking past or whatever just dont break eye contact and then go up to her straight after. If your out to just have a good time thats fine but I would have said something to the chick you were dancing next to.

Btw I read some of your FR sounds like me about a yr ago.

That's what I meant by EC on dance floor as well. When I notice some girl looking at me, I look back at this instant (sorta double take) and just don't break it. Eye Contact is a very powerful thing I learned and I focus on it a lot. As well as body language. I'm bit of a nut about this subject .
I tend to not chat on a dance floor. Music's wayyyy too loud. I can make only short comments and that's rarely. But I'm open to any thoughts about what I could've said there to her on the spot.

Would You care to elaborate about my FR? But in it's topic. We don't want to go offtopic here, right ?

Mav-