Recently, I moved out of my former roommate's house. He has a drinking problem and it was affecting me negatively. I wanted to get away from the drinking and drugs, so thankfully my parents let me back into their home. I also started going to 12 Step meetings here in my small town. This has made a huge difference in my life. My life is no longer controlled by drugs.

I have bipolar disorder and take medication for this. I have a psychiatrist and go to therapy a few times a year too. The 12 Step group also provides me with a nice place to go and talk about my problems and listen to others.

I no longer go to bars/clubs, because of the negative influence they had on me. I no longer hang out with friends that use drugs. The only problem is that I have trouble finding women. I gave up on online game too. The best solution that I found is day game. I rarely see girls out in the middle of the day that are drunk. I may also pick up ballroom dancing again.

This may not work for everybody, but I feel that I am happier without having to rely on drugs (including alcohol) for my happiness. At my age, I am tired of constantly having to look over my shoulder and being paranoid of people around me. I can and will find girls that are clean and sober. Does anybody else share this mission in life?

Thank you for reading,
Chicoman

Hey man I feel what you're saying and I wanna congrats to you for giving up drinking & drugs those two are the real killer not only of game but the killer of life, personally I don't have any kind of problems like that, but I have friends who do and it is really sad to watch, how they tare themselves apart, while they've got whole life to live.
I know, because I was also almost dragged into this and it seems very tempting to enter this world, because it offers a lot of fun but in a longterm you come out as a looser, with no life, no goals and no purpose. There just isn't any motivation to drive you on.

I'm glad, that you posted this thread, because many guys get sucked into this and none of them comes out better then he got in.

I'm glad that you said NO to the lifestyle that leads to destruction.

Keep working the good work man thumbs up

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Thanks Kupid. I like the fact that you are supporting me on this difficult quest. Just recently, I've also decided to quit smoking cigarettes as well. I am clean/sober for 90 days coming up this month. I seem to have a lot more energy and my memory is much better/sharper the I can remember. :P I no longer wake up with hangovers...

My life is finally coming together again and I am feeling the thrill of success. I have more money to pay the bills with; money that used to be spent on beer. My doctors and parents are also proud of me for following through with their advice. Life seems to be going well. Thanks again for your positive support.

-Chicoman

That's great man I'm happy for you Keep doing the good work bro

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Brilliant bud, I also have tons of friends who are constantly drunk, who take drugs on the weekends, or smoke pot everyday.
And its really sad because the people on the outside know how destructive it is, and they can see how they're destroying their lives.
It's good to see that you out though, that its you who wanted the change.
Its good that you've found direction again, drugs are easy to take when you have no direction or purpose, since they distort reality.
But you seem like a really cool guy, and really well done!

Life is amazing, breathe it in, let it flow through you. Be happy, haha. Focus on yourself for now imho, if you find a nice girl, kudos.

Take are,
Guru

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Three cheers for this! I'm mid 20s and recently stopped drinking and smoking too, and I gotta say, I feel you 100%. It is like every moment that you're awake, you're aware and vibrant and happy to be experiencing life. The present moment. It is funny how that gets lost between childhood and adulthood.

Anyway, I'm right here with you on this.

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Good Job man, its not easy giving up those sweet little pleasures of life.. I've been battling with smoking for 12 months trying to actively give it up..

I recently cut booze down to a severe minimum (2 drinks, once a week!) which feels great..

Offers a sense of killer empowerment and makes talking to broads so much easier.

I commend you for how well you've done so far.. I admire anyone who is proactive in life and sticks to it.

ha ha good charlie pic

OP....you know you are doing it right. Perhaps feeling a little strange now because you must drum up some new venues, but the dance classes sound really good.

I could have very easily sunk into drugs but I sort of woke up in the middle of it and said "whoah! I don't do drugs !" and got my ass out of that scene. I also totally quit booze and smoking. I still do some caffeine and ginseng and am no longer a vegetarian, but shit , what am I running for saint of the year ? Fuck no !

I still do go to clubs, order "virgin" drinks. Nobody can tell a virgin bloody mary from a regular one. However, I no longer go to plain old bars. Without the drinking, plain old bars suck.

Let us know how the dance classes work out.

I admire that you've taken the steps necessary to rid yourself of alcohol dependency and are living a life you're much happier with.

That being said, I fundamentally disagree with many aspects of the 12-step approach and don't believe it's necessarily the best mentality to give someone.

Specifically, having to admit and continually affirm that you are POWERLESS to control your alcoholism and thus cannot ever have even one drink.

I just don't believe that's true.

You have complete free will and have all the power in the world to choose whatever course of action you want. You were powerful and forceful enough to make those changes in your life that you did, and you've resisted the urge to take a drink - that shows immense restraint.

You know perfectly well that you can enjoy a social life and not drink alcohol. You can easily go into a bar and have a fun time and drink water or non-alcoholic beverages. It's not a problem. The idea that the "temptation" will suck you in and suddenly you'll be downing quarts of whiskey is just not true. You know your limits - don't let alcohol KEEP controlling your life by you shying away from normal social activities you once enjoyed because of the fear that you might take one drink and that'll inevitably lead to 50. It's not true. You ALWAYS have free will. You know that now, more than ever.

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Congratulation men ! If you are switching your addiction. I can totally see you in few month :

You : "Hello my name is Chicoman..."
Others :"Hello Chicoman !"
You : " And I'm a sex addict... "

You : "Hum, I meant Pick up artist... I can't restrain myself to pick up a women. As soon as I see a HB7+. I have to try to pick her up, there are no other ways"

Don't take it bad, I'm j/k. I don't share your mission, but I wish you good luck !

[quote="Ryan Oceros aka blondguy"]I admire that you've taken the steps necessary to rid yourself of alcohol dependency and are living a life you're much happier with.

That being said, I fundamentally disagree with many aspects of the 12-step approach and don't believe it's necessarily the best mentality to give someone.

Specifically, having to admit and continually affirm that you are POWERLESS to control your alcoholism and thus cannot ever have even one drink.

I just don't believe that's true.

You have complete free will and have all the power in the world to choose whatever course of action you want. You were powerful and forceful enough to make those changes in your life that you did, and you've resisted the urge to take a drink - that shows immense restraint.

You know perfectly well that you can enjoy a social life and not drink alcohol. You can easily go into a bar and have a fun time and drink water or non-alcoholic beverages. It's not a problem. The idea that the "temptation" will suck you in and suddenly you'll be downing quarts of whiskey is just not true. You know your limits - don't let alcohol KEEP controlling your life by you shying away from normal social activities you once enjoyed because of the fear that you might take one drink and that'll inevitably lead to 50. It's not true. You ALWAYS have free will. You know that now, more than ever.[/quote]


We have another saying in my 12 Step group: "One is too many and a thousand is never enough" with regards to addiction. I agree that there is always free will. I am using MY free will not to go into situations where I'm going to relapse and end up in the jail and/or hospital. Sure I can go into the bar and just stick to a couple drinks, but that is just going to start my drinking/using cycle up all over again. I choose not to take that path. There are many other places I can go to pick up women besides the bars.

-Chicoman

shmoke da rifa

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I see what you're saying, but I don't agree with you.
I was into drugs pretty hard for some years of my life. I was using hard drugs like speed or cocaine everyday for time to time. Also I got to try hallucinogens like
LSD, Mushrooms, Salvia, DMT and all of that stuff.
I'll say like this, sure it affected me in a negative way at first when I stopped using (and of course during the time I was using, although I didn't see it at the time).

However, now that I've been clean for almost a year and started to build myself up again, get my confidence back etc. for missing out on all those things normal persons did sober, I feel way superior to other men that havn't done what I've done. Thing is you start seeing the world with different eyes, especially if you've tried hallucinogenic drugs. This affects my game in a very positive way, as I have much more of an eye of how things actually work and is much more open-minded in general.

I don't wanna say that I know anything more than you do, maybe I don't and maybe I'm delusional. But, I know for a fact coming out of bad habits and bad situations will make you stronger in the long run. Not immediatley, but after you've had some time reflecting on your past life.

My 2 cents.

thread is veering off course, but ok

about the guy talking against 12 step programs..... the purely non-spiritual "I control everything" mentality is not appropriate for all people all the time. Sometimes you use all the control you have just to ask for help, and that is literally all you can do.

As far as the pro's of doing drugs, the only people who talk about that are the survivors who have fond memories. The casualties, the deaths, don't speak about that. Of course the current unrepentant junkies will swear that they are better in some way for their habit. The psychedelic drugs are part of a spiritual path for some people, but for most people they are something they do at raves, and for some they are the last drug they do before being diagnosed as schizophrenic for the rest of their lives. Overall, I can't recommend anything more than a glass of beer or wine, and I mean ONE.