Ok so this girl I've been texting the past 2 weeks is in town and I told her I'm free tomorrow night or Saturday. So she wants to meet on Saturday. We've had a pretty nice text convo. then I asked her if she had any particular preferences as to what to do. I told her I was thinking we can go get dinner at the mall or something. (not much to do in this small town) I also told her I'm down for anything. Maybe that's being AFC but I don't want her uncomfortable when I meet her for the first time, it'll hurt my game

I'm about to just say fuck it and say lets do dinner and a movie or something since I have a movie gift card. A movie alone isn't ideal since we don't get to talk and get to know each other but a movie would be good after dinner (kino/cuddle opportunity much easier). If it's just dinner or a hang out, how would I escalate kino. Wouldn't doing kino routines in a restaurant put her off or look creepy?

Son, get creative.. chicks love creativity..

If you've been txting for 2 weeks you must have some idea of her interests.. 9 times out of 10 the girl fancy's themselves as a bit of an artist..

Get some canvas/paint.. hit up the park and paint what you see..

Music? chicks love to dance/music take her for a drink after dinner... Tear up the club! it'll be all about you if you've done it right.

Use the opportunity to Cook her dinner, taking her out is nice.. but cooking for her really demonstrates confidence in yourself and effort.. If you nail it then good for you.. if it's subpar.. you've tried.. then order a pizza.. perfect opp to segway into a movie.. WHICH YOU'VE pre chosen!.

Take the lead and make the decisions.. base these decisions on a compromise of what you like to do/eat/watch and what she clearly has demonstrated she likes.

Yeah, she said she doesn't care what we do either so we will probably just do dinner and a movie. Last night we were texting and I told her I can read minds. She was intrigued and is asking me to prove it So I think I have my kino entrance and esp routines lined up for me before the date even starts.

Another thing, I get the vibe and IOI's that she's into me but I don't in fact know for sure since I usually initiate text conversations (except for the other night) and she will go as long as 36 to 48 hours without texting me if I don't text her back. So If she brought up or mentioned some guy she was talking to or something I don't want that to affect my game. Honestly I get nervous if I go in there with the mentality that if I screw up i'm done. I'm just going to walk in there being laid back and more of myself and I know I can be funny and outgoing. I'm going to go in there like I'm just messing around with her like a friend I haven't seen in a while. I'll run cold reading and kino but other than that I will just be myself and be funny and outgoing and try to lead half if not more of the conversation. I'll also try to have the mind set that I won't see her again. That way I don't give as much of a shit about "perfect game" or getting a day 3 otherwise I appear "try hard" and I just want to have a fun time. I think that's the best approach despite me being really into this girl. I just don't want to develop oneitis and get burned.

Some questions.

How would I know to intiate a kiss when saying bye? Like how will I know she would be open to it?

Do I text her after the date saying I had a good time and would like to see her again? or wait a few days?

Should I pay for her but when doing so say "only if you pay next time" ? Or what?

Date I thought went well, we ate dinner, walked around the mall for a bit then saw a movie. I did kino escalation while hanging out and she was totally into the esp routines. Like "how did you do that!" then during the movie I initiated hand contact and she was cool. However something seemed off, she wasn't in a position where I could easily kiss her. After the movie ended things seemed to have ended quickly and we hugged each other and said goodbye but didn't kiss.

I texted her shortly after asking if I made her uncomfortable or what. She said that I didn't and she had a blast.

Then I asked if she'd like to do this again sometime when she's back in town and she said yes "but as friends"


so I got LJBF at the end of the night ....great.


She was very cute and I was really into her. I hate when I fall into oneitis but I know the thing to do is to stop all contact and move on. She lives in my area and will be here all summer. Should I try again in 2 or 3 months? How do I go about doing that?

Son, I am disappoint.. Why would you do this? lol.. Now your "friends".. learn to not ever second guess yourself.

and the reason you didn't get a kiss is cos you didn't do it... Next time, just do it whatya got to lose?

a friendship with a girl you get to watch move in and out of relationships with guys that aren't you? no thanks.

So what's the best way to salvage IF there's a small chance? I haven't contacted her since, is that a good start?

Nah, your thinkin all wrong.. as in your thinking about it too much.. it's very simple.. she's come, she's assessed she's decided your not it for her.. move on.. no if's, no but's ... just move on.. Contact her, sure! but expect that your now friend zoned.. it's over man.. if you want a female friend then good.. if not.. Bail.. 100%

the issue is, she's made up her mind... your best chance.. as odd as it sounds is to literally let her go.. find others then down the track if you guys hang - out, meet up.. which is fine.. you might have a better, stronger leg to stand on.. Pretty much start again..

the more you pursue.. the further you'll get pushed into the friend zone.. you'd be best to walk.. Although this is not what you want to hear.. consider this..


Example

picture how your mind feels when a girl is throwing herself at you... a girl which you aren't overly attracted to. Focus on how it makes you want her less, you have no respect for her.. it's essentially a turn off....Now for a girl, throw in a lot more insecurity with a radical sense of empowerment (when she justifies how she SOOO does not want to sleep with you, which makes her feel like a woman in control) and you pretty much have how she feels right now.

Now you tell me, what do you do? do you pursue..

in this story.. do you think if that unattractive girl keeps pursuing you.. will that change your mind?

lol, actually a while ago in HS I was in that situation. This somewhat overweight chick who I was friends with kept saying she had feelings for me and I twice told her I like her as a friend. Well after the 3rd time I felt bad and just gave her a chance, haha and I sorta did start to like her because of her personality but it didn't last more than a week. That's when I was this super nice guy AFC though.

You don't wanna be the somewhat fat chick in your situation.. it's not gunna be good..