Don't get me wrong, there are hot! But I'm bit confused since a 20yo Brazilian sometimes look more like a 25yo European... Not a problem at all, I'll go with younger women

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Last weekend

Just a brief update on my last weekend.
I don't have much time, and also there is not much things to say...

Thursday I was feeling a little bit sick, but I went to the usual party anyway.
The situation was not good from the beginning. Very few sets, a LOT of dudes hanging around the place. Not a lot of people was showing up, so the party wasn't even started at midnight (nobody on the dance floor...).

Nothing really happened from my side. I got opened by dudes (lol), there were so much of them and very few girls, I basically felt this was a waste of time... I wanted to leave the party, then I meet one of the flakey girl I had facebook-closed. I was a little pissed off by the party and by my sickness, so she opened me but I didn't really want to talk to her (she has a boyfriend by the way).

Well, the only positive thing about the night is that I got recognized by different people, because apparently I am one of the few guys that can DANCE in this city... the other dudes either don't move at all, either are "monkey" dancers...

Friday I went to Salsa Lessons, just to try. OMG. Seriously, there is something wrong in this city! The count of the salsa lesson: 8 men and 5 women. Where are the girls? I mean, this is SALSA! If I go to salsa lessons in Italy, it would be much more girls than boys! Also, average age was 50. Lol.

I was planning on going out to a club on Friday night, but then I made a stupid mistake that basicly screwed up my entire weekend. I called my ex-girlfriend, because I was feeling bad and emotional, and I didn't have anyone else to call.
I don't want to bother you with the details, but the call basicly wrecked my inner game for the whole weekend. I didn't go clubbing on Friday and I masturbate instead.
What a bummer.

On Saturday, I was determined to go clubbing no matter what. The ripercussion of the ex-girlfriend call were still there. But I managed to get myself up and I got out.
It wasn't the usual Saturday paty as well, it was less people and it was not as good as the other times.

I had few interactions with girls, nothing really mentionable.

I'll only report one interaction that "saved" the night for being a complete useless waste of time (actually I know that a night out is NEVER a waste of time, even the worse night out ever, the feeling of "wasted time" is just a reflection of my inner game achievements boost...)

I opened a girl HV7.5 (body:9 face:6) one week ago, with "I like your earings", she said "thank you", kinoed my shoulder and run away with her friends, so I didn't put a lot of attention to her.

This Saturday, I was seated for resting after half an hour of dancing, and the same HV7.5 girl opened me with "Hey, I've seen you a couple of times here, I guess I should say hi".
I introduced myself, I said I was italian. She was form San Francisco, but with Vietnamese parents. She opened her arms in a way to suggest we should hug.
ME: "Actually, in Italy, when we greet each other we kiss on the cheeks, like this", and I kissed her.
HV7.5: "I have to remember that"
Me: "Introduce me to your friend!"
HV7.5 introduced me to her HB8 friend.
HB8: "Are you Italian? I love italian food!"
Me: "Yeah I know, it is like sex for your mouth"
HB8: Blushing but keeping eye contact with me "Do you cook?"
Me: "Of course I cook I am an awesome cook!"
HB8: "Would you cook for me?"
Me: "Yeah I guess I could, but then it would be the best meal of your life and you wouldn't enjoy any other meal after that!"
At this point (I realize it after) I screwed it up. I should have said "OMG I'm throwing a party tomorrow at my house and I'll cook italian food, do you want to come?" (who cares if the party was just the two of us? LOL). Instead, maybe because of my inner game wreck, I didn't say that. Also, I was not engaging the HV7.5 in the discussion, what a newbie mistake
HV7.5: Out of blue "Ok, F-Italian, have a nice continuation of the party!" And leaving...
I managed to kiss them in the "italian way" before they left.
But, when I kissed the HB8, I tried to do it very slow and sensual.
I noticed something, when I moved from her left cheek to her right, at the point when our face were aligned, she kinda of slightly moved towards me, like for a kiss-close...
But HB7.5 took her hand and drag her away.

Several things about this interaction would have gone completely different if my inner game wasn't hitted hard by my ex-girlfriend, or if I had somewhat more experience in this.

Lessons Learned
- DONT CALL YOUR F-EX-GIRLFRIEND EVER AGAIN, no matter how sad and bogged down you feel. Delete her number, delete her facebook, delete her email. DELETE HER.
- I have to drive the conversation when I want to. When HV7.5 wanted to end the interaction, I should have kept the things going like nothing happened and maybe throw in a routine or something to keep her engaged
- Engage the whole group! And the simplest way to do it is simply to LOOK at all of them. That would have made all the interaction more smooth and the HV7.5 wouldn't have wanted to go...

Mistakes
- DONT CALL YOUR F-EX-GIRLFRIEND EVER AGAIN, no matter how sad and bogged down you feel. Delete her number, delete her facebook, delete her email. DELETE HER.
- Have something "planned" in case the girl show interest in you (in this case it would have been an house party or something). Maybe she would flake, but I'll have a super solid number-close!
- In this case, a re-open of the group later on would have been a good strategy (but the party was big, and ending up, and I've seen them again only at the exit, and they were with guys around I just said them bye and walked away)

Update of the journal
- One of my sticking point is to engage mixed sets. I always assume the dude is her boyfriend or something. This is almost never true, and I know it. Just open the obstacle (the guy!) and work your way to the target!
- I might go for the Lifestyle Challenge, even if the first few days will be a "waste of time". But nothing is really a waste of time... apart from staying home... that is a waste of time!

Haha, love this one! Great way to bring sex into a conversation!

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Ok guys, I am SPAM this for FREE, only for the afecionados of my journal... (I am speaking like a teacher of bootcamp, even if I am a freaking newbie... but I got good ideas, so let's create a good community!)

It is a wonderful way to:
1) Boost the quantity of your number closes
2) Boost the quality of your number closes
3) DHV
4) Reduce flakes

Are you ready for it?

An ADDRESS BOOK

Go out with a freaking address book in your bag, man! Like:



Or if you want to be more stylish



At the moment of the number close, take out your address book and let her fill it!

I personally use one with a quote written on the cover.
I can tell you guys, field tested, it works magically!

1) It gives you motivation! Damn, I am carrying around this address book all day, I have to fill it! Damn! Oh, there it is an HB10, let's go!
2) Who goes around with an address book? The girl will be amused!
3) Once the adress book will start to be filled, it will look like you know everyone in the city! When the girl will put her phone number in it, she will think "OMG this guy rules! How come I've never met him before? He knows all this people!"
4) Some girl will start to draw hearts, or cute little phrases on it near their numbers. When the other girl will fill her number in it, she will see them and feel like you're a man of value!
5) Once you give a girl your address book for her to write on it, she will feel obliged to write on all the fields (so, no lame facebook closing without phone numbers!)
6) It works like a charm! You're literally one in a million guy!
7) The girls will tend to give you much more credit, and will assume you're a super-busy guy with a huge amount of friends. This will reduce the flakes! You don't have that much time for them! They have to show up!

Now, go on your nearest library and buy a fraking address book!

Good sarge!

Good stuff! You're really getting a hang of it but please think about what I wrote previously about slowing things down. When you go up to sarge, walk a bit slower, talk a bit slower. The girls will like this . . . and you will be better able to see little situations you would otherwise pass. That girl obviously spoke HER MIND and ASKED YOU OUT. You could even pause for a few seconds and just smile at her. Silence . . . smile . . . silence . . ."Well, this sounds like fun. I'll call you." - And just hand her the phone.

LOL, everything before that was simply awesome and the way you continued wasn't bad either . . . it's just you lost that window of opportunity. Any how, I can almost hear your cocky voice, "Introduce me to your friend," as if is her obligation to do it . . . Great stuff.

I'm not sure what you think you'll get out of the style challenge but you're way ahead of the curve. Keep doing what you're doing but just slooooow it down, OPEN YOUR EYES and EARS. You will see things that you didn't see before. You will see them lick their lips. You will see them swallow . . .you will see them stare at you in ways you haven't before. Close, close, close.

Hahaha, sex for your mouth, that's a really great comment
I think you did well with these two girls even while thinking about your ex girlfriend. You should have number closed her though, you're carrying an address book with you after all

I like your vision on the address book. Seems to be something that truly DHV, but I do wonder how you carry that around with you. Do you just put it in your pocket, or are you carrying a bag with you all time? I tend to bring as less with me as possible, all the time, but specially on a night out. An address book seems to be too big to just put in the pocket of your pants or jacket.

Yeah, the address book is for day-game.

When I go to the club I usually don't bring it with me...

But maybe I can make it work also in the club, in that case I should bring a bag...

I think I will try it out in field next weekend. The field will give me the answer!
Adress book in the club will mean a different strategy... No dancing, no hanging around in the loud areas, and more sarging in the "quite" places, more conversational skills involved, etc.

After all, Style in The Game mentioned that when they went to Croatia in the field he brought his A-game, and that included a bag for routine-related material, to use in the clubs as well...

It might be a good experiment.

You're perfectly right, kasabi.
I am working on slowing donw, but maybe not as much as I should.
First I wanted to make sure the basic stuff is alright, so once I've internalize the basics, then I can focus entirely on slowing things down...

I noticed I have no problem at speaking slowly. I tried it at home and with girls I was not gaming. I have an accent, and I have been in Canada for few months so I have all the "excuses" to speak slowly (I am searching for the right word, etc)

The date at the mall

play the video as soundtrack for this 5 minutes read!
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Ok, I've just read the AFC Daniel report for his date at the mall, and (how funny?) I had a date at the mall as well this Saturday afternoon.

So, basically, I am gaming a little bit online (since daygame here with the cold temperature is still uncomfortable and a waste of time), and I made some pretty adjustment to my profile on Plenty of Fish, that gave me two number closes this week.
I'm not going into the detail of the online gaming, first because is not my strong suit and second because this is the Field report section!

I also have to say, I went out clubbing on Friday (alone) and on Saturday (with a 50yo "pivot" friend of mine), and they were basically two of the worse night ever.
If it was not for the date at the mall, I would have been a very bad weekend.

Anyway, the girl in the online pictures seemed an HB6.5 or HB7, so I was pretty psyched for this date. BUT When I looked at her for real, she was a solid HB8. Nice face, beautiful ass, not so much boobs, but a great attitude! She should totally change her profile pictures!

The date begin weirdly because I was stuck with my car in the snow in front of her house, and I had to shovel snow for 10 minutes to get out!

First we went to my tailor because I had to get some shirts fixed. I planned this clearly as a DHV. I managed to keep the changing room's door slightly open, so if she wanted to take a peep on me that was ok. My tailor contributed to DHV me, saying "wow those are two 400$ shirts!". They were Armani and Versace, and he was right, they were 400$ shirts. But I bought them used on ebay I paid 70$ each. Plus 20$ each for tailoring them on me! BOOM!

Then we went on the mall.
The date was going very smoothly. I never run out of things to say. We spend most of shopping time in the make-up section of the drug-mart. I made some cocky funny comments, on using very weird color for blush or for lipsticks.

I ran a couple of routines on her, including the cube.

I kinoed her (not too much in my opinion, I could have done more).
Some trick to kino I did:
- You shirt is very nice (touch her shirt/belly)
- Take away an "imaginary" hair out of her face (this is very powerful IMO)
- In a small store, go on the other side of the shop in her direction, touch her shoulder or her back (to let you pass) and go look at some "product"

When I ran out of things to say, I just came up with something like "If you had to go on a desert island and you have only TWO cds to bring with you, what would you bring? No compilations..."

Still, after a couple of hours, I had not created enougth seduction in my opinion.
Sex never came up in conversation (it would have been weird talking about sex with kids around us at the mall...)
For sure it was a nice date for her, she was having fun, but from my point of view there was still the risk of the friend zone, a risk that I totally wanted to avoid.

We were in the last shop of the mall, the date was almost over.

I was thinking: "I have to do it. I have to run some routine for the kiss close. If I don't do it this is going to be a freaking LJBF".

So I went for the trust test. After the trust test I would have asked her to close her eyes and I would have kissed her. That was the plan.

So I told her "I want to run a test on you. Is the trust test. Give me your hands"

But something went wrong! She failed the trust test! I couldn't believe it.
So (unintentionally!) I changed my plan on the run.

I just walked away saying "Oh, ok".
HB8: "So, did I pass the test?"
ME: "No you failed the test. You should have followed my hands but you didn't. The reward of passing the test was a kiss. But I guess you don't deserve a kiss from me today!"

At this point the situation changed completely.
She started to qualify the hell out of her!

HB8: "No, but you know, I don't usually kiss guys on the first dates, because they think it is a serious stuff, bla bla bla"
ME: "Yeah, but I'm from Italy, I'm not Canadian! A kiss means nothing for me. I used to kiss my friends girls all the time as greeting!"

We went in the car. She was still qualifying her.
We switched the discussion from kisses to relationships, and then to SEX.

The trip back to her home was a 20 minutes car drive that ended up being THE MOST DIRTY TALK I HAD WITH A GIRL on a first date.

She was telling me one time she had a FFM threesome. That she's done some lesbian stuff, but now she's not longer into it anymore. I had a boner in my car as I was driving. Her official rank upgraded to HB8.5 at that point.

We started talking about our favourite sexual act and positions.

At the end of the trip, in front of her house, she was describing me a sexual act she had with a Portuguese guy in the most precise little filthy details! She said European do it differently than Americans... she was DHVing me! seriously??? I am almost sure she were fantasizing how would be to do it with me

At the end of the date SHE KISSED ME.

I didn't kiss closed on this date, I WAS KISS CLOSED.

She left me with "Text me!" and went away.

I'm going to wait one or two days and I'll text her.

I will invite her to see a movie at my place. I might be free Wednesday, I don't know yet, I'm a busy man!

Lessons Learned
- This stuff FREAKING WORKS!!!
- on the date I really can see very few minor flaws in my game. Of course I still have to improve a lot and refine my game, but I know the basics are there!

Mistakes
- club-game still hasn't grown a lot. My 50yo "pivot" was useless. Still I made some major mistakes Saturday night and Friday night.

Update of the journal
CLEAN THE HOUSE
TIDY UP THE HOUSE
BUY STUFF FOR THE HOUSE
PIMP UP THE HOUSE

I want to fuck the shit out of her at least as much as she wants to fuck the shit out of me

Hey Italian... This is so inspiring. THANK YOU. This report is an example for my future dates on malls.

I was a bit lost after my Game at the mall. I mean, it was not supposed to be a date but I had the perfect configuration to make it work. She gave me IOIs but has a boyfriend so...

Anyway, you were better prepared obviously! You have style man. I love that "imaginary hair" KINO. I'm writing down the "nice shirt" too. I see you use routines, I've never done it but I think it will improve my game as hell.
That's something I'm affraid too... It's so easy to be LJBF.

What's your kiss-close routine? What is good about it is that even if you have not kissed her, you told her she missed something so she started to qualify herself. And it even allowed you to do a transition to sex talk. Damn. This is magical.

Anyway, I'm learning a lot from you Italian. Glad you have a journal too. Grazie!

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The kiss close routine I was going to run and I changed on the fly was this:

You say "I have to run a test on you. Give me your hands."

If she give you her hands palms up it's the worse scenario, it means she doesn't trust you, you should avoid the kiss close and also the "disqualification option", and work more simple kino on her.

If she gives you her hands palm down, it's a good sign. Now you start moving your hands down up, sideways, wherever. If she follows you and always keeps contact with your hands, she passes the test. At that point you take her hands, position them on your shoulders, look her in her eye and kiss-close her.

If she follows your hands but from time to time she loses contact during the test, you can run the "disqualification option".

Kiss closing in the mall anyway, it looked weird to me, with families and kids running around all over the place. But I had to take a shot... I even think that the "disqualification option" worked out better than an actual kiss close!

Congrats man, great job!! Now, pimp up that house! If you have taken her to all these shops in the mall you should have created yourself an idea about what you want to buy Good luck, fuck the shit out of her!!

Quick Update

I asked ExLesbianHB8 to come to my place for a movie.

She replyed with: "I thought about it and I just prefer to be your friend. I don't think going over for a movie is a good idea"

DAMN! I got friend zoned! I can't believe it!

I wrote her an email.

She admitted there was a sex vibe between us. But she's also dating other guys, and I think this is the true reason why she friend-zoned me.
She clearly stated she doesn't want to date me.
But she definetly wants to party and have fun with me!

So the conclusions in my opinion are:
- This is not going to be smooth as I suspected, since she's dating other guys
- I will continue building up sex vibe with her, I will befriend her friends (jealousy plot? lol), and I can use her as a pivot
- She's sexually very open. I can see us randomly hooking up in the future, but even if it doesn't happen, she a cute girl and I need friends in this city. I actually need friends more than I need some sexual intercourse right now. So there is a positive side of the story anyway...

LOL . . .you gotta love these whacky girls.

1. You offered her a test and threw the issue on HER shoulders. "You're not worthy enough for a kiss . . ."
2. So she pulls everything out of her bag to PROVE to you that she is worthy of a kiss. Essentially, she told you that she's a slut(party girl) and that she is open, open, open for business.
3. You keep your frame (essentially did nothing) so she gives into her emotional needs and pounces on you. (To show you that she's special and and fun and etc . . . so she can feel LOVED by all) "See! Now do you understand that everybody loves me?!?"
4. Then you wait for her to collect her thoughts.

*Obviously, in hindsight, you realize that you missed a 'window of opportunity'. When a girl allows her emotions to take over, you'll want to provide her a path for her to exercise her emotions.

So now . . . only a Couple of possibilities with this:
1. She essentially told you that she was a slut and to 'text her'. What did she expect? Of course any guy is going to call her up for a sex proposition. And of course the knowledge that 'she's good enough' to kiss, have sex with, etc . . . is good enough for her. This was merely a continuation of the game you began.

Or

2. She might actually like you but doesn't like the way things began.(Too quickly with the guy thinking of her as a cum bucket)
First, begin with YOUR GOAL in mind. What is it that you want with her? DO NOT sidetrack your goals due to your perception of the way things are going. Things have hardly even begun . . .

Once you have your goal in mind and you accept for yourself her desires, fears, fantasies in life, you'll be able to get things rolling. You already have a good feeling about this but you ought to know that:

1. She needs to be loved by everybody.
2. She'll go out of her way to make #1 work
3. Once she does #2 however, most guys/girls treat her like a whore. She doesn't like this.
4. So she does #2 but . . . #3 always follows.

^Hardly a unique situation.

OMG Kasabi, I can't believe how truthful is the analysis you gave of the situation!

My only window of opportunity was to chase her in her house and fuck the crap out of her right away. If I had a boner she most probably was excited as well. I had a feeling in that moment, that I should have done it, but then I thought that I could freeze her out a bit and call her later.

What a mistake! Damn!

Now I'm LJBF. Maybe permanently.

Anyway, it is uncanny what level of knowledge for social behavior one can reach practicing this stuff. The more you practice the more you start recognize situations, the more you can make the right decisions at the right moment...

Jesus, I was so close this time! I definately wanted to have sex. It has been 3 months since the last time.

Regarding changing my goal, I have to tell you kasabi, I really need friends in this city, so I don't mind get LJBF few times...

Anyway, lesson learned! Damn, this game is tough! One little mistake, window of opportunity missed, and you're home jerking off like usual!

P.S. Thank you so much kasabi. I know how to continue things with her without getting involved too much, without losing my frame, and above all without losing my mind trying to understand her situations and trying to game her.