Hey guys,

So I am feeling kind of lazy to search through the billion forums to find what I am looking for so Ill just ask. Hopefully you can get back to me with some good ideas!

There is this cute girl at Best Buy, I have seen her twice - made eye contact and big smiles. Never talked to her except saying thank you after she helped my dad. She works there and she was helping my dad with phones. I was usually just doing my own thing and would wonder over to literally check on my dad every once in awhile.

*I would like some ideas on situational openers
-I was basically just gonna tell her I was debating between two phones and get her opinion or
-I was gonna say something really forward, like my dad was in here a few times and you helped him with his phone, and he told me I should meet you! -maybe throw in something like I don't know if its a good investment - what do you think?

*Also would love some opinions on mid game, dhv, etc.? -before i go for the facebook/number
-I looked her up on facebook, her profile is private so i couldnt see much, but her interests are partying and shopping - so I was thinking of going in like mid saturday and during the conversation talk about how I gotta get going because i have a party tonight I have to help prepare for. (FTC)
-I was thinking about mentioning something about highschool as we went to the same one -shes 3 years younger than me. -Shes approx. 20, I am 23. Don't really know what I would say but figured it would give us a common connection.
-I looked up her name and got the meaning of it and origin, etc. so I was gonna talk about that-but dont know if it is gonna come off as kind of stalkerish-because shes gonna be like you just learned my name and you know what it means! I guess I could say I had met this guy one time that had her same name because her name is actually a males name, I know not really attractive on the name but her looks compensate for that - so it would also turn into a neg.

Thanks to those of you that say - sounds like I got it figured out! But I would still like some input, some more conversation - threads. Especially on the DHV - Cause not much I got going on for that above.

*Also number closing - input how should I do it? Remember she is at work - best buy - it is a little slow, but there might be policy or supervisors that could get in the way mentally for her.

Thanks ahead for the insight!

Debating between two phones is a great opener, I'd stick with that. If she pushes you towards the most expensive phone, after she does her pitch, get cocky with her, raise an eyebrow and ask if she gets a commission on this stuff, and if you should believe a single thing shes saying.

I wouldn't be forward, you don't have enough rapport with this girl and you'll blow the set -- keep in mind every other guy has hit on this girl, and you must differentiate yourself to pique her interest and stand out.

Telling her you have a party to prepare for is a nice DHV -- just be prepared to talk about "details" if she asks you about the party -- know where it is, and who is going. Also, be prepared for a reason why she can't come if she asks, because she'll smell the BS if you aren't actually throwing one.

I wouldn't talk about the origin of her name unless the people at best buy have nametags -- it looks try hard to do research on a girls name before you talk to her. She also has to have a fairly common name, You have to play it extremely casual, touching her nametag, and going "Oh, I was watching a documentary on The History Channel about the Origins of Names, and "Mary" means...". This won't fly if she has a name like "Jedediah" (A guys name, I know, but I'm illustrating a point here.) -- nobody normal knows what that name means.

Off the top of my head, other conversational topics --
* why did you lose your current phone that youre shopping for one now? Could have a cool story here
* Explain you were at the mall shopping (Pause if she wants to talk about shopping) and the guys at the kiosks in the middle of the mall wouldnt leave you alone so you could compare phones, so you thought best buy would be a better place to come to.

I wouldnt try to midgame her. Shes at work, shes busy, and shes not focused on meeting a guy -- shes there to make money. She'll give you 15-20 minutes of her time tops, I'd go for a number close and ping her for a party or a gettogether a few days later where you can work more of your magic.

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Thanks for your post!

I like the cocky for my opener. I work on it, and probably re-post my opening game dialogue for further critique. Along with my made up party details, etc.

They wear name tags at Best Buy-her name is Arlen - which is very uncommon, but it is Irish -shes not -she is Mexican. So maybe before or in place of explaining what her name means which is - simply meaning pledge, oath and promise, I could ask why she has an Irish name? - I could tell a story of a friend that I met overseas from Ireland named Arlen - and then transition into - did you now your name means - pledge, promise, oath? - Ask some questions.

I also have a direct - name description -A-Artist, R-Realistic, L- for loud, E-for explosive, N- neat.
-I was thinking I could use this as a cold read and if she agreed to all of them point out how it spelled her name and be like that's awkward - weird, etc.

-Also have some more cold read stuff related to her name that I dont actually have to let her know is related to her name.

I like the phone stuff, and I could probably work in a story -except we dont have kiosks at our mall lol.

Well let me know what you think about my ideas above and can you give me an example of how to go for the number in this situation? Also should I go for facebook, then number? Or number than facebook? or just the number?

Thanks again for your reply

I'd always go for the number before I go for Facebook profile -- it's more intimate. Most girls I know will become facebook friends with any guy she meets. It's a select few that have her phone number. Also, when you collect a number, you usually collect her name one would think, so you can hit her up on facebook, anyway.

A slick way to pick up her number off the top of my head:

"You know, I think I'm gonna go with this phone here. Course, I'm gonna need to know the call quality is good -- I think youre obligated as a salesperson to give me your number to help me test out this phone. What is it?"

That's a solid, direct, and cocky way to score her digits.

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Thanks Tao,

Yea actually was thinking of a line pretty close to that too! Only problem is I am actually not gonna buy a phone lol.

Come at me with another one if you can.

Thanks

Sure, buddy --

You aren't obligated to buy the phone at all. As a matter of fact, I think a funny close to the set would be to have the cellphone in hand, ready to go to the counter to pay for it. Make sure your target sees you -- reach into your pocket, cock your head to the side, with a confused look on your face. Reach in, and pull out your actual cellphone.

"Huh. Well it looks like my phone was here the whole time." Wink at her.

Then, just enter her contact info in in front of her. The beauty of this close is she'll understand why you approached her, so your indirect opener will immediately become direct, but properly calibrated, she'll find it endearing. Think about it, how many guys come up to her everyday with the standard "So, you have a BF? No? Can I have your #?", versus pulling a playful trick on her to get the same info?

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