So I haven't gotten past the texts... sorry minsok

on a positive note I have taken your advice(s)

Her: God afer we broke up i kind of took on your personality...ordering huge coffees and making random jokes and plays on words and acting retarded lol. i guess it's true that two leos never work out cos our personalities are too strong.

Me: Flattered *blush*

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Finally got a call from her... it's funny how you don't notice the obvious mistakes until you ask questions and then they seem so clear.

So a little disinterest went a long way. I had too much pull and no push before so I tried to even it out a bit.

my side of the conversation basically went...

ftc neg neg neg ftc dhv neg neg comp ioi neg dismissed

Don't want to type the whole thing out but I actually had mapped out my game for if she called me.

My chosen frame is "I tried really hard to be a good/nice guy with you but after it broke off I got a chance to be the man I wanted to be". When we broke up things had gotten quite dull for both of us so this ere of excitement is working well for attraction and I think it will set up nicely for the purely sexual relationship.

I think my earlier attempts with her can be attributed to "If you fail to plan then you plan to fail". I have plenty of evidence to show that my game isn't strong enough to just "wing it" at this point.

Any routine suggestions or ways to enhance my frame? Is my frame a solid choice?

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So there have been mucho developments on this topic but I am not sure if anyone cares. I dont want to waste my time typing if no one is interested in helping out with this. Any takers?

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i'm interested, jits, what be happenin?

lot of negs, your only supposed to do 2 and 3 if shes super hot.

A push isnt a neg, its a tease, and a pull is acompliment.

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New to the forum, new to the game in general. But I'm interested to hear the new developments. I thought you played the text game decently, but I'll agree with the other guys in that you displayed too much interest initially. An ex-fiance is an awful lot of baggage. Are you interested in anything more than an FB? Be honest. This girl seems to have some intellect, and if she's super hot why not rekindle the flame? Keep us posted

So here is the scoop.

First answers to the recurring questions.

No, I don't want to be with her as anything more than FB because I have about five good things going right now and she would demand that I drop all of them. Plus, it didn't work for a reason and nothing has changed in those regards.

So a couple nights ago she randomly texts me talking about how she hates how when she gives a guy a blowjob they don't get her back after. This was something I did fairly often in our relationship once things got bad.

I responded "Yes, I used to be a rather selfish lover. I am mostly over that now."

She replies with more complaining.

Me- Well, now I just make sure my lover is taken care of first. Nowadays I am in kind of a dilemma though. I am CLEARLY not a one woman man but I have a hard time getting off with out an emotional connection. Thank god for butt sex.

Her- Whoah! I am def a one man woman when it comes to butt sex. Besides, mine is still broken from you.

Me - sorry about your butt. The conclusion I came to is that it is easier to find a bunch of good lovers rahter than one great lover. A great lover takes too much training and investment.

Her - Well here is a tip for you. Just because you finished doesn't mean you are useless. Use your fingers.

Me - haha that's cool but I don't think I will be needing skills at getting YOU off any time soon. Besides, if I recall we had many more wonderful sexual experiences than we had bad ones.

Her - True. My high score is still 5 and you got me there.

Me - Yep, that was a good night.

Her - Sorry I am just frustrated and venting.

Me - It's cool are you vented?

Her - yes now I have post vent depression.

Me - Why are you depressed?

Her - It's just bad for my self esteem to be sharing this with you.

Me - haha Self Esteem. Whatever you are at least an 8. Just grab Sancho (the nickname I had for her giant pink dildo) and take care of yourself.

Her - I guess he will do.

Me - Well, I would offer but last time I hit on you you got all pissy.

Her - No, that would fuck me up emotionally.

Me - (I think this was baller as hell) Do you still love me?

Her - To be honest I am just not sure. That's the best I can do.

Me - I don't mean to put you on the spot. It's just the only explanation I could come up with for the way you act toward me is either you love me or you hate me. I am pretty awesome so I don't think it's the latter lol.

Her - ha, no I don't hate you.

Her - I am going to bed. sorry I won't bother you anymore.

Me - ha it's no bother. night.

Her - good night.

FAST FORWARD TO NEXT MORNING

Her - Hey do you still have (personal issue)

Me - No since I changed my lifestyle it's been much better.

Her - Well I bought this product that doesn't do what I needed but I thought of you.

Me - well I'll give it a shot.

Her - okay, I'll bring it to you on thursday of next week. maybe we can get coffee or sumpfing (She NEVER uses these cutesy misspellings unless she is flirting)

Me - well I am busy at work on most thursdays but If you can give me some lead time I can block some out for you.

Her - no don't do that for me.

Me - Well don't we feel important? It will be nice to catch up.

Her - kk I will let you know.


So anyway I am pretty sure my freeze out worked and I flipped enough attraction switches with DHV and jealousy plots to secure the obvious interest. My question is how do I overcome the fact that I am sure she is going to rationalize against sleeping with me.

I was thinking of playing the style LMR game. "Oh we shouldn't be doing this, then escalate. Rinse and repeat"

I think that is solid, what about you guys?

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