Hey everyone,

after i found this Forum i thought for a while from which part I think i got the biggest problemes. So I thought about the last few girls I was dating I got stucked when it came to kissing.

Most of the time I am alone with the girls, maybe in a park, maybe at my place, maybe somewhere else but normally not with lots of other people. When it comes to the situation that we are sitting/standing next to each other and noone is talking I always think that this is just the right moment...but I cann't make the move and kiss her.

Today a girl was at my place, we cooked together. After cooking we sat in front of the fireplace and we enjoyed just the watching the fire and a bit of talking...I was sitting there and knew that I would like to kiss her, put my arm around her shoulder...but yeah i was just sitting there keep talking and thought about all the possible reactions, and none of them was a good one...

So guyz, what shall I do? I think I would come over this when I just can do it and get a good response...but when i cann't do it i never can get that response...

What I really would like to know is there a way to figure out that she wants to kiss me or not? So i can just "test" this and then can go in for the kiss...

Thanks to everyone who can help me,
Greetings

i know quoting a dating movie may not be the best pick up advice but its a movie about pick up so hell. go 90% of the way move in close and put ur lips close to hers. 3 things can happen A.) she goes the other 10% *kiss close* B.) she doesnt move at which point you know she wants to kiss so you finnish the last 10% C.) she moves away you act like it wasnt anything and u drive on and try again later. chances are ull get A or B but you lose nothing getting C. A MM (mystery method) kiss close is as follows


You: "do you wanna kiss me?"

she has 3 options A.) "NO" to which u reply "i never said you could you just seemed like you wanted to" B.)"Yes/Maybe" *kiss her* C.) "not now" isolate and go for it


this is one method theres hundreds. personally i like kissing the back of the hand or the neck if i get no response or a positive response i go for it.

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Hi!

I think IOWA’s advice is really good.
When I had problems with this, I also used the line "do you wanna kiss me?".

Doing anything is better then doing nothing.
Learning to show balls, and just make a move is good thing to learn.

And as IOWA already said, testing for signals with KINO is really the way. So like when getting IOIs, I make a move, e.g. brush for a very short time at her breasts (I learned that from a gambler video on youtube). If she’s ok with that I already know that I can kiss her. And later with experience the best way is to just to go for a kiss (without a line). maybe a neck kiss (or such) before.

Girls are always very polite when they do not want to get kissed at that moment. very few exceptions (maybe 1 or 2 out of 100??). Most girls just simile and turn away. It’s a compliment to them, so they are ok with it.

And girls really like kissing and sex. so from a date which involves cooking at my place, I think out of 100 cases there would be many girls wanting sex and kissing anyway.