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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:44 pm 
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Hi all,

I'm new to this forum and I think it's a great opportunity to learn. I signed up after a friend who is very successful with women informed me about PUA. I started reading the website and now I am here to tell you about some of my experiences before joining the website and to show you my progress since joining it. Any help or feedback at any time is welcome and appreciated.

In my youth I have always been a very shy guy, not just meeting girls, but in general. I never had many friends and neither did I have many girlfriends in my life. Often I found myself going to clubs just by myself, doing nothing but standing in a corner watching hot chicks. Sometimes I started chatting with some guys or girls, but I wasted so much time, trust me. I saw random people simply grinding girls that they just met and I started to try the same, which failed in pretty much 95% of the cases. The only girlfriends that I had were hardly better than a 6 and they were girls I had met on-line through some chat-rooms.

Many years later I got introduced to a new group of people. I was overwhelmed by enthusiasm. Basically because the open minded characters within the group. Pretty much all of them didn't mind meeting new people and were so grateful towards me when I first attended an event with them. I started to make friends, loads of friends. I started to feel good and comfortable around people, even people who I would just met on that day. I became more and more social and when moving to another city I was without any friends again. This time it was different, I knew what to do now and within a week I had a decent group of friends. That expanded into a massive group of acquaintances and some of them became serious good friends. Not much later I saw myself organizing massive parties, gatherings and other social events. Always with friends, but also all the time with new people. From being a total social retard I became the social leader of our group. All the girls love me, hug me, kiss me (on the cheeks), introduce me to their even hotter friends and tell me that they wouldn't know what to do if I would ever decide to leave the city. All the guys admire me, consider me as their brother and some even as their best friend. Recently someone told me I'm the master of seduction because of the fact that all girls seem to love me. BUT... there is one big problem. It hardly ever goes further than that.

I have fucked four times in the last year, of which three times with my SPAM in between boyfriends and one time with a completely drunk girl from outside our group that told me to do anything with her as long as I used a condom. I have kissed an additional two girls outside of our group, but that's basically it. I have the feeling that I could do MUCH MUCH more, but I don't manage to do so. Whenever I get big IOIs from girls within the group, also on the first day I meet them, I simply freak out when it comes to the actual kiss. I don't dare to go for it, afraid for rejection in front of all my other friends or something like that. I hear you saying to isolate her and take her a bit away from the group or something like that, but I am totally crap at isolating people from the group as I feel I am obliged to stay within the group as an organizer of all these festivities. But even in case I do manage to isolate her from the group I am still afraid for rejection and for ruining my reputation within the group. Girls within the group kiss/fuck different guys in our group every week, still I don't know what to do.

When it comes to approaching girls from outside our group I am very shy. I never really knew what to do. Some day when me and some friends were in a nightclub I witnessed one friend of me kissing SEVEN girls that night. I was so stunned by this and he talked to me about as if it was no big deal at all. I didn't understand it and I asked him about his secret, to give me some tips on how to act. He asked me for my phone and wrote this website address in there. He told me, check this out and you will get it some day. Later I started talking about the subject with another friend, not mentioning anything about PUA, but then he actually mentioned it to me and as he had a copy of "The Game" he gave it to me. I started reading and became impressed. Now I have the feeling I can improve my skills with women by learning and practicing. This is where my journey starts.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:59 pm 
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My first field experience after finding out about this website was a couple of days later and actually felt like an instant success to me. I was watching some sports game with some friends in a pub. At approximately 75% of the game I noticed a girl standing right beside me. She was all alone, texting someone and didn't look at me. Normally I would not even think of starting a conversation with her, but now that I knew about PUA and already read about some steps to take I decided to open her and asked her which team was her favorite. She looked up and told me she wanted Team A to win the game. We talked a bit more about the game and then she asked me for my name. I answered her and asked for her name as well, in the meantime we shook each others hand and when I squeezed her hand, she squeezed back. When I asked her why she was there just by herself she said she was there with her boyfriend. I was like oh my god, my bad luck again. However she said her boyfriend just went home as he actually dumped her two weeks before and they just met up that night again, but they started arguing again which made him leave. I pretended to feel sorry for her and gave her a hug, which she gratefully accepted. She asked me if I was alone too and I said no I'm not. I introduced her to my friends and let her talk to them for a while. She then moved back next to me, but started texting someone again. I started to talk to my friends who told me I should better talk to her. I said, no if she's interested she'll come back to me after she's finished texting.

Basically I was waiting for her to finish texting and to see what was going to happen. I was a bit nervous as normally in this kind of situation I would go back to her myself and start talking to her again. This time (thanks to the book and this website) I felt like not doing that. A couple of minutes later I felt her hand on my shoulder and she actually asked me to explain some of the rules of the game. Quite a big IOI in my opinion as she was watching the game from the start and I couldn't believe she didn't know the rules. I explained her and we kept on chatting further. She asked me if I had been to Thailand before. I told her no and said I had been all over Europe, North America, some of Africa, but never to Asia, Australia and South America yet. She responded with telling me I should never go to Australia because I would get killed by a coconut. I looked at her and was like WTF? She kept on telling more about it that because of heavy winds coconuts would fall down unexpectedly and right on your head, which would kill you. I didn't really know how to respond and just looked at her with a silly face and just came up with some other things that had to do with coconuts and Australia. Apparently she liked it as she was laughing a lot. She continued the talk about Australia and started to say that Australia is also dangerous because of crocodiles. She came up with a long story about the animals and we looked each other deep in the eyes. I made some funny faces and came closer to her face. I felt like I could have kissed her there, BUT...... of course I hesitated again.

We kept on talking and I asked her about music, and to what places she goes to when going out. She actually named some places that I go to myself as well and I told her we should go together some day. She said yes and I asked her for her phone number. I also asked her for her last name, which she gave me straight away. I asked her if she was using the same name on Facebook and she said yes and you can add me on there. Not much later the game was nearly finished and she asked me where the exit was. I told her she had to climb two stairs and then walk all the way to the other side of the place. As we could only see one of the stairs she asked me where the second one was. I said I'd walk with her to show her. When we were there I gave her a hug and a kiss on both cheeks before saying goodbye. Also here I probably could have kissed her. BUT.... of course I hesitated again. Then I went back to my friends and we left ourselves as well. When I got home I texted her and said it was nice to meet her and that I was hoping she would be home safe shortly. The next morning I added her on Facebook and she accepted me straight away.

I have the feeling there is a lot of potential and that it's just a small step away from me. Even a female friend told me recently that she is surprised that she never saw me kissing anyone. I told her I do get close to women, but that I prefer not to do it in front of my friends, but just meet them in private.

As said above the girl gave me her number and Facebook. I sent her a text message right after but didn't get a response on that. I tried to chat with her once on Facebook, but didn't get a response either. When talking to her in the pub she confirmed she wanted to hang out at a later stage, so instead of calling her/Facebook messaging her, I invited her for two events organized by me on Facebook. She did not attend any of these events. I still have her on Facebook and I still have her number, I just don't know what to do with her right now.


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A couple of days later I attended a house party of a friend of mine. I met a girl there that I never met before. I only talked to her briefly, but number closed her easily. Afterwards I invited her for an event by texting her. I told her she was welcome to invite some of her friends as well. She loved the idea and showed up with her gay friend. I had invited some straight male friends and some other girls as well.

The event went great. It was a pillow fight and we were hitting each and every one of my friends, but mostly I focused on her. Hitting her a lot, spanking her ass with the pillow, and even twice without a pillow. She loved it and tried to find many ways to hit me back, but as she's so small I had to let her hit me a couple of times on purpose. It was funny to see her trying to hit me hard. After a while she left with the gay friend as she had to work again in the morning. I stayed a bit longer with my friends. Before she left she asked me to add her on Facebook, which I did when I got home.

Since then we have been talking a lot on Facebook. We talk about regular stuff and from time to time about sexual stuff. We also talked about me spanking her ass during the pillow fight. I push-pulled her several times and I told her she was a bad girl and that I had to spank her again next time I saw her.

Both of us had no plans on Valentine's Day and she asked me to have some food together and later go to a bar to have some drinks, spending Valentine's Day together, even though being both single. We met up in town, we had our dinner and we were talking a lot. I used KINO on her and everything seemed to be great. At some point she was saying "Hey, what's up with your hand back there?". I removed my hand as smooth as possible, not even talking about it and continue the conversation. We were supposed to go to a bar afterwards for some drinks, but she was tired and wanted to go home. She lives pretty close to me, so we decided to walk together. As I told her she was a bad girl before on the Facebook chat I still had to spank her ass as promised. So while walking on the street I managed to do so. Of course she was surprised, started calling me names and stuff like that, but it was all in a funny kind of way.

Later during the walk home she asked me why I was so nicely dressed. I told her because it was Valentine's Day and she was my Valentine for the day. I said that everyone seeing us together on this day would assume that we are a couple and I wouldn't like to make her feel embarrassed while walking next to me as for my clothing style. She responded with something like: "Well I'm not your Valentine, and I will never be. I would just like to be friends". Here we go, yet another one... hooray!! I got plenty of those girls already, I was hoping for something else this time. I started to decrease my value towards her by defending myself and telling her that I am not looking for a relationship at all. This probably got all the tension away and as we were almost at her place I slowed it down and kissed her goodbye. Another wasted opportunity.


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Every Tuesday night there is this massive outcome as I organize an event to which all my friends are attracted to. Not everyone shows up every week, but everyone shows up from time to time. Some once a month, others once every two weeks etc. These are the events where everyone seems to know me. Every guy greets me, every girl gives me a warm hug and some kisses. I talk to everyone and so do they. Random guys and girls that I've never met before come to do the same. The next time they think I can remember all of them, I can't. It's no problem, they will continue to say hi to me until I do remember them.

I love being in this position. It's very easy to meet people this way. I basically don't have to open anyone, all of them will open me. The lone girl or guy that obviously belongs to someone of our group who doesn't come to me, I will open myself without any problems. I KINO all the girls, I am the man of the venue! However, I still don't get anything done. This was the first time going to this event AFTER finding out about this forum and about The Game.

I started being myself like I have always been, but I decided to focus myself more on the techniques that I've learned from here. Basically I started to KINO a bit more in a sexual kind of way, as well as using the push-pull technique. I made some negative comments in a funny way and it seemed to work really well with this one girl that I already know for more than a year. She is one of the girls that doesn't show up a lot. In fact, for her it was the first time ever to be at that location, I only saw her before at other places. She gave me a lot of IOI's and attention. At some point she needed to go home and I offered to walk her downstairs and to the exit.

I successfully isolated her, had some more talks, holding her close, rubbing her arms, looking deep into her eyes and both of us smiled like this was our moment. I kissed her goodbye on her cheeks and wanted to go for the kiss. I hesitated and just gave her a real quick kiss on her lips and let her go home. I am such a pussy when it comes to this kind of things.

The next Tuesday she wasn't there, but of course loads of other girls were there. There was this one girl I know only for a month now, but she's liking the event a lot and, so she attends pretty much every week. I sat down with her before and did some KINO, but now I felt like giving it an extra go. I went with her the way I went with last week's girl. More intimate KINO and she didn't have any problems with me doing so. I isolated her to get a drink downstairs, while we were upstairs with also the opportunity to get a drink. Two others joined us though and they started to make out. At that moment I was using a lot of KINO and even managed to squeeze her ass, there was no rejection. Then her phone rang and she went into the crowd to find her friend. I waited for about 10 minutes, but she didn't come back and I got in interactions with other people. I will probably see her again next Tuesday.


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In between there was a weekend, and of course I go out in the weekends as well. We started off in a house party, where there were not that many girls. I managed to talk to pretty much all girls that were there (I didn't know any of them) and I got a Facebook account of a Spanish girl that was leaving the country next day. *Sarcastic hooray!!*

Later on we went to a pub/club. We in this case are me, one of the two friends that told me about the game, and another guy who we informed about the game as well. The last guy hasn't read anything about PUA yet, but he seems to be willing to progress with me, which I think can be a very good thing in the end. My friend who told me about the book isn't into PUA anymore, but is willing to help me and the other guy. That night he didn't really want to show us what he is capable of, as he is aiming for a girlfriend now instead of getting laid. What he did do was giving me and my buddy challenges. He pointed out some HB's that we had to open and see where it went from there. Each of us had some conversations going, but not that much of a success and some of the girls he pointed out to us were too old or totally not my type. I found it very hard to do challenges like this with specifically pointed out girls instead of picking some myself. However if I didn't do the challenges I wouldn't do anything at all.

That brings me to the next day. This time both guys that told me about PUA were there. We were in a crowded and very loud nightclub. I was not able to make ANY conversation with a girl all night long. I felt like such a pussy. My friends were the alpha males and got a lot of attention from the girls, by almost doing nothing. The girls came to them, instead of the other way around. I saw how much body language and a great smile can do a lot of good stuff. As I felt very shy myself, I decided to just watch them at play for the night and take it as a learning process.


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Earlier this week I went out for my first day sarging activity. I wasn't necessarily out to sarge, but when I was done doing the things I had to do, I had some extra free time left. I was hungry and went for some food at Subway. While I was in line two girls HB7 queued behind me. I checked them out, but didn't say anything to them. I don't think they noticed me at that time, at least not in the way of having a conversation. After paying my food I went to sit down and started eating my sandwich. Not much later the girls did the same at the table across from me.

They started talking to each other and one of them turned her head towards me for a second and then turned back again. A few seconds later the other one did the same, smiled at me and started talking to the other girl again. I smiled back at her and

Me: Hey, what's up, why are you smiling at me?
She: Ohh.. no nothing I was just talking to my sister. Yes, I was looking in your direction, but that's just it.

I don't really remember what I told her after that, but we kept the conversation going. As the tables were a bit far from each other she invited me to come over and sit next to them so we could talk more easily. So it turned out that they were sisters, one of them living here and the other one on holidays to visit her sister. I focused more on the sister who was traveling, and tried to neg (avoid contact) with the other one, as she was my target. I complimented the sister on her nose piercing and negged her about the visible hole from her lip piercing that she wasn't wearing. The only times when I talked to her sister was when the traveling one didn't understand me well enough and asked for a translation.

Then when the one living here started the conversation with me about some locations that she wanted to visit I started to focus on her. I gave her the information she requested and did some push-pull tricks with her as well. She had a necklace that was bungling around every time she talked. She bent over a lot showing me her lovely cleavage. My hand reached for the necklace to check it out more closer, giving me an even better view of the cleavage. The conversation continued and it could have taken for much longer, but I felt it was time to move on.

Me: Sorry, I'm in a hurry, I have to go. Can I have your phone number?
She: Sorry, I can't because I don't know my number and I don't have it with me.
Me: Oh that's a pity, so that means we will never hang out again until we meet randomly again.
She: If you want, you can have my Facebook.
Me: Sure, why not

After that I kept talking a little bit longer, before saying goodbye. I gave the sister a nice handshake with a smile. The one living here I gave a handshake as well, but I turned her hand and started playing with her fingers a bit, while smiling at her. She smiled back, and I kissed her hand while saying goodbye.

Back home I added her on Facebook, but as of today she didn't accept me. This could be because her sister is visiting her until the end of the week and it's just Saturday now. They were thinking about a short trip somewhere else, which was why they were asking me for suggestions. I feel this could still work out somehow.


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A couple of days ago I was at a house party, where I interacted with a girl I know for about 6 months now. I hardly ever see her, we didn't even talk much there that night either, until she came to me and held my arms when talking to me. I never felt attracted to her at all, and I still don't feel like that, but I had the feeling I could practice on her now she was talking to me like that. So the conversation went on and I started to KINO her, putting my hand on her back and stroking it from time to time. I looked deep into her eyes and showed much more interest in her than ever before. Apparently she noticed that and went very direct on me.

She: Are you flirting with me?
Me: What makes you think that?
She: Well, your hand, your eyes and the way you talk to me.
Me: Ahhh, that makes you think I am flirting with you? (I was shocked because she was so direct)
She: Yes, am I not right?
Me: Well, I don't know, that is for you to find out.
She: Well, it seems like it.... and if you are flirting with me, I would feel flattered.
Me: Oh really? (aiming for the kiss)
She: *laughing* (she turned her head aside)

Then we moved to another location and I didn't talk to her anymore, until she came to me. We never got back to the flirting point though as I felt being played with. Maybe I should have pushed it, but I really didn't know what to do.
So first of all, I'm not attracted to her, but if I could get the kiss I would have felt satisfied about my practice. Now I felt really weird, as I was kind of rejected a kiss from someone I don't even fancy. On the other hand she might have wanted to kiss me, but wanted to play on with the game before doing so. This was really confusing for me.


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Yesterday me and the guy that hasn't read The Game yet, but who is willing to learn PUA stuff went on sarging in a pub/club together. We came up with a nice idea. I pretended to be a business man who works for a large company, having a high position within that company. The story was that I had just arrived in the country and that I would only stay for a week. My wingman would be someone I had met a couple of months ago in my own country and now that I am here, he would show me around. We opened several sets that night with this particular story.

I talked to a lot of girls that I would normally never talk to in a club without being introduced to them by someone else. That was surely a big win. However nothing sexual happened at all between. Not between me and the girls, not between my wingman and the girls. There was just a little piece of KINO, but nothing serious to mention actually. It felt good and weird at the same time.

Good because I talked to these girls that I normally did not talk to, weird because I could do nothing to these girls, what I can do to other girls. I guess this is something that needs a lot more time. The only real thing we can do is keep on practicing.

That is it for now: All my stories from the previous two to three weeks are up-to-date now. Tonight will be the next opportunity. From now on I will keep you updated with whatever is going to happen. I hope you are enjoying reading my adventures, even though not as successful as many other people on this website.


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Hey there. I'm glad to see your journal FR_1978!

You're already having nice interactions... It took me much more time to finally have this kind of flirty conversation!

I hope more experienced members of the community will come and give you a hand!

Keep it up.

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Hey there. I'm glad to see your journal FR_1978!

You're already having nice interactions... It took me much more time to finally have this kind of flirty conversation!

I hope more experienced members of the community will come and give you a hand!

Keep it up.
Thanks Daniel, I am hoping for the same. I really do need to get some tips as I am not able to do it. Last night again... GRRRRR... the field report is coming up.


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Brazilian Party - Proud of myself, still not satisfied

As soon as I start writing this it's 2pm, I'm awake now for about 2 hours and I'm still shivering from last night. WOW... this was good, this was getting myself into the right direction. For some moments I felt I was the man, I still wasn't though, but boy did I have a good time.

Yesterday I had two parties lined up. The first one was in a bar and I was meeting some friends there. The second one was a house party of a Brazilian friend of me who is on her way back to Brazil as we speak. I didn't stay long at the party in the bar as for me the Brazilian girl was the most important thing of the day. I wanted to see her again and have a good time with her again before she left. In the bar I met some friends, catching up with them, it was boring as not many people had arrived yet, but for me this was the only way to combine both parties. By the time it became interesting and more crowded I left to the house party.

The girl leaving back to Brazil is T:HB8. She is living with another 4 hot Brazilian girls (J:HB7.5, B:HB9, M:HB8, P:HB7) who I consider to be really good friends of me. I'm visiting them there quite a lot and I see them in many other places. When I entered the house there were about 4 guys that I knew and another 4 that I didn't knew. All 5 Brazilian girls living there were present, as well as A:HB9, a girl that I've seen once before, R:HB9, a girl I had never seen before and another four HB7-8 I had never met before. This was going to be fun!!

As soon as J opened the door I gave her a big warm hug and some kisses on her cheek. She took my hand into the room and screamed out loud towards T.

J: TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT, look!!!! FR _1978 is here!!!!
T: FRRRRRRR I missed you so much!!! (she comes over, gives me hugs and kisses)

We start talking a bit, but before I know, also B, M and P come over to do the same. Two friends I brought with me who didn't know anyone on the party were flabbergasted. The next one to come over to say hi to me was A. She repeated the same gesture as the other girls, giving me hugs and kisses. She looked into my eyes and tells me how good it is to see me again. At that moment I started to realize I had seen her once before, but I didn't remember her name. I went over to J and asked her if she could help me remembering about who A was again. She did and I knew I was on a mission.

Besides socializing with the girls I already knew, the guys I brought myself and with A, I also started to socialize with the other girls and guys in the house. I introduced myself to all of them, had conversations with them, I went KINO with all the girls and guys, shaking their hands, giving high fives, making them laugh, giving hugs and kisses on their cheeks (of course only with the girls). I was the man and everyone knew it. When I was standing in the corner talking to one of the guys A came over and started the conversation with that guy, who's name was O.

A: bla bla bla (Portuguese language)
O: bla bla bla (Portuguese language)
Me: Heyyyyyyyy, stop talking Portuguese, I don't understand it.
O: Oh, I'm sorry, by the way this is A.
Me: Yes, I know this is A haha, I met her already in another party.
O: Ohh I didn't know
A: Hahaha (gives me a kiss on my forehead)

I put my hand around her waist and we start talking. From that moment on I had the feeling I could to anything to her that night. One of the first things I did was telling her that we should hang out again soon, so I told her to put her phone number in my phone, which she did. During the talking, we danced a bit, I touched her face, she pressed her boobs into me, we hugged, gave each other kisses on the cheeks, forehead, I was even allowed to touch her ass. Of course I didn't only focus on her, but also still went to hang out with the others, and so was she. Later on we were dancing and when she pressed her boobs into me again I was stroking her back and went up with my hand to pull her hair. I saw this really horny face dancing in front of me. I felt tonight was gonna be my night.

When I came back from the toilet I saw her smoking by herself outside in the garden. I came over for a talk and wanted to take it to the next level. If she was going to respond the same again as she did inside the house, this was going to be my first kiss close since I joined this website. We snuggled into each other, and then we got interrupted by one of my friends who came outside to smoke as well. I could kill him at that moment, but of course I didn't do it. :) We talked and later on more people came outside and I went inside again. About an hour later I saw her going for a smoke again, so I went outside a little later as well and there was my friend again too. When he left to go inside she told me the following.

A: FR what are you doing here?
Me: I'm here to talk to you of course.
A: Yes, but why? I wanted to kiss your friend and now he's gone inside.
Me: Oh, you wanted to kiss him?
A: Yes, but he didn't want to kiss me.
Me: Ahh, OK, so uhmmm why was that?
A: I don't know, he said there was something (I told him that she was my target, so he wouldn't do anything to her that night)
Me: Well, maybe he doesn't think you are attractive
A: ...... (being quiet, no response at all)

At that moment more people came outside to smoke again. I felt weird. I was thinking she was totally into me that night and then she tells me right in front of my face that she wanted to kiss my friend???? I was like WTF??? Seriously.... I didn't know what to do. I talked to another friend about it, the one who told me about PUA. He told me to chill out a bit and talk to her again a bit later. So I went inside and started talking to other people again. After a while I saw her sitting on the couch and there was an empty spot next to her. She was talking to some other guy. I sat down next to her, and she said hi. I said hi back and ignored her for a while by looking towards the other side.

She started the conversation with me again and I responded this time. We didn't talk about her wanting to kiss my friend again, we were talking about other stuff. Before I knew it we were going KINO a lot again. Holding each others hand, playing with our fingers, stroking her hair etc. Then one of my Brazilian female friends wanted to dance with me, so I stood up and did that. Not much later I saw A passed out on the couch, sleeping. Damn..... going that far with an HB9 and she simply falls asleep.

I was wondering around, talking to some people when I noticed R, the other HB9 mentioned above. I had talked to her a bit during the night, but not that much. She was all by herself on another couch and this was the moment to get to know her better. I sat right next to her and we started to talk. Within a few seconds we were playing with each others fingers. She was smiling a lot, I was touching her legs, but when I started to stroke her legs she pushed my hand away. I did it another two times later on, with the same result. Still I could play with her fingers and touch her pretty much where I wanted to do it. At this point people started to leave the party and came over to say goodbye. I started to feel tired myself as well and at some point I found myself sitting on a chair being exhausted. Not much later I left. I didn't number close R, which I felt bad about, but this morning when I woke up I saw a Facebook request from her, which I gladly accepted. She is soooooooo hot!! Looks like she's got a boyfriend back in Brazil though. Not that this would stop me if I had the chance.

No idea where to move on from here with these two girls yet. I feel something is possible, but I have that feeling all the time. Just mister AFC here doesn't know how to take it to the next level! Am I a retard or what??


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Funny!! This one HB7 I met a couple of months ago and never saw afterwards started to chat with me on Facebook. I tried to meet her a couple of times again before, but she was always very busy. I had no more intentions with her anymore, so when she started to talk to me I had no real interest in her. I decided to give it a bit of a Facebook gaming try :) See here the result.

Girl: Hi
Me: Hello ;)
G: How are you?
M: doing very fine... just insecure about my future here. I might leave in 2 weeks
G: really??why?
M: bla bla bla
G: bla bla bla
M: bla bla bla
G: bla bla bla
M: bla bla bla
G: bla bla bla
M: still very busy?
G: not as much as before
M: that sounds good, so we can meet up?
G: haha, probably :):) but dancing most days now instead!:):)
M: dancing? what kind of dancing?
G: ball room dancing
M: ok, so when would you be available?
G: hmm, not sure yet. dancing monday, tuesday, and wednesday and then going to sweden on thursday
M: well you gotta be quick... i am a busy man too :):)
G: haha. i have no doubts about it
M: maybe you should skip dancing one night to meet up with me. you will regret the fact that you consider ballroom dancing EVERY night more important than meeting me one night
G: haha... hmm. my dance partner wouldnt be happy if we dont practise
M: well I can not say I won't be happy if I don't see you, because I know I will be happy anyway. But still I would like to spend some time with you ;);)
G: haha, but what about when i will come back from sweden
M: when is that?
G: 1st march
M: I should be still here then yes
G: cool! lets try to meet then!
M: You know we will be in the busy club that night right?
G: Yes yes :) :)
M: so you want to meet me in front of 100 others without getting to know me again
G: Haha, no probably not
M: so we will meet on wednesday instead
G: lets try
M: try? lets just make the appointment
G: haha, wow, you are very northern european
M: in what kind of way?
G: organized
M: not that much, i just don't let you get away with it :):) you have been running away from me too long. the loose way of approaching you doesn't work, so I have to be strict with you
G: hahaha and you think that would work? ;);)
M: didn't you say yes to meeting on wednesday? seems like it did work
G: i think it will :):)
M: that sounds better, start becoming nice instead of being the bad girl :):)
G: haha, i was never bad
M: you were, by hiding from me much too long, you still have my number?
G: of course, u still have mine?
M: no i deleted you of course, bad girl
G: hahaha, well then,its gonna be hard to meet
M: why? you got my number... or you can give yours to me again
G: hahaa, u seriously dont have it?
M: of course I have it sweetie ;);) don't worry. what are you gonna do in sweden?
G: celebrate my birthday and see my family!
M: bla bla bla
G: bla bla bla
M: bla bla bla
G: bla bla bla
M: bla bla bla
G: bla bla bla
M: im not that bad in geography :):)
G: haha, no not at all
M: i'm bad in other stuff though
G: haha, like?
M: uhh sexual stuff ;);) (I wanted to take the conversation to a sexual part, but had no idea how to do it and came up with this)
G: pff, lets not go there
M: no i need to avoid that not to embarrass myself.
G: i do have a boyfriend dont know if i mentioned
M: I don't think you mentioned, but I also never asked you if you about it :):) why do you bring that up now by the way?
G: because what u brought up haha
M: what does the fact that i'm telling you that I'm bad in sexual stuff have to do with you having a boyfriend? I never talked about having sex with you did I?
G: haha, true, ok :):)
M: why would you assume that I wanted to have sex with you? you're not even my type :):)
G: i didnt assume i just didnt want to meet with you withput u knowing i have a boyfriend. it wasnt just due to the fact that u brought up sexual dilemas ;);)
M: what kind of difference would it make? :):)
G: for some ppl it does, for some it doesnt, and i dont know u that well, so just wanted to make sure
M: fair enough ;);) so i can stop fantasizing about you now yes? :P:P
G: hahahhahha
M: damn... it's harder than I thought :(:(
G: what?
M: to stop thinking about you :):) ahhhhh it's working now... you're almost out of my mind :):)
G: haha, very funny
M: just kidding :):) hey, i gotta go get some food
G: ok
M: bla bla bla
G: bla bla bla
M: bla bla bla
G: bla bla bla
M: bla bla bla
G: bla bla bla
M: cool, so enjoy sweden honey
G: thanks! see you when i get back! take care and best of luck with that photoshoot? ;);) when is it?
M: saturday
G: and what is it for?
M: bla bla bla
G: bla bla bla
M: bla bla bla
G: bla bla bla
M: are you interested in some pics? maybe you will be my type if I photograph you properly :):)
G: hahahha, no im not a bit fan of being in front of cameras, i like taking pics but i did modeling before
M: i see :):) well we could talk about photography on wednesday or some other days
G: cool! would love to! love taking pics!!
M: we should, but i don't wanna be rude, but i am really hungry let's talk again soon
G: bye bye
M: bye bye :):)

So, for months I wasnt able to meet her and now I find myself being capable on taking her out. Not in a group full of people, but just me and her! I am so happy with this website. Thanks everyone!!


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Monday February 21st, night club full of students

Monday night two of my friends asked me to join them to a night club full of students. This would be another test for me to see how my newly adapted game would work in a crowded place where I hardly know anyone. My game seems to be working pretty well when I have a lot of friends with me and I have the feeling I just have to push myself a bit more to get the final outcome. When it comes to locations where I hardly know anyone I just blow it all the time.

This Monday was no difference. There were a shitload of girls in short dresses dancing and walking around and I didn't do shit. When my friends both went for a smoke (I'm a non smoker) I tried to open a set of 4 girls, but as one of them was already amazingly drunk all other three gave all their attention to the health of their friends and a minute later they dragged her into the toilet to see if she was going to feel better.

On the dance floor I tried to interact with girls a lot trying to make eye contact and to smile at them before approaching, but basically nothing happened. Not sure if it was because of my body language, my dancing skills really suck, so perhaps this is a place for me to avoid, even though I do like to be on it from time to time, just to have fun. It doesn't seem to be the place for me to attract girls yet.

I went to the toilet and saw two girls sitting down at a table and I wanted to approach them. They stood up immediately and walked away, ouch... It wasn't that crowded at all and I didn't try much more that evening. Feeling myself a bit down as both my friends (who don't know anything about PUA) ended up kissing some other chick during the night.


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FR, to tell thr truth I envy you because you have a big social circle, so you have to do very few work in order to meet girls.
I just moved to an other continent and it is as hard as hell to biuld a social circle during a -25C winter... Hopefully the temperature is going to raise soon!

Anyway, one thing I've noticed in your post, and it's about kino.

A lot of people has issues with kino because they don't apply it, you seem to have the opposite tendency... you exagerate in kino.
I would never touch (in the sense of grab) a girl's ass before I've kissed her.
Even touching (grabbing) the legs, in a non-high energy environment, is too much, I would do it only after the kiss.

You can come up as over-touching guy and the girls would feel overwhelmed and uncomfortable.

Kino has to be natural, funny and sensual. The girl shouldn't even actually notice it! It should feel super natural!

I don't understand your problem in kiss closing. I would have more problem grabbing some girl's ass than kissing her...

My advice would be, study some kiss close routine and try out some of them...
Kino arms, hands, shoulders, neck, face, waist, back... Eye contact, smile and BOOM, kiss close. After the k-close, feel free to grab the girl's ass :-)


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Tuesday February 22nd, Feeling like a king again, but actually not even a prince

Tuesdays are always good for me. I am the main person of our group and surely get the most attention of all the guys and girls. I was already chatting with some male friends when A:HB8 (not A:HB9 from the Brazilian party) showed up together with her friend D:HB7. I had never met D before and A introduced her to me straight away and started chatting with my friends, while I started the conversation with D. D and I got into quit a long talk in which we shared some common interest as well as some other interests and ideas. The conversation was really nice and in the meantime I negged her a couple of times, while responding back with something positive. All seemed to be going very good and in the meantime other male and female friends came to me to say hi and I could see that she was impressed about the fact that all people that arrived came to me to say hello. I collected her phone number really easily, complimented her on her jewelery, but we got interrupted by friends all the time and I also felt the need to talk to others. Later during the night we caught up again for a bit, but nothing seriously happened.

While talking to that girl, F:HB7,5 (the one I was talking about in my February 19 post) sent me a message on my phone, asking if she should come along or not. I told her to do so and not much later she was there. Great... started talking to her... a LOT... took for several hours even though we were interrupted by others quite a lot as well, every time we managed to find each other again. Everything was there, IOI's push-pull, KINO etc. I tried to isolate her from the group a couple of times by going for a drink and such. This worked, but we always ran into others that I knew and we couldn't get a moment for ourselves. When she left I took her downstairs again like 2 weeks ago, and again this time, there was no kiss.

I went back to the group, socialized with everyone and got in a nice conversation with A:HB8 (see today's intro). I had been talking a lot to her friend that night, but not much with her yet. I basically know her for a couple of weeks now and I know she had been kissing with a friend of mine before, who actually came for a short visit and who wasn't here anymore. She showed a lot of IOI's and I was on track again. She really wanted to dance with me, so I did and I felt the tension grow. I wanted to kiss her, but all my friends were still surrounding me. When we were sitting down again I told her that I would love to get to know her better as we only met up in crowded places so far. We agreed on meeting each other this Friday, just the two of us. Hopefully there I can finally get myself that kiss (or more), for which I have been waiting so long.

The day after I went to a Brazilian party, but I did not interact with strangers at all. I didn't really feel like doing it, but while writing that I think it's a lame excuse. I should have at least tried a couple of sets to practice.

So for now... I hope my "date" for tomorrow will be successful.


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