I hardly ever fall sick enough to not just go about my business, but whenever I do my body seems to tap out the second the weekend starts. Good stuff. Anyway, lets get something at least a little constructive going, anyone staying home tonight as well and want to spit out some thoughts?




'Getting Psyched' - VS - Constructing state in-field
I'd like to write something on the whole idea of 'getting psyched' before going out. I used to do this and I know quite a few guys who still swear by this today. It's about getting yourself in a very social, high energy, active and positive state before going out.

I think the idea is based on the thought that if you don't set your state right before going out, once you get there there's going to be so many external influences pulling on your state that you'll lose control and getting into the right pick-up 'zone' will be much harder. I suppose when looking at the first few approaches of the night this principle could definitely work to your benefit, relative to the alternatives.

However;
When you're going it with 100% enthusiasm and positive vibe, where can you go? It's impossible (~) for you to get even happier and higher energy than you were before going out, so the only direction your state has to go is down. Also, the things that got you 'psyched' are no longer present (Music you love and you and your buddies doing whatever gets you there). Those first approaches of the night'll go smoother, but how about an hour in, where would your state and game be at? How has it progressed throughout the night? Edit: +No momentum?


Alternative:
Q: Do I want to go out?
A1: No --> You sure? --> Yes --> Don't go out.
A2: Yes --> Go out;
Go out with the state / vibe you have at that time, while preparing just let it progress naturally until you arrive at wherever you're going to sarge.

Then comes in the beauty of pick-up, set #10 isn't going to know about set #1, so it won't matter if set #1 won't show you blasting out a great vibe and controlling the set perfectly. Use those first 30 to 60 minutes of the night to construct your vibe and state in-field. (Working under the assumption you're not just learning pick-up here- your vibe, even if it's below average, should still get you somewhere in set)

Thoughts?

-ZeroValley

Well, yeah. I'm just browsing the forum and still awake (check my last post to see why haha). But I think this i very interesting.

I was sargin with mr. free in Amstertdam about 5 months ago. And when I was asking him wich bar to go to he said something strange (at least to me).

Bucc: so let's see: We have the Iris pub, the club, the normal bar with the band...
Mr. Free: gee, I really don't know. I think the Irish pubs can be good to get in state you know...

I was actually quite surprised, because I never looked at it like that. If I go out sarging. I put on my nicest clothes and stuff and just prepare. If I feel I'm stressed or a little depressed. That can be normal after a busy week I think. I will turn on some music I like or do stuff that would relax any person in any situation.

My point is this. Being a PUA we tend to overanalyze. When I was an AFC, I had no AA, because I did not know it existed. My problem wasnt the fear of approaching... It was the way I approached and not knowing how to proceed.

No I notice myself analyzing sets and neglecting the 3second rule. It shows that knowing about pickup can actually be harmful to your effort.

Now about state:

When Mr. Free made his comment. There was more gonig on. I always like it when you hava a wingman that you just take turns with approaching. So you can coach and judge each other. But he kept talking about state, but he wasn't "in state" he kept saying this and did a minimum in approaching. And the whole "wings hitting it hard" thing went down the drain.

The point is: don't think about it. Have a ritual that makes you relaxed and in a good mood. Not just for pick-up, but for an exam, a visit to scary grandmother or whatsoever. Just don't overanalyze this part of gaming. I think that is just a waste of time.

I'm not trying to be the natrual here. I love MM and believe in scripted solutions for in field. But when it comes to governing your own "state" (if there is one, and wheter it is relevant) you should be able to distance yourself and be the comfort builder of your own PUA personality.

An example.

I go sarging at 20:00 PM.

I start my ritual at 18:45. I turn on some really loud music. I like heavy metal. I headbang and go nuts jumping through my room and being totally unnatractive I guess. But it gets my blood pumping. I take shower, and even there I am still airguitaring and headbanging and singing high pitched lyrics like I am a 2 months old pig getting catrated. I don't give a fuck and go nuts with my own self. I think this is a good thing.

After the shower. Music is still on. I select songs I know well and of wich I know in what kind of mood they will put me in. Sometimes I need an angry song, a love song, an encouraging song or a song that has some arrogance.... So I use music perhaps to manipulate my mind... I put on my clothes. Shave, do my hear etc.

Then I hit my car at about 19:30. If I need to call my wing or whatsoever I do so, make some jokes and just be relaxed. Listnen to some more music.

As you can read. I govern my state and use a very powerful hypno-tool... wich in this case is (metal) music, which my brain really approves of...

The point is, that in the example, even if I would prepare myself to visit my grandparents in stead of going sarging. I would probably do the same, because I like it....

State is like the spoon in the matrix....

THERE IS NO SPOON!

you are a man in a bar. and you are looking at a woman in a bar. Just approach her.

I know this is easier said then done. But I really think this is the best view I can give you.

I really hope you will heal well. Because women need good PUA's in the right state

Sorry if my writing is a bit crappy. I just had a lowsy date and needed some wine to get through the night!

Greetz

Buccaneer

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I could not tread these perilous paths in safety, if I did not keep a saving sense of humor. -Admiral Horatio Nelson

When I approach I just put myself in a good mood, positive state of mind.

Try not to put too much pressure on yourself for an approach. Unwanted pressure = Higher tendency to fuck up.

The less you give a shit the less you will be disappointed.

Very interested in this. My day game success is entirely dependant on my mood. I'm still not sure how to reliably get myself in the that confident chatty mood necessary to do PU.