Your day game Kino is fine by my standards. If you get a number, you have implied enough attraction for a first meet. On the dates, you'll find that due to the time factor alone, your KINO oppurtunities will arise more frequently, and you will have to step it up. You can't really meet a girl on the bus and talk about her underwear preferences unless it is the right girl. The biggest part of my sexual implication during the first time I meet a girl is usually via what I am FEELING when I am holding eye contact, if that makes sense? I feel like I am sexually attracted/charged while I look at them, and they seem to reciprocate. Also, you can FEEL a sexual hug/goodbye kiss/hand shake even. Think about the nature of your standard everyday french goodbye? Is it sexually charged? Can you make it sexually charged?

Body language is a dance, and a good ALPHA always leads.

Some of the more intuitive girls can tell if you are a bit nervous or too aware of what you are doing, so be forewarned. This might be off putting if you come off too contrived. A good rule of thumb is, the hotter the girl, the more self aware you will be, the more contrived your body language will be, at first anyways, until it becomes second nature to be sexually implicative via everything you do. DON'T think you can just eye fuck a ten right off the bat, she will know you are nervous. Wait until your sexuality becomes more natural.

To sum it up, you can escalate yourself at the same time as you escalate her, flip her switch, watch her reaction and mirror her arousal, always being just one little bit higher on the dial.

AFC Daniel,

Sweet. You're last interaction with the girl in the bus is what I would consider 'solid escalation' for day game. You've made your intentions clear and yet left enough room for her imagination to run wild . . ."Wow, that guy . . . I think he really likes me. Maybe he's just friendly . . . Maybe he's just being French! I don't know! . . . He probably likes me! . . ." - This is very, very good.

^This is what I had in mind with my previous post. You didn't overtly touch her every where. You didn't force sexual topics, and yet, the next time you meet her for the date, I am telling you . . . you could plant kiss right on her lips because your dialogue here went beyond 'logistics'. (I do this and you do that and I like cakes and you like cookies and the weather is good for both of us, blah, blah, blah.)

*You created a team between you and her. (Others were watching you interact)
*You planted future meetings in her head.
*"If he's hugging and kissing me when we FIRST MET, what's next???"

@Tweeby, There are many ways to do ^ but if what you have in mind is kino, then Insert offered some great advice. "Escalation" doesn't always mean louder and more boisterous. You can pretend you don't hear her . . . but you can also simply turn YOUR volume down and smile as if you've just realized something. She'll be the one to close the gap to hear YOU better.

Good point. Actually that's weird because Facebook is not even the first social network here. I think it's Orkut or Hi5... but since the two girls I've approached are studying in Business Schools, they do have a Facebook account.

But indeed, why asking for my Facebook and not my phone?

I thought about a security concern. I've approached two upper class Brazilian girls. Little Miss Sunshine (LMS) is from one of the richest part of the city and goes in the best university of South America (damn I love that). I have less information about the other one, but she lives in a damn good neighborhood too. As you know, security is a real concern in Brazil, especially for the upper class. Maybe getting my Facebook seemed safer. On the other hand, I did get the number of LMS and I'm 100% sure I could have the number of the other girl...

So in the end I just think it's because I'm a foreigner. My Portuguese is not bad at all but since I opened them by asking if they spoke English, the logical thing to do is to ask for a Facebook account: better than email and there's more chance that I have a profile than a cellphone (no cellphone for LMS and I told the other one that I have a phone after she asked me for my Facebook).

No cultural thing here I think.

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Yeah, I'm slowly getting better at it. Gotta practice more but logictics are a bit complicated here. My French goodbye could be way more sexual. I'll work on that.
My body language could be better too I think. Practice will help me to fine tune that. Got you for the mirror escalation, I need to escalate the sexual tension in me, but I'm missing that right now. I'm missing that urge to fuck her... Don't know why. Yet, I'm becoming good at being funny. Sexual state will be next step.

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Exactly. That's what have been in her mind I think. I liked that.
Yes I'm really happy about this interaction. I need more approaches like that to better tune my game. But I think I'm more in the funny thing than in the alpha stuff (for now). She has not added me on Facebook for now though. She'll do, I wait.
I like the volume down and smile thing: make her wonder what is happening and ask questions. I'm writing that down in one of my notepad.

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Hi Daniel,

I have been reading your journal from the very beginning since a couple of days and I got really excited about it. There is so much progression going on that I would like to see if I will get that much progression myself as well since joining this website.

At the moment I am only on page 9 of your experiences, but I love it a lot. I will keep on reading everything and I will keep on posting my own adventures as well. Keep it up buddy

Thanks man! You can't imagine how much this kind of message motivates me!

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Cool! I just finished writing down my experiences so far since joining this place.

Feel free to give it a read whenever you feel like it fr1978-progression-journal-vt85871.html

DAY 42: updates on my targets and thoughts about Game in São Paulo.
American body typed girls theory.

Here a quick update on my targets and game in Brazil general.

Little Miss Sushine.
I've texted her Thursday (the day after our last Facebook interaction) to know if she was better. I called her Little Miss Sunshine in the text and basically wished her a good day. It was a bit AFC but I though I should go for it and take action instead of waiting for her to contact me for Monday. She answered:
Waited a few hours and reframe the shit:
No answer but yesterday (Friday) she left a message on my Facebook wall asking me for my email. I gave it to her. But dunno why she's asking that... I mean... she can already send me message on Facebook... Weird. Is she affraid of having me on the phone?
I don't know if she is really shy or maybe she wants to know me better since she only saw me once... Anyway, I'm waiting for an email to plan Monday.

The beer party.
The problem is that I won't be in my comfort zone in the giant beer party with samba orchestra. Not my thing, I don't even like beer and won't know anybody. Not the perfect environment to game her. I mean, I'm not affraid of not being in my comfort zone... but I don't want waste that opportunity and since she's been taking precautions with me, I think it will be a turning point, the "is this guy a possible date" test. She will be with her friends, I'll have to be social, but at the same time, I'll have to apply KINO and escalate... Seems a bit complicated to me.

Bus girl.
The more I think about the interaction the more I regret not having taken her number. I fucked up. She was hot... but I was hesitating too much on "do I like her?". The reason is that she was more "American" type.(explanation right after). She still has not added me on Facebook.

Gaming in São Paulo.
Girls show a lot of skin, but they are not necessarly beautiful. The beautiful ones have been are really hard to find. Plus logitics clearly don't help. I'm walking for hours to find sets that I like... and when I find some of them, the windows or opportunity are so small that I miss them. So the situation is a bit fucked up. I'm wasting too much money and energy for nothing. I think I'm gonna focus on the university though.

American body types girls.
Perhaps, the problem comes from me. Here, girls are clearly "american body typed". Most of them have fat asses, great boobs and large thighs and I have to confess I'm more into the European thin girls. That also explains why I've not been seeing women of my age: they look older. The bus girl looked 27yo to me, but again, on second thoughs, she was hot.

Questions to move on.
- What goal should I set up as a goal for Monday? Kiss Close? Day-3?

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One thing about facebook-closing.

I personally think facebook-closing is a bad idea. Go for the number or for an email.

Above all, if you facebook-close, make sure it is BOTH sides. I mean, you get her facebook, she get your.
If she get your facebook, but she does't give hers, it is a dead end 90% of the times.

I can tell you I had plenty of facebook closing. When it was only one-sided (her getting yours) it never lead to anything. She always forget or something.

A good lesson there for you was: do not facebook close if you can #-close.
And, if your only option is facebook-closing, make it both sides, no exceptions...

For Monday

I think a good plan would be

1) HAVE FUN. This is much more important than any closing
2) SOCIALIZE. Not only with the friends of your LMS, but try to push your level of comfort forward with strangers...
3) Isolate. She is with friends. Have fun and socialize for an hour. Maybe even give more attention to the friends than to LMS. Then isolate. "Hey LMS do you wanna go for a walk?" Or anything.
4) Try to read her body language closely. Go for the kiss-close if you see that she's into you...

Indeed! I got everything for Little Miss Sunshine: number, facebook... but I fucked up with the bus girl. I've written my name on her notebook. I hope she'll add me quickly. I won't do this mistake again.
Good points here. I'll focus on being social/funny with her friends. I'll apply KINO and play some game with her ("what? can't hear you" "can I tell you a secret?" "so you're affraid of speak to me"). I just hope she will be with me and that she won't leave me with friends and then go to see some others...

I'll watch for the body language, but dunno really what to do once I isolate her. If I go for the kiss close... cool, no worries, everything is clear. What if there's no opportunity but we have a great vibe... Should I tell her: "I like you you know" "wanna see you again" (direct)... should I go for a day 3... should I wait and call her another day... Maybe I should not overthink this, but she's been sending strange signals... It seems that she does not want to talk to me by phone i.e...

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Hey Daniel...

Hmm, what is this shit above all about?

I tried to be more friendly since you're "shy?" [Trying to be dominant...]

"Happy to have an answer though" [Supplicating]

"Give me a ring" [ Supplicating]

"I'll call. [Trying to be dominant]

^^Seriously, that message was a real roller coaster. It's no wonder she didn't reply. I think the thing here is you're trying to be dominant... And well ... it's kinda coming of as being try hard...

Not sure what is going on with this girl... But you're trying to force the issue and she's reeling of every trick in the book. Here's my email... here's my msn handle... blah blah blah... Whatever.

The point is Monday is REALLY all that matters here. This is your make or break so chill the FUCK down until Monday rolls by.

Again, bus-stop girl #2 is simply a lesson. A lesson hard learned. ALWAYS get the girl's contact details... It's just a matter of fact. Nothing more... Don't take it personally.

Expecting a girl to organize and make the first move is just retarded...Because they're just not wired to do this.

Keep doing what you're doing and stop looking for the perfect sets man. SPAM, remember this is just a numbers game. Keep cranking them out.

Hope that helps bro.

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Yeah, not perfect indeed. I've just send what I came up with. I did not want to overthink all this. I thought it would be cool to reward her for the answer "happy to have an answer though" but I guess I did the opposite here in the end. The all "ring me" is all about logistics: I thought she did not call because it's expensive.

Yeah, Monday will be the big day. I'm not that anxious about it actually. I mean, I've been being funny and friendly all the week with Brazilians and other exchange students. I'll be Monday too. I just need to plan a bit my escalation. I've never really done that before.

I don't know if I'm pushing it too much... I don't think so, but we've only seen each other once... We'll see Monday.

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Escalation is all about acuity my friend. Pay close attention to her body language. Are her feet pointing towards you? Is she closed off or opened up? Does she have a smile on her face and seem unknowing to the KINO when you initiate? Does she LOVE your little "I can't hear you" game? Any KINO she intiates is more than likely a concious effort on her part. Even it is not, roll with it and continue to escalate. If things are too overwhelming, or you're bombing out, excuse your self to the bathroom and strike up a convo on the way back to get your head straight.

SHE WILL NOT SLAP YOU FOR HONEST KINO! You can't push it, because you aren't under the impression that there is anything to push, get it? Like I say before, your normal behaviour is your normal behaviour, if you add a sexual tension to it, it is still normal behaviour, you and her are just enjoying it in a different way than friends would.

No more txting, don't say hello on FB chat, and wait until monday, she might call you if you wait enough. If she doesn't, and it is getting late, send her a short txt wanting to meet, and don't explain yourself for being late, you were busy.

BE FUN, HAVE FUN, DON'T TRY TO BE OVERLY NICE! Don't tell her you like her, tell her shes hot. It is all about context, and you are on your way to being too friendly. You have to imply you want her, not that you like her. She knows you like her, she wants you to be a man, she wants you to say she is hot, she wants to be the focus of your ATTRACTION, not your kindness. Go sarge the hell out of saturday/sunday, try to get some numbers and send some "fishing" txts out before you go to the party. That way, when a girl replies to your txt while you are at the party, you can reply in front of LMS. You can reply to the new girl about how you are at a party, but will txt her later, at the same time showing popularity and slight indifference to LMS. DOUBLE DHV!

Get those three IOI's. get her a little tipsy and isolate. That's it, make your move for k-close, no hesitation, it is JUST THAT SIMPLE. If you escalate, push/pull, neg and CF her, and she is not receptive, the party has turned from gaming LMS to finding new girls. Yes that is cold, but you're ALPHA now, and no one will blame you for it!

GO FOR IT BRAW!

I'll try to pay attention to the body language. I went out today with the exchange students and some Brazilians guys. I'm already popular among the Brazilian guys and most of the exchange students. It was a good practice for tomorrow. I've even done some KINO with a new possible target.
I'm affraid that if I don't kiss close her, I'll get in the friend zone. So, no choice, I'll go for it. But damn... not an easy task.
I'll wait until Monday... we are Sunday night, and still no info about Monday. Don't like that at all I confess. I AM SO LOST IN MID-GAME. I mean, I try not to overthink this, but when I do what I feel like doing, I'm a damn AFC.
Sure, I'll have fun. But my main problem is that I am TOO NICE, too friendly. I should be a bit more aggressive, maybe more alpha... but damn, I don't know how to do that. I'm starting to really understand the funny thing... I kinda know how to make them comfortable and then I add some KINO to that. That's what I know for now: being funny and applying some KINO.
JUST THAT SIMPLE. Damn.

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