so, i'm gaming this girl. we seem like a good match. she's pretty nice, but a little different.

occasionally, she gets going into the sort of topics she would discuss with a girlfriend, and i promptly redirect the conversation to her tits, don't want to fall into the friend zone.

however, she wants to talk every single night on the phone. i really like talking with her too, but i don't want her to get too comfortable with hearing my voice. and honestly, when you talk every night, there isn't always anything to talk about unless you live an incredibly exciting life!

i think three nights a week is good, four at the absolute most. basically every other day?

she is persistent. last night, we were im'ing, having fun, gaming each other, and she was like "i wanna talk". i played it off and kept joking with her about how my voicebox needs beauty sleep because it's in such demand and how she really should be in bed (lame, i know, but i didn't want to be roped into talking yet again). it was pretty early. she eventually caught on that i was playing and she handled it quite well. i told her to have a good night and she said the same. this was in an instant messenger service online.

what i want to know is what are some good excuses to not talk every day? i don't mind im'ing her sometimes, texting others, and talking others. but i know talking every single day is a really bad idea.

any ideas on smart ways of getting around her persistence to talk all the time? btw, i really like this chick.

Im currently talking to 3 different girls and i talk to each of them every day, unless im going out or they are going out one night. Personally its worked for me my entire life of soul smashing; and i've never run out of things to talk about.

I don't think its a bad idea to talk to a girl on the phone everyday, however it is a bad idea if your the only one making the calls. If you wanna be spontaneous and keeping her on her toes just switch up the time you spend on the phones. For example, sometimes you talk for 5 mins sometimes 20, every once in a while spend an hour and sometimes answer and say, "hey wassup, blal blah blah" let her respond "blah blah blah" Then respond with " but listen, i was actually in the middle of something, its good to hear from you ill give you a call tommrow"

Although i've noticed that some girls actually like routine and things remaing consistent despite what the PUA website says. Thats why I made a post asking how Zodiac signs effect PU; too bad no one commented


And its okay to listen to the girlfriend topics once in a while, just don't seem overly interested. It makes her feel comfy telling you anything. If you know how to generate attraction and create sexual tension; it doesnt really matter what you guys talk about. Ill listen to a chick rant about how gossip girls what so good last night, and then slide my hand right into her pants

thanks, fuze.

that is genuinely good advice.

anybody else have ideas too?

i have been dumped for answering a girls call everynight
The being dump part was cause i pick up her call everynight and because a wuss,talk mushy stuff etc etc back in the days when i was still a dumb noob.so dont go talking thing bout feeling n such cause its stupid but u seem to know what ur doin.

Im kind of good at talking on the phone since i have made most of the girl i slept with interested with me from talking on the phone ... i just tease and bust their balls and be funny till they keep calling me like crazy..and no i dont talk everyday cause i got a life to live.

my way of handling a girl who wants to talk to me everyday is when she call i would say stuff like"what do u want from me today,im charging with interest if u wanna talk to me today"(to show that im kind of bz but will make an exception for a price) or i would make stupid ridiculous so she knows that im joking but hinting im buzy like"hey (her name),i would love to talk to u but i think for tonight i would like to watch my grass grow....when its up to 1 cm,i will give u a call"...i just have fun with it...if shes mad i could always apologize later or just leave it till she comes calling me back

Take it to a date. I don't think it's good talking to her on the phone every night because at some point no matter how often you redirect to her tits you'll end up falling into the friend zone that she only wants to converse with.

No bro, that's called being and asshole. No HB 9-10 out there with any self worth is gonna answer to shit like that. Think about if a chick told you when you called her " I'd rather watch my grass grow" would you call her again? You NEVER punish good behavior. And a chick calling no matter how much or how annoying it is is good behavior. If you want a chick with low self esteem and no self respect follow his advice...

You didntt get dumped for answering a girls calls Everytime; you got dumped for what was said after the call had been answered. Honestly if you rocked a womens socks off mentally Every-time she called you would she dump you? I doubt it; unless she's a psycho. Drop the ass hole gig dude

fuze, i agree exactly with what you said. yeah, that was what i knew i must avoid...was being some sort of asshole about it.

it's totally me. i'm working on my game. but quite honestly, every couple days i have cool stuff to talk about and conversation 'naturally' flows and flows real good, yknow? every day, not so much, and at least i know my limitations and am reasonable about it. now, if i lived the life of Bear Grylls then i would have lots of 'genuinely interesting' shit to talk about every day.

the way i avoided talking to her the other night was to be playful like i was playing hard to get, i was real nice about it, and was joking the whole time, and totally giving her attention. finally, she im's me back "you just don't wanna talk tonight, whatever! with a smiley like this " and we kept im'ing. it was all good.

i just wish i had a way of kind of saying (without saying) "bitch, don't call me every night!"

lol

Your logically trying to be an asshole, (i just made a huge post about logic)

What i mean is, you think by acting like a asshole she'll like you, That is LOGICAL thinking, and when you think logic with girls, you fail.

You can be an a-hole but dont direct it all towards her. you disaggree, talk shit about other people. tell her what all is bothering you(without sounding like a emotional freak LOL) this makes the convo always interesting. because your so unpredictable,
she can never tell when you going to be nice and mean.

there is a balance between the two.

bandit,

you got a link to that post? i'd like to read it.

Duhh bro "Assholes get the girls" that's pretty old shit. However that wasn't my point. I spent a large part of my life being an asshole to Chix and always ending up in these terrible relationships. Karma is the biggest baddest bitch out there. The Assholes never really do in up in any happy healthy relationships now do they? And What I was telling Mac was their is a healthier way to Handel your women interactions.

And do you even know what it is about the asshole that attracts women??... It's not the rude comments and cocky shit they say.

So what if you could learn the qualities that make an " asshole" attractive all while leaving out the demeaning immature dumb shit? I think that will make you and even better person =D and mean your a hell of a lot better with women than the typical asshole"

Have a good day

@ mack logic-kills-attraction-being-illogical- ... highlight=

your talking about bein a nice butthole, i already said all that..

theres a Balance between being nice and an asshole.
if you lean to one side to much, you get thrown off. and your fucked.

Dude why worry about friend zone, you can be in the middle of it and if you make sexual statements regurarly, you can still lay her, I remember Sinn sais this to girls all the time:

''Hey you wanna be friends me too, I'm still attracted to you and I'm still gonna try to fuck you every time we see, but I'd love to be friends it's great. ''
But I think he sais it little less direct haha

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