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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:02 pm 
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Instead of going through a half remembered explanation, I'll just post what I wrote about her in the past. For the record, I met this girl in July and this post is from November. I know this goes against everything in pickup, and yes I have pursued other girls with limited success in the meantime, but have you ever just have a girl hit all the things on your checklist?
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Girl #1, we'll call her J. HB9. Met up with her a few months ago via facebook. I saw that she liked to run so running we did together. Our second meet up I went over her house late at night. We watched television together and I put my arm around her at one point. Fast forward to hanging out a few more times, mostly running. I met her parents. One night I was over late and we ended up laying on her bed. It was around midnight-1 and I suggested spending the night and she said maybe some other time. She's giving me lots of IOIs, but is super busy and elusive to the point where she barely responds to texts. Finally I ask her after a run one day what does she see with us. She says she's not really ready for a relationship, busy, blah blah, and asks me. I tell her I like her. We had a break from school in about a month at that point so I suggest maybe when break comes around we'll get something started. She says that sounds good.

Week before break we're talking on facebook. She says she was too busy to hang out a day I suggested and I said something like, "Aw you're killing me, J. I'm just hoping it will be worth it though." and she dropped the bomb that she only sees me as a friend, nothing more. I've been crushed ever since (almost two months). We haven't really hung out since, but I see her in school now and then and she's still super friendly and talks to me. I want to win her back so badly.
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Thanks for the insight. Unfortunately, even though it's the oldest situation, girl #1 is still girl #1 on my mind. She is genuinely busy (I know this for a fact based on what she does) and most of her free time is spent going to "unmissable" events like concerts. She's around guys a lot and seems to have a lot of guy friends, so I'm wondering how I can distinguish myself from the pack and win her over? I'm hesitant to just ignore her and wait for her to come to me because she's so busy I can imagine her forgetting about me if I don't make an effort to be in her life.
Since then, I've learned some things. You are as busy as you want to be. Especially with a romantic partner, the acceptable times to meet extend way later into the evening than you'd allow for other engagements (like you wouldn't take a night class that goes past 9:30, but you'd see your girlfriend at 10 if it was important to you). Also, ignoring texts is unacceptable. Once again, if she likes me enough, she should be able to text me back promptly and even initiate some conversations.

Well here's the update.

Last week I saw her a few times in school. She smiled and said hi, I did the same, but didn't stop to talk as we were going opposite directions. This happened again Monday morning only this time my back was to her and didn't see her until she was walking away. My roommate was standing with me and said she was looking at me and smiling as if she was anticipating me turning to greet her. Later that morning, out of the blue, she writes on my facebook wall. "Hey I only ever see you in passing anymore? How's your ankle? Are you back running?" (I had hurt it a few months ago).

I decide to let her wait a little. I wait until today (Wednesday) afternoon and comment back, "Yeah it's a little stiff still, but I'm back at it. You?".

I go to class. After, I kill time in the library waiting for a bus. As I go to sit down, I spot a girl who I had talked to earlier in the week. When I sit down, I realize it's the running girl. Fuck. We get to talking and it's like nothing has changed at all. She pulls her computer next to me and shows me this race that "we" need to sign up for this summer. We talk a little about school as well. When it's time to part ways, she says text her to get her to run sometimes. She even specifically says, "If you don't text me, I'm not going to run, so text me" or something along those lines. Basically making it clear in her friendly way that she's still in busy mode and won't be texting me first.

So now I can't help but wonder what to do. Obviously this time I would make my texts more like "Hey I'm running Friday morning, you up for it?" or something like that, rather than "When can you run with me?" or something like that. It's my running schedule, she's just hoping to be included. Aside from that though, I don't know how to approach it. I feel so deeply for her, just being her running buddy is not an option. I've been severely depressed over the past few months over her.

So do I:
1. Game her as I would a new girl from the start. Although I went wrong the first time so I don't know how to go about it?

2. Wait until we have some time to talk after our first run together again and just tell her, listen, this is how I feel about you and I won't be able to handle just being your running buddy. I can see this being possibly therapeutic for me, but very awkward for her and could very well likely push her away rather than give me a chance.


Please, please help me.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:02 am 
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im not a pro like the other guy in here but i think u should NOT reveal ur feelings.Stop with telling her your feelings cause i think thats what push her away in the 1st place.

i think you should just bust on her,tease her etc game on her till shes the one who confess her feelings for you.be cool,calm and be incontrol..just have fun.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:47 am 
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I can definitely see her reacting negatively if I tell her how I feel, but at the same time I want her to know that the buddy situation won't do for me.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:01 pm 
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in my opinion,i think you got 2 choices,1 is u give up on her and go for other girls...come on theres 2 much girls in this world for all of us...but i get it if u cant handle ur feelings

2nd is you ignore her lets just be friends comment,dont take it personally and continue gaming her but not in a way that shows u the type who doesnt take no for an answer.in a indirect way,since u said now shes the one who is kind of chasing u in a certain way...then try to game on her.

I dont encourage you telling her either u give me a chance or i cant be ur buddy...i think u should control ur emotions a little,raise her attraction for you,dont be desperate for an answer from her,what she thinks bout you doesnt matter..what matters is ur gaming on her and have fun,have a i dont give a shit attitude,...ur the price not her.

i hope that help...


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:04 am 
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One thing I forgot to mention: When we were talking she says "We HAVE to sign up for this" and shows me a website for a race in June. The thing is, the race is like 7 hours away and it's a two day thing, so obvious hotel stay. I work at a hotel so I can get us a room within the chain for cheap. I'm just wondering what goes through her mind when she says these things as I would obviously try to hook up with her if I was spending the night with her.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:13 pm 
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whatever you do don't confess your feelings for her again and give her an ultimatum. ultimatums make you seem weak and desperate. It gives her the power in the relationship, which ain't good. You have to show your cool and in control in the buddy situation. Like insigniadeck said just keep gaming her but be aloof about it.
If shes implying a hotel stay like you think think. Thats an IOI, or she just playing you so she can boost her own confidence (happened to me twice). Even if shes just playing you still got a chance because that means shes interested in winning you over, she just doesn't want to sleep with you. But this gives you a chance to turn the tables. Just don't take her bait and make her chase you. You have to outsmart the rabbit to catch it.
Its possible that she thinks you guys can be just friends, and thats a dead end im pretty sure. But you wont know till you try right?


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