Wow you little boys are just a bunch of idiots.. are there any people out there that have anything constructive to say? @jackdaniels.. sounds like your better of just drinking that jack till your dead!

Ok listen guy.

We are all about picking up girls that is why we are here. But you pick up girls when you are single. You don't get married then pick up girls.

And as I said your scared to deal with your own life yet you call us wussies. Get a divorce step up and be a man.

Also no I won't help you and I doubt anyone here wants to either.

Rick... Send me a personal message and I will give you all the advise you need. Unfortunately I do not know what your situation is with your wife and I honestly do not care... Cut this thread. I know so many people who have these strange morals. If you have slept with as many married women as I have then you realize what the world is really about. Why do you all think I am 30 and still not married. I have my daughter... My genes are out there, I just don't believe in the marriage thing, to me it is another form of indoctrination. Men and women get taught from a young age that it is the right thing to do. I have no moral issue with helping you. None of us know what is happening in your personal life and we shouldn't comment on why you want to do this... This thread has become a personal attack on Rick and he just wanted help... Most of you guys got into this because of "... that on girl ..." to me that is sad but hey... Thats my opinion and it doesn't mean shit to any of you. Leave the man... Let him do what he wants. Don't bust on him because your morals are different to his. How boring would life had been had we all had the same religion, morals, values and we all liked and did the same thing. Stop it guys!!!

OK first you all have NO idea what my relationship is with my wife.. so again stay out of that, maybe i will explain it if i feel the need. 2 you are apparently all very young and have no idea what real commitment is. and the difference between that and sex... You all know there are very many women out there.. why should they be deprived of me . or you!. If someone is lacking something in their current relationship that i can provide or vice versa then there is no problem.
NOW again ANYONE want to task this with a creative and mature attitude!
You might want to also consider that about 70% of men and 60% of women have extramarital affairs.. there is whole multi-billion dollar business revolving around it!. so get real!.. Think on this .. 60% of people who had affairs claimed that during and after their affair their marriage got better.

I've read all you've had to say and i don't want to know about your kids or anything because this has nothing to do with us. Plus we arn't depriving you from any of these women or telling you not to go after them hey fuck them all if you like. All we are saying is that you should atleast respect your wife enough to tell her the truth then go after these women. And as for help i don't beleive I'm the right guy to give you the information you want and i don't really want to, to be honest i hate people who cheat and don't see a need for it I'm not been a wusse I just respect myself and others.

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The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.

Oi! Ive just got out of a 12 year fucking relationship simply because we didnt want to do the same stuff together anymore. (No hard feelings) Its only natural that after wanting kids and when her becoming pregnant became the sole reason you bonked every night that sex became routine roll on roll off mundane your gonna feel mechanical about it. You either re-ignite the old flame of romance with her or split and start fresh- no - ones going to condone extra marital affairs on here as our intent is to leave every woman we meet better than we found her in all honesty. Common sence really.
Your choice.
I am older and more experienced in this than you but take it or leave it.

though it is true that the tactics and information here are for "bagging women" however nowhere does it suggest cheating, take a woman home one night send her off in the morning, when you get into a relationship whether it be exclusive dating or marriage you also take on the responsibility that comes with it. This is not a place for cheating, and that's where you seem to be making the mistake. A different girl each night is still better than sneaking off behind your wife's back.

look guys once again .. I appreciate your concern for my marriage, etc,, but as i have said , that is my business and it is handled. We have a unique situation , and all is in accord. So please can we get past that. I do not feel like delving into my situation with that, it is extremely personal and not fun to talk about!.

Vince been trying to pm u but they just sit in outbox!?

I like this approach - it's strong, direct and if said with a smile leaves you little chance of being blown out.

At the very least, she'll think you are witty. With this approach, you'll definately set yourself apart from 99% of the AFC's out there. And at best, she'll roll with this and take it forward.

Think about it - she's already given you plenty of non-verbals with the smiling and waving - get out there and approach her now and report back!

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Cheeznrice.. thanks Mdawg for the props. Unfortunately she hasn't been there or i haven't so hadn't 'seen' each other in a few days.. except yesterday morn and drop off which is just pretty much cruise by and throw kid out .. and it was a BIG wave and SMILE from her.. I gave her a 1 sided smile and nod.
Monday is it .. if all is copasetic . i have a few other things i can work too was thinking can bust her on her new mini van.. Me .. like your new mom mobile..
her thanks.. me yeah nothing says sexy like the mini-van.. silence.. with a smirk
me at least its a volkswagon.. mean you have good taste ,, you like german engineering ? her . uh yeah.. blah blah.. Me good thing I am german engineered!.

I woud love for her to say something like 'my husband picked it out' so i can reply ' well maybe i should be hitting on your husband then' doh

AMEN!! and with that said, im not choosing either side bcuz both sides are rite. but i will agree with why are others careing and stressing so hard, when after all many others have asked for advice on gaming women already in relationships. so many men need to stop puttin pussy on a pedastol! y, bcuz sumone i kno very close to me, not too long ago got caught cheatin on his wife who he has a kid with. she mad a big deal about it and they seperated. wks later, he finds out she isnt so innocent herself but yet a very good person at hiding and keeping things to herself. so i would say if a man wants to cheat on his wife then its his business. if u dnt agree with it, thats just ur opinion, but its his life, he's grown and can make his own decisions.

as for my bit of advice to the situation, i would wait it out and check for more ioi's. just start having convo and build rapport/comfort. if she's interested she will make more moves..i mean she has been aggressive this far rite?

Alright... I might not have had any long term relationships, nor have I ever been married, but I have had conversations with individuals who HAVE had these long term relationships and I learned a lot.

I'm not sure what your situation is with your wife, but I will speak under the notion that you two have gotten comfortable with each other:

Take a split for a while. Don't see each other for a bit (if that's possible). You need to... "re-ignite" that passion you once felt with her when you first married her.

If you married her, and had children, I'm under the impression that at one point in time, you truly loved this woman.

When things get too comfy, things get boring.
When things get boring, things get rocky.
And when things get rocky... shit hits fans.

So all I'm saying is to really re-think cheating on your wife. Again, I say this assuming you two are comfy with each other AND ALSO on fairly good terms...

Don't cheat on her man...

The long-term consequences really would outweigh the short-term pleasures.

But if you do decide to do it, end it first, because women TALK... and the smallest things can come back and bite you in the ass.

Always start on a clean slate.

Cuz no one likes their hands dirty.

Man ou guys have to lighten up a bit .. and enjoy life a little more.. You only live once!. make it as great as possible.. experience EVERYTHING you can..
I don't know how old you guys are .. but i have lived a good life.. no always rich , not always poor.. don't good things and BAD.. i regret NONE.. well 1 i do but whatever I am atoning for that in my own way. Don't ever say I wonder if .. you never now where a decision will lead no matter how 'bad' it may seem at the time.
and you really shouldn't neglect ANYONE of being in your life if they so desire!

You know what? I think you have just fired off lots of taboos ingrained in our society but the reality is what your talking about- I think it goes on all the time. I wont say why I think this- just that I put up a similar post about laying married women- got the old pre selection switch blah.
If a woman is happy with her marriage and sexually satisfied completely(unlikely) this stuff wouldnt happen. But it does. Get real. I have done it and it was the most satisfying experience i remember with a woman.
i know i said about firing up old flame( again unlikely ) or splitting (not easy) i reckon enjoy yourself you only live once just dont get caught! no harm done!
Lifes too short- forget what i said in last post!