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Your assuming that attraction for men and women works the same way, it doesn't.
While I agree that women's attraction is different to men's, as in not purely based on looks, I also agree with the idea that you can't build it - that women need at least a little initial interest for you to stand a chance of ever having sex with them. Many women say that they decide within the first 10 minutes of meeting you whether they would ever have sex with you or not. Even though there may be a few tactics that will swing things in your favour (maybe she can gain something by fucking you such as popularity or money) it's really hard to build that from 0 interest. It also explains why even the top guys get rejected.
nobody is talking about getting ANY girl. We are talking about increasing your chances.
There are plenty of ways to increase your chances - getting your image sorted, having a good job, good friends, good lifestyle... But the main thing that makes a woman want to fuck you is sexual tension.

There are three types of women you will meet:
1) Girls that will be interested in you right from the start
2) Girls that are undecided yet (your indian friend met those kinds of girls)
3) Girls that you stand no chance with, no matter how popular you are, how much money you make, how funny/interesting your DHV stories are

The problem with most guys is that they try to oversell themselves with game by talking too much, being too entertaining, and trying way too hard (all of which kill sexual tension) because they expect that every girl they meet is starting off completely uninterested. They think they have to do a lot more than they really need to to win the girl over. By doing this they're actually more likely to lose the girls that were into them in the first place, because they will get annoyed.

With 60's techniques you don't do any of that, you just build the tension. The girls that are already into you love it because you aren't fucking about trying too hard to impress them. The girls that are undecided will start to feel attraction for you once they feel the tension build. Doesn't matter that you're ugly, if she feels the tension and starts to get aroused she will backwards rationalise it as you being attractive. By using these techniques you are increasing your chances.


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Just like blondguy said 60's game is night time oriented and it gets you in hyper fast, because it's based on a principle of weeding all the ''uninterested'' girls out and spend your time only with the ones, that they already have attraction for you.

That then only leaves you to deal with seduction and the base of seduction is touching and kino, that's why 60 is so focused on escalation 8)
One more thing I don't like about 60s and GWM staff is that they concentrate on girls who're already attracted. What abbout girls who're not? That's why we have to know how to built attraction, in order to be able to come closer to our goal of being able to get ANY chick.+go be sexual in daygame-you'll be seen as weird. Especially in college campus. Then you're kinda f*****

Game won't work for every girl and any girl, but since you can't get every girl with GWM and 60s, you just use something else, to increase your chances (attrraction) and if it hits it does, if it doesn't hit it doesn't, personally I think MM is great for night time, it only boders me, that it is so routine based and I would really like to learn something more natural if anyone knows something like these plz post it.

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The problem with most guys is that they try to oversell themselves with game by talking too much, being too entertaining, and trying way too hard (all of which kill sexual tension) because they expect that every girl they meet is starting off completely uninterested. They think they have to do a lot more than they really need to to win the girl over. By doing this they're actually more likely to lose the girls that were into them in the first place, because they will get annoyed.

With 60's techniques you don't do any of that, you just build the tension. The girls that are already into you love it because you aren't fucking about trying too hard to impress them. The girls that are undecided will start to feel attraction for you once they feel the tension build. Doesn't matter that you're ugly, if she feels the tension and starts to get aroused she will backwards rationalise it as you being attractive. By using these techniques you are increasing your chances.
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to clarify things....I neither practice nor advocate MM. I actually think that MM is also more effective in nightgame. About GWM-I think way too concentrated on night game/SNLs but good explanation of seductive eye-contact, sexual frame and all the non-verbal staff.

@AdamThomas

Good one!!! I actually had this situation couple ago. Approached a cute girl(in the library) and got unexpectedly big amount of interest. When I introduced myself, she even stood up to shake my hand(although she was right in front of me), all smiling, bunch of IOIs. I was puzzled a bit, but anyways the next day (yesterday) she added me on fb. We'll see where I can take it.

@Kupid - I feel the same way about routines. I just started RSD, It's considered to be more natural approach to PU. Try Blueprint Decoded by Tyler Durden-I just started it looks good so far.

P.S. @ 60yoc-I believe, many of us would love to hear how you'd suggest us tuning down your mathod for daygame.


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About GWM-I think way too concentrated on night game/SNLs but good explanation of seductive eye-contact, sexual frame and all the non-verbal staff.

gunwitch did daygame lonewolf mainly (i think) :D

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hahaha, I just tried for the first time what I *think* is the main point of the 60yearsofchallenge - just building sexual tension without words.

This was about an hour ago. This girl I'm seeing non-exclusively was super-pissed at me because she found all these texts in my phone from another girl that were very sexual (she knew we weren't exclusive, but she didn't want to see the evidence of it). She was just standing in my apartment yelling at me and chewing me out and trying to get me to agree to be exclusive with her. This had been going on for 45 minutes and nothing I said or did would remedy the situation.

So, I just shut up and stared at her in the eyes. I tried to look at her as seductively as possible. She kept yapping at me. I put my hand on her back and kept staring at her and did the triangle gazing. She asked me what I was doing. I didn't respond. She kept talking to me while I kept staring at her in the eyes while I was imagining kissing and fucking her. She suddenly stops mid-sentence and asks "Can we have sex?"


I haven't actually read much of the material, so I'm not even sure if I'm doing it right, but whatever it was it worked!


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I don't really do night game. So I never looked into 60's material.

For day game you can try: Ross Jeffries's Speed Seduction (you need silent places to use it), Sinn, Gunwitch.

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hahaha, I just tried for the first time what I *think* is the main point of the 60yearsofchallenge - just building sexual tension without words.

This was about an hour ago. This girl I'm seeing non-exclusively was super-pissed at me because she found all these texts in my phone from another girl that were very sexual (she knew we weren't exclusive, but she didn't want to see the evidence of it). She was just standing in my apartment yelling at me and chewing me out and trying to get me to agree to be exclusive with her. This had been going on for 45 minutes and nothing I said or did would remedy the situation.

So, I just shut up and stared at her in the eyes. I tried to look at her as seductively as possible. She kept yapping at me. I put my hand on her back and kept staring at her and did the triangle gazing. She asked me what I was doing. I didn't respond. She kept talking to me while I kept staring at her in the eyes while I was imagining kissing and fucking her. She suddenly stops mid-sentence and asks "Can we have sex?"


I haven't actually read much of the material, so I'm not even sure if I'm doing it right, but whatever it was it worked!
this is exactly right. The cure for female drama is deadpan. Any guy that takes a woman's drama seriously is tooled. Reframing, diffusing with humor, none of it works. This is true in seduction and relationships. Men try to solve problems and diffuse drama, whereas women love drama for the sake of it. The drama is the point. It's fun. When you try to solve it "baby, I'm sorry etc." you loose.

Look at the show Jersey Shore. The poor guy just wants to be drama free in his relationship, but Sammy loves the drama. He doesn't get it. He is trying his hardest to solve the problems, while she is happy creating them. Men hate drama and like to solve problems. Women love drama and like when there are problems (it provides emotions). He takes it seriously, and is losing his mind. Poor guy. In the end a muscular 275 pound man can be brought to tears by a 100 pound woman.

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60 - Check your email man! I asked you how much for SNL a few weeks back, did you get it?

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@60 so what about daygame?


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This was about an hour ago. This girl I'm seeing... was super-pissed at me... she was just standing in my apartment yelling at me and chewing me out... and nothing I said or did would remedy the situation.

So, I just shut up and stared at her in the eyes. I tried to look at her as seductively as possible. She kept yapping at me. I put my hand on her back and kept staring at her and did the triangle gazing. She asked me what I was doing. I didn't respond. She kept talking to me while I kept staring at her in the eyes while I was imagining kissing and fucking her. She suddenly stops mid-sentence and asks "Can we have sex?"

LMAO I spend so much time in the relationships forum helping dudes work through messy emotional stuff when all this time... Go figure. (It works on my girlfriend, too, but for some reason I had to see someone write it out to put two and two together)

For those of you who have tried 60s stuff, does the girl ever ask, "Why are you looking at me like that?" accompanied with a coy smile and a sheepish giggle? I LOVE that!

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This was about an hour ago. This girl I'm seeing... was super-pissed at me... she was just standing in my apartment yelling at me and chewing me out... and nothing I said or did would remedy the situation.

So, I just shut up and stared at her in the eyes. I tried to look at her as seductively as possible. She kept yapping at me. I put my hand on her back and kept staring at her and did the triangle gazing. She asked me what I was doing. I didn't respond. She kept talking to me while I kept staring at her in the eyes while I was imagining kissing and fucking her. She suddenly stops mid-sentence and asks "Can we have sex?"

LMAO I spend so much time in the relationships forum helping dudes work through messy emotional stuff when all this time... Go figure. (It works on my girlfriend, too, but for some reason I had to see someone write it out to put two and two together)

For those of you who have tried 60s stuff, does the girl ever ask, "Why are you looking at me like that?" accompanied with a coy smile and a sheepish giggle? I LOVE that!
That's exactly my problem.
When I look at them seductively they go and say "What?" or "Why are you looking at me?"
I usually make an excuse,is this wrong or should I have just been deadpan?


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This was about an hour ago. This girl I'm seeing... was super-pissed at me... she was just standing in my apartment yelling at me and chewing me out... and nothing I said or did would remedy the situation.

So, I just shut up and stared at her in the eyes. I tried to look at her as seductively as possible. She kept yapping at me. I put my hand on her back and kept staring at her and did the triangle gazing. She asked me what I was doing. I didn't respond. She kept talking to me while I kept staring at her in the eyes while I was imagining kissing and fucking her. She suddenly stops mid-sentence and asks "Can we have sex?"

LMAO I spend so much time in the relationships forum helping dudes work through messy emotional stuff when all this time... Go figure. (It works on my girlfriend, too, but for some reason I had to see someone write it out to put two and two together)

For those of you who have tried 60s stuff, does the girl ever ask, "Why are you looking at me like that?" accompanied with a coy smile and a sheepish giggle? I LOVE that!
That's exactly my problem.
When I look at them seductively they go and say "What?" or "Why are you looking at me?"
I usually make an excuse,is this wrong or should I have just been deadpan?
As long as she's not providing physical resistance, keep doin' what you're doin'. Don't listen to her verbal shit.

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@PUAKing Now,they seem to be saying I am intimidating.
No physical resistance though they just say it.
I should just not mind them/keep the conversation or just keep quiet and lock eye contact+triangular gaze?


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@PUAKing Now,they seem to be saying I am intimidating.
No physical resistance though they just say it.
I should just not mind them/keep the conversation or just keep quiet and lock eye contact+triangular gaze?
Yeah. If she gives you physical resistance then she thinks you're a creep. If it's verbal, fuck it! You live once... go in for the kill!

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