okay jits... what do i do next?

ryan: im a regular, and very well known in this area. that approach wouldnt work im afraid.

For once I actually agree with Blondguy.

first of all, you're spending way too much time on a single target and you're screaming of one-itis. when you have one-itis, you fuck up nasty style like you did when you had the best chance of your life w/ her standing outside and you blew it.

not just going to sh$& on your parade though, cause i feel you and know your situation, you need to jump into a direct situation and stop screwing around. you're complaining about how much you want to give this girl a shot (from your perspective it's more like "her giving you a shot" - should be the other way around) but then you're not even giving it an ounce of effort - imagine how much better this entire situation would've been if you had spent all this time towards talking to the girl/directly addressing the situation instead of posting on here with updates and other lame & excessive information.

i'm kind of being an asshole intentionally here to show you that you need to figure this out and stop lolly gagging, and like I had mentioned previously I've been here so that's why I'm even responding to you

you need to do what others have already recommended (blond guy) and directly ask her to get a drink or do at least something else which is a little exciting. girls like classy guys. if you tell her you want to know more about her and mean it legitimately, she'll see that in you and your body language and should be happy to hang out. you're wasting your time doing anything else. (hired guns = direct game, general rule)


btw, regarding a "script" - that will f*** you up even further as you'll appear robotic and stupid sounding off some words you don't even truly mean. throw together some KEYWORDS:

and whatever you do, don't start with this, sets a horrible frame and just sounds ridiculous:
"Hi, I know this may be highly unprofessional and inappropriate"

just keep it simple.. "you're kinda cute and I wouldn't mind getting to know you a little better. I know you're busy, and I have to get to my appointment in a few minutes" then do the style number close. if you don't know the style # close you need to do some research. it will work. i promise. 100%. let me know when you do this and i guarantee she'll give you her # back on the piece of paper (try and use a business card, someone elses, if you have one) - number-close-annialation-method-vt3450.html

okay.... whats the style number close?

thanks for the heads up too! i appreciate it greatly.

posted the link up there, click here:

number-close-annialation-method-vt3450.html

i think you just need some roughening up and you need to go for it full force, just dont look like you're trying too hard and you'll do fine

Def go with blondguys direct approach. Send him a PM and get some background on direct approach. It is really not my bag. I think his is the best advice I have read on here. As far as 1itis I don't think that is the case at all. Proof being that you met this chick after gaming the coffee shop girl. so yea, pm blondguy.

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Victor, you know I completely understand your situation.

Sometimes you come across a girl that you want to make yours and want to use all the pick up skills to do that.......after all what's the point in learning pick up if you can't get the girl you want and desire.

But the whole point of pick up gets beaten when you concentrate yourself on that one girl, and this is what is referred to in pick up as "one-itis".

I too got frustrated at one point of time and thought of quiting all this pick up stuff and be satisfied with the pathetic space I was in.

But here was the epiphany, guyz like us get stuck on that "one girl" coz we still think like, in fact, we still are AFC's.

When you start learning pick up stuff, forget about everything - making girlfriends, building relationships, getting that one girl..............just don't expect anything. "You just got to learn and practice first" [MOST IMPORTANT]
and its gonna take time.

As you advance through the pick up learning process, there will come a point when you realize that now you don't actually get stuck on one girl and your mind play games with you, you get desperate for that "one girl"...... this just stops happening coz during the process you have tasted success, you have got failure and now you really don't care how things turn out with any girl.

Remember, its only when you are ready to lose that thing, that you are gonna get that thing.
and when this stage comes you will become a fearless wolf who knows how to hunt, and you will hunt with success. At this stage you can indulge in setting your eyes on that "one girl" if your mind still desires her....which is less likely to happen now.

Also, even a skilled and experienced wolf misses its prey sometimes, but its gonna get rare as you get better and better with pick up !!!!!!!!


So throw out your fears of losing that girl, just go and speak your mind to her. You will feel lighter after getting over her, in fact I will advice you to get rejected by her in your face so that then you will be able to direct all your emotions into learning pick up, not getting that girl.

Does she get a lunch break? If so, does she spend it in the coffee shop? At my local all the waitresses have lunch in store. If so, take advantage.

Also, Q to everyone else; how do you initiate kino other than getting change over a counter? How about if there are people waiting behind you?

i havent seen this girl in quite some time. so either she quit/got fired... or she moved to one of their other locations. they have three in the city, but i only go to one coz its close...


ill update this when/if need be.

thanks.