I don't know if you guys ever thought/noticed this, but I was noticing that when you're the one pushing the interaction or pushing for a meeting and the girl is resisting she has complete control and most likely will choose NOT to have a day 2 with you.

On the other hand if you're the one resisting and applying false barriers they're the one pushing and you can close the deal when ever you want and pretty much the way you want.

I think this applies in every stage of PU. You display value and sexuality but you're the one always making excuses why you can't deliver it until she's craving for it.

Just like when you don't like the girl and she gets obsessed with you.

Share your thoughts.

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"Their compliance is,
'Does she grab your hand?' F*ck you! I want to grab her mind. If I can
grab her mind, she'll be grabbing whatever I want, any way I want her to." - Ross Jeffries

To me its more about approval. Whoever talks and looks for approval is not in control. As an alpha male, you shouldn't be looking for approval after you've opened correctly. It should be her qualifying toy ou and earning your respect, therefore the control is in your hands.

Be careful though... I've seen people take this to extremes. Especially those MM students who think that every request is a shit test, or some assholes in general, but I have seen guys refuse to move to get out of a girl's way to let the girl pass by (Not even talk!) or to stand up from their chair for one second to let the girl her stuff from around the chair... its pretty ridiculous. Just because you do something for a girl doesn't mean you lose. Use common sense.

The thing you want to prevent, obviously, which has been preached oh so many times is that you don't want to become a woman's doormat. As long as you don't tie their shoes on a whim, you should be fine.

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For all you play it safers:
"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new."

- Albert Einstein quotes.

If the biggest nerd of the 19th century can do it, so can you.

I'm not convinced that all women will put up with this. I think PUA probably selects for women who are willing to be submissive, and weeds more assertive women out. Honing in on women who are (ultimately) submissive to sex is a good strategy for getting laid a lot, but it has serious disadvantages in the LTR and marriage dept.

women are naturally submissive. the dominant ones are unhappy as hell and rot from the inside out as it is not their natural state.

LOL! wut?

Yeah, I'm not convinced. I've known too many women political activists. There may be a statistical trend towards submissiveness, and it may be partly grounded in biology, not just upbringing. But to say that all women are submissive flies in the face of lots of empirical evidence. Of course men wanted to keep it that way for a long time, hence the phenomenon of the Glass Ceiling.

Nor do I believe that all men are naturally dominant. We may statistically tend towards making war and killing people with swords who insult our honor, but I had a surprising conversation one year with some people in a newsgroup about that. It convinced me that not all men have deep martial / militant / homicidal instincts. The empirical evidence is the number of people who failed to fire their weapons during the Civil War and maybe even WW II, I forget. It was some incredible number like 90% failure to discharge. Explanation: despite a lot of people shooting in the vicinity, many just "didn't feel it was right" to take someone else's life. Now personally I say the hell with that! If there's a good reason to take someone's life, like they're coming for me, jolly well better believe I'd do it. But I've been made to realize that not all men are driven that way.

If you think about it, most men in human history have not been leaders. Most men have been sheep. Or more accurately, disenfranchised peasantry. Get too uppity and the leaders kill you. So it stands to reason that the Alpha Males would keep huge hordes of Beta Males around to grow their crops, mine their ores, and such. We romanticize the heroes like Spartacus who broke free of it for awhile, but most men in history kept their heads down and minded their place, lest they end up on a crucifix with 4000 of their comrades.

"whoever cares the least, controlls the relationship" forgot where i heard that but its pretty dam true.

Right now I have been seeing two girls that have been really pushing for a relationship. I really dont want a relationship with either of them, or with anyone for that matter. I am happily single and dont want to change right now. Well whad do you know, these girls are all over me because i dont care and wont give in. Whoever wants the relationship more has lost the power as it is applied to relationships.

As far as day to day interaction goes, its all about common sennse and being normal. Dont be a doormat but dont think everything is a shit test, you will come across as weird and hollow. Key to all pick up, be normal and have fun.

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~Carmo~