okay, so doin some reading, and im noticing a trend either iv been missing something, or just a fluke within the posts. im noticing were hearing about either being at the clubs, or generally out in public. havent seen many ppl talking about other venues to potentially meet women.

so, im going to give my trusted and esteemed peers within the PUA community a situation, and would love to hear what i can possibly do. *note* this does apply to something in kinda dealing with right now.

for those who dont know toronto... outside the core, the city is broken up into differant regions/'hoods etc. i live just outside highpark (i VERY nice area) in a place called roncesvalles village often called "Ronceys" (kinda need to know this stuff) anyways, everything here is mom/pop and everyone knows everyone in some form or another (a unique trait for a major city-thus, ya kinda needed to know ) anyhoo, theres a small, but very popular espresso bar (just a hugh end coffeeshop) close to where i live. i go in there LOTS, know all the staff/owners, many patrons hell... i even have my own mug (says i love ronceys, with lil hearts, coz thas how i roll)

anyhooo, my target, isnt a patron (coz thas just to easy lol) my target is one of the staff. Generally not even really my type, an HB7, maaaybe HB8. she works a good amount of the time im in, and theres just something about her. we talk, and converse, but havent talked recently... not since i have come here anyways. i was in this morning and she came to work, didnt get a chance to talk to her, but got a smile and wave goodbye when i left. i think, a couple of the major problems im going to run into are the fact that its so close nit and everyone knows everyone, further, its a popular place, so their always busy.

what would be a good next step?

do a DHV !! grab her attention......show her you are not that regular customer !!!

okay....


anything else?

hey man im from toronto too. might be heading to u of t in the next couple of years. lets go pickup next time im in town.

anyways.

go direct. get into a conversation with her, tell her you think she's cute, that you have a really good time talking to her, and ask her if she'd like to go out sometime. then get her number.

easy!

"im from toronto too. might be heading to UofT in the next couple years"

where are you now, and how old are you? as for sarging, im totally down. the only person who knows the game in town that i know, i havent seen in forever.

and as for your advice, its not that easy. you see, the place is SMALL, and always SUPER busy. i mean like highway timmys/downtown starbucks kinda busy. theres no way to just bust it out like that.

ya see, im thinking, i need to work it over time. maybe with a couple of canned openers and a little DHV here and there.... but, then what, ya know?

i'm 24 and up in ottawa. but i head down to toronto a few times a year. roncesville is a great neighbourhood.

you need to find a time when its at least a little bit quiet. the problem with indirect, especially here, is that she's friendly with customers, you need to separate your interaction from the rest of the dudes she talks to throughout the day. the best way to do this is to be direct. if you guys have a common interest (shows, books, art, whatever) find out about it, and then the next time your in tell her about something that's going on that's related and invite her to come with you.

im unsure exactly how to do that in this case. there really is no real chance to get her alone. but further, you should look through other threads im talking in, i think you could help with other stuff too, like heres-something-completly-differant-cof ... highlight= for example.[/code]

Brother Viktor! My best PU to date was with a coffee shop employee. Always walk in like you own the place and DHV/Make friends with all the staff and patrons. When dealing with her keep the frame sexual and always be touchy. Escalate escalate and escalate. I think you already have attraction so we can skip that part.

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You can't forget about me, stupid. Everywhere I go ima have my own theme music.

Oh and something specific or gambitish. One little segment of my pickup with my coffee girl that I think escalated nicely. very loosely quoted

Her: You always get the white chocolate mocha.
(if she doesn't say something like that you can always start the thread)
Me: I know, it's like 5$ every time. It's like a car payment each month,but you make it so good I can't give it up.

Her: You should learn how to make them yourself.

Me. I like the way you make them, maybe you could show me how to do it sometime.
(I have an espresso machine at home so I said my place. If you don't then you can ask she has one at hers.)

I am not sure where you are with this girl and this was kind of late into my game. give me a better idea of where you are with this and maybe I can relate to that point better.

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You can't forget about me, stupid. Everywhere I go ima have my own theme music.

well, i can most definitely give you an update, coz i was there today! unfortunately, it didnt go exactly as i had hoped..... heres the lowdown.

so, i headed over to the coffeeshop, and low and behold, she was outside, alone! so i waled up to her, and said hey! and then, all of a sudden, it hit me, i got hit with the AFC-itis. thas right, i clammed up so, after saying hi, she said he hows things? im like not bad, blah blah blah... and i went inside. i grabbed my coffee, and she came back in. so, i was talkign to the other guy, about maybe planning a trip to europe. she jumped right into the convo, and gave me her opinions on where to go and whatnot! which was cool. i talked to her about it briefly, then left

not only, did i not bring my A-game, i didnt even bring my Q-game. kinda disappointed in myself.


but, in other news: i went to one of my watering holes for the superbowl and my favorite bartender, HB8 was having a really bad night coz of bad tippers and BS. and i cracked jokes, and took care of her. now, i got a hug when got in, which is normal, and a touch from time to time, which is also normal, but... at one point, she came over, and gave me a kiss on the cheek... which was very new for me! so, she gives me a kiss and a hug, and im like "aww hun, thank you! what was that for tho?" and shes all "just for being you" i also cracked a rather crass one liner implying somethign sexual, to wit, she replied "ahhh, thas so crass.... and i LOVE it!" sooooo, maybe an option? possibly?

I think you should go after her. She opened a window for you. Next time you game on her you can escalate and quickly kclose because it's "just for being you". She likes you man. Even if she doesn't know it how much yet.

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You can't forget about me, stupid. Everywhere I go ima have my own theme music.

okay, well ill do that then. now, i need some skript! care to help me write it oh master of masters?

I agree with others that you should be more direct. A criticism though:
Drop the "sometime" word. It displays weakness. Ditto "maybe." Compare:

"I like the way you make them. You could show me how to do it."

"I like the way you make them. I want you to show me how to do it."

"I like the way you make them. Show me how to do it!"

there is a lto of material available on here that is much better than mine.

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You can't forget about me, stupid. Everywhere I go ima have my own theme music.

"Hi, I know this may be highly unprofessional and inappropriate, but I think you're very attractive and would like to get to know you better over a drink later this week. I know you're busy working right now, so why don't we exchange contact info real quick so I don't get you in trouble."

Works better if you haven't been going there and seen her loads, but either way, straight to the point no bullshitting around, confident, charming, attractive.

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