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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:56 am 
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I'm on a first date with an HB8 she tells me about the other guys she's dating but says I have nothing to worry about? WTF?? I really don't care about this chick, I just want to dominate her. But why would she do that?


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WHY?

obvious reasons

1) To assess your level of comfort with her having multiple partners and your feelings on the subject in general.
2) To DHV. Women have pre-selection switches and for some reason they think we do too. She is also taking away your power by showing that she has other options.
3) To test your confidence and emotional state.

She is probably picking up on your desire to dominate her and is pushing back. It's a shit test and if you win then she may enjoy you dominating her. I'll give you some advice but I need to admit that I think the statement "I don't care about this chick, I just want to dominate her." is weak, low class, low integrity, and morally disgusting. Are you really so pathetic that you need to dominate women in order to feel good about yourself? Some girls enjoy being dominated! It is totally okay to care and dominate together.

Maintain control of your emotions. if you even want to address it then say "I didn't realize we were in the point of our relationship to be discussing exclusivity. And to answer your question, you seeing other people probably won't push me away." In Double your Dating I learned that women like when you pick up on their underlying motives in speech and body language and respond as if it were a direct statement. It works for me and hopefully it will work for you.

If you want to go neg a little harder just say "of course I have nothing to worry about, I'm not even sold on a CASUAL relationship yet"

Some combination of words that shows that she hasn't taken away any of your control in the situation, dhvs you, and doesn't directly give her the answer she is looking for is probably best.

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In Double your Dating I learned that women like when you pick up on their underlying motives in speech and body language and respond as if it were a direct statement.
I kind of get this, but im not 100% on it. It seems like an amazing statement.
Maybe some more examples will help make it totally clear. I'm curious to learn more about this. How do you know what her direct statement is.

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WHY?

obvious reasons

1) To assess your level of comfort with her having multiple partners and your feelings on the subject in general.
2) To DHV. Women have pre-selection switches and for some reason they think we do too. She is also taking away your power by showing that she has other options.
3) To test your confidence and emotional state.

She is probably picking up on your desire to dominate her and is pushing back. It's a shit test and if you win then she may enjoy you dominating her. I'll give you some advice but I need to admit that I think the statement "I don't care about this chick, I just want to dominate her." is weak, low class, low integrity, and morally disgusting. Are you really so pathetic that you need to dominate women in order to feel good about yourself? Some girls enjoy being dominated! It is totally okay to care and dominate together.

Maintain control of your emotions. if you even want to address it then say "I didn't realize we were in the point of our relationship to be discussing exclusivity. And to answer your question, you seeing other people probably won't push me away." In Double your Dating I learned that women like when you pick up on their underlying motives in speech and body language and respond as if it were a direct statement. It works for me and hopefully it will work for you.

If you want to go neg a little harder just say "of course I have nothing to worry about, I'm not even sold on a CASUAL relationship yet"

Some combination of words that shows that she hasn't taken away any of your control in the situation, dhvs you, and doesn't directly give her the answer she is looking for is probably best.


CONFIRMED: jitz is my superhero! :D im totally taking notes. OP, the man knows his stuff.... take notes.... LOTS of notes.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:17 am 
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In Double your Dating I learned that women like when you pick up on their underlying motives in speech and body language and respond as if it were a direct statement.
I kind of get this, but im not 100% on it. It seems like an amazing statement.
Maybe some more examples will help make it totally clear. I'm curious to learn more about this. How do you know what her direct statement is.
The example DD uses is kind of like this.

A gross/filthy dude walks by you and your girl

She wrinkles her nose

you say "yea, I know he should clean up"

His example applies to body language. I applied it to reading true motivation.

You need to read between the lines. to use this on her motivations for speaking.
He also say s not to directly give a woman what she wants or answer her questions directly EVER! just buy his book because I'm not that good at doing both of these things at the same time. i often find myself doing on or the other.

A girl says "I don't sleep with people I just met"

You say "Oh, I didn't mean to make you feel slutty. I don't judge women like that! I mean it's your life and no one can live it for you."
(You don't ever verify that you don't think she is a slut. You just make it okay for her to be one)

Dont say "Oh, I respect that." and then drop your game.

She never said directly that you made her feel slutty but her motivation for saying what she said was to defend against accusations of being slutty. Get it? It's interesting, bold, assertive, and unpredictable.

Another example...
A girl says "does this dress make my ass look fat"

You say "You say, Nah, your big fat ass makes you ass look fat! Just playing, You know I'd hit it!

Don't say "no that dress looks good on you" That doesn't do anything for her or your game.

She isn't asking for fashion advice. She is asking you to validate her beauty and desirability. So do it , but not directly.

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WHY?

obvious reasons

1) To assess your level of comfort with her having multiple partners and your feelings on the subject in general.
2) To DHV. Women have pre-selection switches and for some reason they think we do too. She is also taking away your power by showing that she has other options.
3) To test your confidence and emotional state.

She is probably picking up on your desire to dominate her and is pushing back. It's a shit test and if you win then she may enjoy you dominating her. I'll give you some advice but I need to admit that I think the statement "I don't care about this chick, I just want to dominate her." is weak, low class, low integrity, and morally disgusting. Are you really so pathetic that you need to dominate women in order to feel good about yourself? Some girls enjoy being dominated! It is totally okay to care and dominate together.

Maintain control of your emotions. if you even want to address it then say "I didn't realize we were in the point of our relationship to be discussing exclusivity. And to answer your question, you seeing other people probably won't push me away." In Double your Dating I learned that women like when you pick up on their underlying motives in speech and body language and respond as if it were a direct statement. It works for me and hopefully it will work for you.

If you want to go neg a little harder just say "of course I have nothing to worry about, I'm not even sold on a CASUAL relationship yet"

Some combination of words that shows that she hasn't taken away any of your control in the situation, dhvs you, and doesn't directly give her the answer she is looking for is probably best.


CONFIRMED: jitz is my superhero! :D im totally taking notes. OP, the man knows his stuff.... take notes.... LOTS of notes.
I appreciate the vote of confidence but the fact is that I have a loooooong way to go. I am headed out tonight to try and apply the things that I learned form real PUA super heroes. Any advice or thoughts I have are directly learned from other peoples material. This forum is full of great thoughts!!! I just try my best to regurgitate what I have learned and apply to people when they ask for advice on situations. I just hope that when I need advice you will do the same for me, bro!

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Shit test.
I'd probably answer with a reframe like "You don't need to convince me someone else likes you, that's not how I make up my mind.".

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Shit test.
I'd probably answer with a reframe like "You don't need to convince me someone else likes you, that's not how I make up my mind.".
And a striking example of how someone can take the same knowledge/principles and execute it much better than I can. Kind of magical, man.

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Thanks Guys For All The Help! But I think this is the end with me and her. I had a day 2 set up but when I texted her to confirm she wrote me back. "No thanks I'm not interested in hanging out in bars" When she was the one that wanted me to take her there? I don't get it. You win some you lose some, not going to sweat this girl.


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@jits: i got yo back homie! still.... your my superhero! :D

@OP: sorry it didnt work out, like i said in another thread, move on, rinse and repeat :P


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Thanks Guys For All The Help! But I think this is the end with me and her. I had a day 2 set up but when I texted her to confirm she wrote me back. "No thanks I'm not interested in hanging out in bars" When she was the one that wanted me to take her there? I don't get it. You win some you lose some, not going to sweat this girl.
Just assume that she meant she wanted to hang out in your bedroom. "well we could just go to my place and watch a movie if you want." Then smash all night.

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Thanks Guys For All The Help! But I think this is the end with me and her. I had a day 2 set up but when I texted her to confirm she wrote me back. "No thanks I'm not interested in hanging out in bars" When she was the one that wanted me to take her there? I don't get it. You win some you lose some, not going to sweat this girl.
Just assume that she meant she wanted to hang out in your bedroom. "well we could just go to my place and watch a movie if you want." Then smash all night.

AH HA!!!

superhero's to the rescue! :D


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