Yo son, I'ma hijack my own thread for a minute. But has anyone ever told you that you look like tight eyez? The dude that krumps?

Lately I've been taking her number, entering her full name and number into my phone, immediately calling her phone, then she enters my name on her phone. The main reason I started doing this is it's a computer sciency optimization that saves one of us a step in the process, but I've also realized, it proves her number actually works. Having my name entered might also cut down on the "what is this random jackass number?" problem, although I don't think that's actually a big problem.

Guess I haven't run into gals who are trying to discreetly cheat on their boyfriends, so I guess I'll tone down if I ever run into that. Although I could say, "Just enter 'Plumber' or 'Mailman' or 'Back Door Man'." She can type any damn thing she wants for my name if she wants to be sneaky, after all. Hmm how about "Anne Frank." That's dark. "What's my nickname" could be quite a genre to clown.

I tried giving my number out the other day to 2 girls, had 1 add me on facebook which has now become really hard to arrange a date cause its easy to "delay" replies on facebook ie. she isnt online ect.. So in hindsite i shouldve got her number when i gave her mine and avoided the whole facebook thing!!

And the other txt me the next morning and turned out to be abit bitchy/weird...

@Kylec-I hate gaming on facebook;online in general.

Some how,the ball is in the womens' court.

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Yeah... thats never gonna happen with high self-esteem women. You got to realize that women also have limiting beliefs like us guys, and if it means not to call a guy just for the sake of not looking desperate, they won't call.

It's like when certain women see a handsome attractive guy, they create minimum eye contact just to show him that he has to make an effort and invest in order to get something.

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1. A high self esteem woman is MORE likely to call. Is this what you were trying to say?

2. I think those girls are in the minority. Like most men, the majority of women don't have any game plan but "smile and hope he likes me".

1. No. high self esteem women are less likely to call. Unlike low self esteem women, they know they can get men, so they won't be making any hustle to call him.

2. Women are way more damaged in the social-conditioning while having strict rules for dating, having sex etc. Guys are just social-conditioned by the social-conditioned women. Although, we sure are talking about SOME women, and not making any generalizations.

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1. If a high self esteem girl likes you, (which is what should happen had your initial convo gone right) then she will call.

She is confident in speaking to men, probably has some more experience, and as such is used to calling guys and going after them. More confidence, less nerves, more likel to call the guy she likes (i.e. YOU)

A low self esteem girl, is nervous and doesn't think she can get you, she probably won't even picking up the phone to dial thanks to her anxiety.

2. Is this the "women are more social" fallacy again. Google "women are more social, psychology"; if that is the line your arguing you may find the results a little surprising.

I can see there are both valid points of the argument here, hell i have used both strategies with no real difference. In reality i think that it comes down to the type of girl and where you place her on your personal list.

I have a very laid back/indirect game approach and maybe that effects why I would rather give out my number. As a general rule i never text anyone first, if you need to get in touch with me you know where i am use the number.

If one girl doesn't call you back is it a big deal? NO of course not you already have a handful of girls that you already talk to and hook up with during down time (at least i would hope every PUA does).

As I have said above, if there is a particularly juicy target that you are really after sure give her your number and commence the games.

good one. def. putting this to use...

In the end I don't think it matters too much. It all depends on the kind of interaction it is, and how the interaction goes.

Most of my number closes have actually been the girl asking for my number, which happens after five minutes or so in set. Giving your number to her without her asking for it can obviously sometimes come off as needy, but what if that girl wants your number and is too shy to ask? Sometimes offering your number is a good option.

It's all subjective and up to your interpretation when you're in set.

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well put Sharplin, every situation cannot be covered with a blanket response and the PUA should act accordingly.

@Sharplin, andd95.

Yes, every rule is meant to be broken, and PUA should act according to situation, but you do need some rules of thumb which will cover these 90% of situations. (i'm not talking about canned material) just few phrases which you like to throw in occasionally.

Sometimes I could be good to give your number, when a girl is working and she's giving ioi but it's a little bit dangerous for her reputation, you could play it smart by going to her with a piece of paper and say out loud: do you where I can find this Item, but right on the paper: play along, here's my number I didn't wanna get you in trouble while you're working,if the girl is interested she will play along and say: that direction you can find that item out loud, then you go to that direction.It shows that you can be discrete(sorry english isn't my official language),for some women it could build some attraction that she calls you later that day or text u

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I've tried this in the past with pretty poor results. Girls that were really in to me don't end up texting or calling. I'm better off getting their number or going on an insta-date.