monday 31st january 2011

location: L2 - Truro

goal: to speak to 5 strangers within the club, 2 of them decent looking girls.

we get in the club at 10:45 and left at 1:30 (it closes then).
everybody in the club was on the 2 dancefloors, the space aroudn the club was usually pretty empty and as the night got later the more empty the general place became, a famous DJ was playing apparently.

took me a while to get in the groove and when i felt it i realised everyone was all on the dancefloor.

Had a few words with barmaid and noted her eye colour.

Me and Megatron spoke to 2 girls (random1 and random2) on the dancefloor, the quieter less busy one, and we were just saying we were gay and they wanted to see us kiss, we said for them to kiss. As far as i could see we were just seeing what we could do to them and get away with lol.

kaleb randomly was giving this girl his number and she shook my hand but wouldnt let go - uh oh, i wasnt going there! haha

Finally i got into my own thing and at the bar i just asked some hot girl what she was drinking then how much it was which i had trouble even speaking as my voice always goes in situations like that.

i said hey to a few people walking passed or at the bar and again they either ignored me or didnt hear. im counting them as speaking to strangers because i was loud though! ill say 2 of them count frm my memory.

Towards the end of the night me and megatron were at the bar and i asked the barmaid for a drink and said for a "wkd, you choose the flavour", then drunk megatron started joking around saying i wanted the flavours and colours that they didnt have and every flavour was on display in front of us but she seemed to be loving it. teasing i guess.

then the next barmaid, who was a slamming blonde, we asked for a "water on the rocks and 2 shots of neat water" which turned into another big teasing thing and ended up doing shots of water with her.

after we left the club, we went into a fast food place and kaleb started asking random women for money and then another interaction which sparked an idea for an opener.

after that we saw random1 and random2 and we ended up macking both of them a bit but the one i was with, i dunno, i lost interest and couldnt be bothered in going to the fast food place she wanted, i fucked up there shouldve done anyway even if i didnt find her too hot.

then another interaction in which i heard a girls name being said and decided to be a long lost friend of her and wondered how she didnt know me, she didnt find it funny when i said i was joking haha.

lots of other non-pua related crazy stuff happened too

woohoo i accomplished my mission! and i realised im starting where i should be, at page 1 of the book!

Edit: i was sober throughout, i had about 4 drinks (1 unit each) and the last one was literally at closing hour. must stay sober.

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"You don't want girls to think you suck dick at fucking pussy"
-Seth (Superbad)

okay next time im out which hopefully should be thursday depending on transport, my mission is to speak to 5 women and get some small talk/jokes and keep playful with barmaids and barmen.

also after monday i realised one main reason i hate approaching; not knowing what to say.

I want to use an opener ive made up and its meant to be done in a playful manner

"hey, do you like nice guys?". Its the first opener ive came up with and its meant to be done in a jokey manner and it reflects well with me because i always joke around with people saying "im a nice guy! just so nice." and then megatron used it as a random drunken opener to some woman and it worked well.

then after the opener i'll use some role play things like "hey im going to adopt you" or tim's "hey youre going to be my girlfriend for the next 5 minutes".

Although my aim is just for 5 decent interactions with women, i want to have something planned if i build up social momentum to make an approach. I also seem to do best with women and interactions whilst doing that kinda humour maybe because its kinda how i am around friends.

***also forgot to mention that on sunday a barmaid came into the shop i work at and was like "hey i know you from last night you bought a drink off me". Maybe i read too much into the interaction but ya know.

anyway, i decided i will only even think to game/pick up women when im out on my nights out doing a mission or if im doing a day mission because i used to go around everday thinking i should of approached any hot girl i saw lmao.

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"You don't want girls to think you suck dick at fucking pussy"
-Seth (Superbad)

Exactly like me! I realized I was using bad openers. And when I use a good one, I don't have the reflex to keep the conversation going. The operation small talks will definitely help us!

Glad you're back!

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thursday 3rd february 2011

okay i went out to some club in a different town. This isnt apart of my mission, i was just out to get drunk and have fun because this club is only for drunk people. Its also really violent, women will attack you randomly and so will guys.

me, megatron, a 3 friends go out (2 of them were girls). i had a bit of chat with the people at the counter to get in etc. inside we just danced a bit and drank. randomly some guy me got chatting and because my name is 'barney' he was like "barney fucking stinson!!!" and he wanted to see me in action and i thought "hmmm at least he's getting me into action", so im literally frozen there with fear and he pushes me to move, anxiety is pulsing, like someone in a fucking horror film and i walk up to 2 sitted girls which turned out to be older but hot

then my fear just dropped as i said
"hey im shah" and shook both their hands and got chatting quickly, so i used "hey youre my girlfriend for the next 5minutes formula/routine",
"hey do you like nice guys? oh really, because im a nice guy " and a few other lines to help keep up conversation when needed.
ive clawed one of them, ask their names, turns out they were in the club because their friend's son was 18, i forget how we got onto the conversation but i had an Mutual carressing going on and we we're discussing about us 3 and whoever wanted to join us by having an orgy, they said i was really funny (for some reason i dont see that as a compliment lol) then i got started on by the friend's son, so i left and said it was great seeing them.

randomly me and some girl on the dancefloor hip bumped (on purpose) but nothing came of that

Then these promotions girls come over and ask if i want a shot
"yeah 2 shots of water, neat and ICE COLD", one laughed and the other already hated me lol
after a long talk based around water and buying me dinner, i was hugging one of them and holding hands, good EC, close proximity but because i hesitated because i was so shocked at what was happening i missed a chance at getting her number.

then realising it must be pepsi not coca cola that the bar served, i started having stomach cramps and spent half the night in a ball on the floor trying to explain to passers-by that i wasnt drunk and the problems with pepsi....

as i went to get my coat at the counter, 2 girls were there and i just questioned them on there band and got talking, one of them was throwing the rips and hate at me so i was like "hey im a nice guy, lets be friends" whilst the other said she was an anime fan but hadnt seen AKIRA wtf! anyway megatron ended up getting her number as i was too busy talking about how im a nice guy to the other girl.

saw promotions girl again but mid way her boyfriend came over and started on me, being drunk i was trying to tell him of how im a nice guy, probably annoyed and overstayed my welcome to both, so i left.

lesson: being drunk makes me an idiot. a big idiot. Tonight is me completing my mission IF i can actually get out the house. Although i was drunk i noticed that shit tests and frame control had sunk in a bit more than usual, sober or drunk.

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"You don't want girls to think you suck dick at fucking pussy"
-Seth (Superbad)

topic

- making my field reports and journal more effective for me to learn from and concise, to make learning easier. I noticed how well afcdaniel's was set out and ill try to emulate that a little.

- get out more, didnt go out at all over the weekend. no one to go out with really unless i wanted to spend some money going out of town (trying to budget a little) and i really wasnt up for night game alone lol.

tomorrow

issue: social shyness

cure: speak to chicks in the least forward, intrusive and low risk way.

this will: get me speaking to women which if i keep it up, will allow me to fuck bitches.

monday 7th february 2011

Going out to a club, mission small talk with 5 women and attempt a new opener i made up with 3 women.

the opener is actually a copy of a TylerDurden opinion opener "do girls find the rockstar david bowie hot?" but mine is "do girls find the actor shaun connery hot?", because i think he is more well known in my culture (im guessing) and i actually knew a girl who found shaun connery was hot even though she was 16 and this means i dont have to lie.

with the opener i do not have to go any further, simply be inquisitive about a question.


few notes

* i dont get a chance to day game, which means that a good portion of my life (considering i may go out at night for 4hours, 3 times a week) is spent not doing social things.

* Need to be consistent with going out. Means i need more variety of groups of friends to go out with.

* need to add proper structure to my days and get work/revision/filmmaking done.

-- i feel its college holding me down and the fact ive been in college in my fourth year, most people are finished after their second year and in uni straight after. This sense of staleness is affecting me quite badly grrr.

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"You don't want girls to think you suck dick at fucking pussy"
-Seth (Superbad)

monday 7th february 2011

issue: social anxiety

cure: speak to women as low key as possible. chat to 5 women or speak to them and if they dont respond, it counts.

what happened: Went out, got there around 10pm and stayed till 2 but i didnt even do one bit of small talk. I mean i got into a few conversations and flirting with a few women but that was because they randomly said something to me (none attractive). i was just procrastinating and in-head and by the end of the night when i had 1 or 2 chances to make the conversation but missed out on them because i just got paranoid about them thinking i was a creep lol.


More i do this, more i notice how socially shy i really am. Way more than i first thought.

mission failed.

- repeat mission till i accomplish it
- get out more; monday, friday, saturday.
- do something during days that break you out of your shell a little.
- get good sleep, when im sleep deprived i notice how negative and anti social i get (cranky).

tomorrow - wednesday 9th january 2011

- speak to 3 cashiers, small talk
- get the time off a woman
- get directions off a woman

As long as its not raining, when its raining it gets in my glasses and the dampness of my clothes doesnt make me feel too confident.

Its annoying as i watch all my friends sit and drink, play drinking games and be drunk then go into clubs and because they all are drunk, they end up at least approaching and getting women. grrrrrr, i like getting drunk.
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"You don't want girls to think you suck dick at fucking pussy"
-Seth (Superbad)

Does anyone have any ideas on how to break down AA in the club?

i know there's the newbie challenge about saying 'hi' but i thought that was just for daygame but i might try it one night.

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"You don't want girls to think you suck dick at fucking pussy"
-Seth (Superbad)

VALENTINES DAY

i didnt really have any real plans for this day in terms of what missions to accomplish. Just going out for the sake of it.
I was going to go to a quietish bar but i knew the people i would be out with wouldnt be up for it. Id have to go straight from home to club, sober, no building up. . .

We got in the club and it was dead as it was early, we sit down after getting a drink behind us are a group of girls who my friend says something about them staring at us or something, so i turn around and im like "hey what you staring at?" playful accusational way, one girl says she forgot her glasses and she has to squint to see about the place and im like "same", as i really had forgot my glasses. little convo then it ends. should have furthered the interaction.

slowly the night builds and it gets busy a few hours later, some girls we've seen and spoke to on a few nights are out and i call them over whilst they were being sluts grinding some guy. so i say theyre sluts for being like that and they dance a bit, they seem to love grinding, i walk off.

i was outside with those 2 girls later and i made out with one of them and the other one was asking to do something where you smoke and blow it into each other's mouths, i dont really smoke but i could think of worse things to do at the point, then i go for a three way make out "hey lets all make out" (courtesy of Vaj's post), at this point both were clawed on either side. One of them wasnt up for it, then i gave the girl who was up for it a hickey and left after some more joking around.

My friend was macking some girl and one of her friends was walking over, i thought "cockblock maybe?", so i walked up to her before she could speak to them and realised it was the glasses girl from earlier

Me: glasses
Her: what?
Me: you and me, dont have our glasses on
Her: oh yeah!!! something something something
Me: something something

we pinky-promised and we didnt let go, (60's pinky promise?) and she said how she was spilling her drink, so i lent over and sipped her straw.

her:oh my god! what! *she sipped my drink*

we flirted by drinking each others drinks for a while but i didnt really know what to do after all this, you know, real conversation, i cant dance for shit and i feel like a tool for twirling girls, so it thistled out.

walked over to Megatron who was with some girl at the table, shook her hand, didnt let go but then i thought "oh yeah megatrons getting with her i guess" so i let go and just sat there really made a bit of conversation just fluff talk. She put her hand on mine to empthasis points and we had quite a bit of eye contact going on but kept remembering "oh yeah megatron's gal"

i found out later, he wasnt macking her even though i sorta did the eye look and eye brows thing, to which he responded with the nod. damn. . .she was hot, real hot.

the girls i was going for a three-way-make-out with came over and the one up for it (lets call her hbslutty) kept asking to give me a hickey but hickeys are fucking lame and gay, i just did it on her because it was funny. so i said she could give me one if she could get a three way make out going, she tried to convince her friend butu she wouldnt.


on the way out of the club in line for getting my jacket, i said to some girls in front of me "hey let me push", they were like "what what?" then at the counter i chatted to them for a bit but they werent my type, couldnt feel any sexual state or anything so i said "nice speaking, see ya" and walked off. I was just taking advantage of it being quiet and well lit, an enviroment i work better in. Went home and watched Matrix reloaded, the end.

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"You don't want girls to think you suck dick at fucking pussy"
-Seth (Superbad)

Okay, i was reading TylerDurden Archive on mASF and i really like his stuff. Ive watched a bit fo Foundations and Blueprint too. I feel like i learnt a lot from his archive though and he makes some really good points. smart guy.

im going to plan out a set of Openers, a few quick stories or lines for hooking and gambits. This was i will be able, theoretically, to walk into the places i go sarge and get into a mutual conversation with them. I will obviously plan the openers and routines/lines on the places i go to, so they may have some relevance or the opposite for contrast (breaks the frame of 2 people in a bar talking about the bar, capture their imagination etc).

He also explained opinion openers well and now i dont see them as lame as everybody makes them out to be. Ill update all this when ive got them.

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"You don't want girls to think you suck dick at fucking pussy"
-Seth (Superbad)

sat down and wrote 7 openers;

hey do girls find the rockstar david bowie hot? because my friend has a gigantic poster of him on her wall, claims he's the hottest guy on earth. Do you think its because he's creative? (Tyler Durden)

Hey who do you thinks hotter Pixie Lott or Kesha? im friend, she claims they look exactly the same (I think i heard RG say that one on chat but i remember it vaguely)

Hey do girls like nice guys? the reason im asking is because im friend is always talking about how she only goes for nice guys but everytime i see with a guy, he's always the cockiest ass who doesnt ring her back for a week. that's not nice is it.

(daytime in a shop) what do you think, is a good present for a sister, she's like 18. after a sister turns 16 everything goes out the window, brothers cant pick presents.

I dont know what to do drink, whatve you got there? oh i wont have that then, whats good to drink (this can lead on to being new in the place even if im not and then get onto going to new places outside of the club)

Hey why is it guys always have Iphones, but girls, always have Blackberrys (because this isnt true im sure itd get onto a discussion and onto something else quickly)

Are Ugg boots attractive on guys? See girls always think they started the ugg boot fashion but they were for guys for like a 100years before girls started wearing them.


Im going to try these low risk openers out, as increasing my opening is all i want at the moment because increasing my opening means i can learn to get the first step down to a T and also gives me more opportunities to socialise with girls.


by saturday night i will have field tested them all, no foolies. Will get back to you on them. OH IF ANYONE can give me advice on how to improve them or other ones to use, i would be TRULY grateful. Infact, just anything on opening/approaching.

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"You don't want girls to think you suck dick at fucking pussy"
-Seth (Superbad)

THURSDAY 17TH FEBRUARY 2011

went out but just to get drunk, opened one set and it went kinda well, got kinda far with kino but i trailed off on convo, which is my weakness.


SATURDAY 19TH FEBRUARY 2011

mission: 5 convos with women.

i got drunk, quite drunk but not wasted or anything. Didnt get into a bar till past 11 as everyone i go out with are just plain annoying me now.

in bar chatted to barmaid a little.

anyway moved onto club and i ended up in the queue by myself for ages and some tall girl in front looked at me, so i thought id playfully acuse her of cutting in line.

me: hey did you cut in line?

her: what! NO! (angry. . . )

me: hey it was only a joke. blah blah just making conversation

guy she was with : youre chatting up the wrong girl

Me: uh yeah, just being friendly but whatever

him: oh yeah maaaaaate *drunken 'alpha talk so i stopped listening'*

(2) still in the queue later and some hot girl fixing her shoe back on bumped into me, we had a good convo and i mentioned about the earlier interaction and we were like "oh yeah we're nice people, no one else is nice around here", i didnt escalate from there so it fizzled out. she was a HB9 for sure too, guess i wasnt expecting a good reaction.

(3) 2 girls at the bar so i asked them whats good and cheap to drink on a saturday night as i dont usually come here on a saturday night, so they both gave me the cold shoulder so i was like,

me: seriously i just wanted to know of a good drink around here, thats all. (as i was)

(4) some girl came up next to me in the bar and as we were both waiting to get served she looked at me with a smile, so i just started saying its cool she's being nice and we chatted and vibed quite well but then she took something i said the wrong way around and kinda walked off. this girl was not attractive to me.


(5) i just said 'hey' to some girl who gave me the "dont even think about it" look and head shake, lol, she was hot.


thats all the cold approaches and convos that happened that night. there was some other stuff with a girl who came out with us who i met but thats too long and complicated for me but it ended in a bummer.

next time

due to money im giving night game a miss for a month, ill focus on DAY GAME; 3-5 approaches a day, 5 days a week, making conversation.


some realisation i had

ive noticed that when im chatting, being friendly, trying to get them to laugh etc, girls seem less attracted to me and my successes have always came from an angle where im not trying as hard, im being quite blunt, almost cold towards them and easily willing to lose them attitude.

Ive realised this before but its becoming more and more apparent. Im going to act like this more around women than my being funny and i guess as puas call it "the entertainer", "try hard"

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"You don't want girls to think you suck dick at fucking pussy"
-Seth (Superbad)

inner game/new direction


thought id mention something that i was thinking about last night. I feel that when trying to approach or even converse with women/people in general ive been acting differently, copying people who are good with women or seem authorative etc.

I dont like it, i feel im not being true to myself, id rather be a more confident me rather than just picking up other peoples traits. I think this is a big realisation, not that it hadnt come across my mind before but last night it sunk in, because a lot of pua gurus and methods essientally try to get you to copy their personality.

skills that have sunk in

Ive noticed kino has now sunk in very well, just lightish kino, id say up to the claw and maybe even grabbing a girls thigh or grabbing both shoulders whilst explaining a point or something, not nessessarily being sexual but definitely letting people be used to my touch and ME being comfortable doing it. Now i feel that stuff is becoming second nature more so. I can and have gotten further kino but that is quite concious and guessing unless im joking around or being a dick or something.


Ive noticed my speech is slowing down more so, this is good as ive been working on this daily for a long time or at least attempting to slow down speech in the days (sometimes i wouldnt know if im speaking slowly to someone or not). I still slip up and ill run over my words and stutter etc but thats not so often and ill usually stop, pause, slow down, repeat. This has come at the price of probably sounding like a weirdo and over enunciating words and speaking weirdly slowly to people but its worth it, i think i overdid the slowness and pronounciation but now i let it ride more freely. I remember i first tried sorting it out back in the summer.

^^^^ Seriously proud of myself and happy to see improvements, i was too paranoid of my fast speach, unclearness, stuttering because i didnt think i had any improvements so then id slow down even more but its cool now. I made a genuine change to myself, woohoo.


Just need to keep it in check everyday

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"You don't want girls to think you suck dick at fucking pussy"
-Seth (Superbad)

tomorrow im going upto a city for a university interview and ima do some day game or something, just approach 5 women for some reason or another.

opener to use "Do you know somewhere i could find a coffee that isnt a starbucks around here?" or just ask for simple directions too as ill be a lost little puppy.

literally havent been able to game the past 2 days as i was busy with getting a portfolio together and my new job which left me too tired to even open my voice to one lady in a supermarket this tuesday morning.

so yeah, tomorrow, busy city, cant think of any reason not too. Might be tired but that shouldnt stop me, im a machine.

I like this daygame opener too, as i have actually started to sit in coffee shops whilst writing my next script.

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"You don't want girls to think you suck dick at fucking pussy"
-Seth (Superbad)

Daygame

Mission : Speak to 5 strangers/


1 - Said hey to some girl as i was waiting to the elevator, she replied back, didnt carry on convo.

2 - Saw a girl and a guy, so i sked them for directions to my interview, they didnt seem to know as they were just students

3 - Asked some girl about the interview room, so i said id wait with her, we ended up having a good 10minute chat about media and film

4 - Spoke to some kid next to me in the room about how his interview went, just vibed for a bit.

5 - Spoke to another guy about how his interview went and shot the shit again, i hadnt had mine yet

- Got university placement-

6- Spoke to some guy i saw in the room in the elevator about w/e till we left the building and got in the car. Was good.

Notes

Was good, i should have 'name intro'd' and switched topics to something more personel with the girl3, got some kind of Kino going. Daygame is so different to nightgame too.


Next time

5 strangers again, make 1 some form of real approach.

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"You don't want girls to think you suck dick at fucking pussy"
-Seth (Superbad)

monday 01/03/11

mission: speak to 5 random women in the club.

I was sober as always.

1 At the bar in a LOUD CLUB and spoke to girl and then her 2 friends for minute. It was friendly, jokey talk. Still it felt like it was in Limbo, like i couldnt really progress the conversation even on a friend frame.

2 At the same place at the bar later (its quieter there), 2 girls are talking so i just say something off of whatever they said "hey i dont think you should start anything" they laughed and we high 5'd and i ended up taking a photo for them. One girl seemed kinda interested but i guess i just didnt feel i could progress it.

3 After i left the club, outside a girl was swore and i pretended it was me she was swearing at. We spoke for a bit and she carried on her way.

4 In the fast food place i spoke to a girl about her food, as i wanted it. Then although i knew she wasn't interested i just introduced myself with a handshake and name. I bailed because i got a lack of interest from her. I just name intro'd because it was the end of the night and i felt i may as well do it for learning sake.

Tbh i thought id spoken to 5 women but i guess not haha.

Evaluation

- Need to speak to hotter women.

- I'm doing it completely sober and although i was dead tired i still went out.

- I was dressed in terrible clothes which i felt self-conscious in (put wrong shirt on whilst in a rush).

- CONSISTENCY, need to be going out 4 times a week at least. I work weekends and its hard to get to the City i go gaming in sometimes. Need to go out in hometown to keep CONSISTENCY up.

- Push interactions further, need a default way of switching conversation from opener.

- Ive noticed i open best when hearing them say something and bouncing off of that. Need to get used to saying scripted openers and then ANY KIND OF WAY TO SWITCH OFF FROM IT. This goes in hand with furthering each interaction.

- If i had the confidence to open directly I'd be better at furthering the conversation etc as we're on a better frame, rather than randomly talking for no reason.

- I need to stop spending time sitting with friends just talking. If i had a wing that'd be cool as i want to play a game where you say to each other "okay you go speak to those women" then you take it turns telling each other who to approach. It'd just give me that extra push as Ive done similar things before that have worked.

next time

Mission: speak to 5 women, make interactions go further and better.

*Does anyone think this is a better layout? Anybody got an honest opinions of what they think of me? I know I'm slow at this game* Be as honest and constructive as you can

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"You don't want girls to think you suck dick at fucking pussy"
-Seth (Superbad)