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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:19 am 
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[In hindsight this post is much longer than I thought it would be. Ooops!]

Okay, so I guess my posts seem to be suffering the case of TLDR. So to prevent this, I've just wrapped the entire weekend into one post. Pick and choose what you like. I'm going to try to recap as many of the engagements as I can remember. There were a lot...

First Sarging in El Paso

Fri Night

#1 5-set, HB7
Open, DHV, Neg, DHV, No #-close b/c AA. See the post "FR#1: And Let the Games Begin..." for more details

#2 3-set, HB7
Open, Neg, DHV, No #-close b/c Brother was a douche - should've gamed the bro first, but didn't realize he was with them.

[Venue Change]

#3 Cocktail Waitress, HB7
Open, Neg, seems attracted, but she was too busy to escalate further.

#4 3-set HB6
Open, kino, she stares at me and seems to like what she sees. My wing was rushing me out so I #-close w/in minutes - complete Buyer's Remorse. No response from text.

#5 2-set HB6s
Open, Neg, but they barely speak English and communication is further muddled by loud music. Forced out of the set after the bouncer realizes that I wasn't in VIP with those girls. Nuff said...

[Venue Change]

#5 3-set, HB?
Open, but don't quite remember the full interaction. They didn't seem interested so the convo was short. Complete sausage fest, so left the venue for more prospects.


[Venue Change]

#6 2-set, HB8
Open, but its loud and lesbo matriarch starts cawing at me like a crow. There dancing so I can't really de-escalate. AFOG'd, is that possible?

#7 4-set HB7
Open, DHV, Kino, but all married women whose husbands were away. Could've taken advantage, but scruples chiseled at my conscience.

[Venue Change]

#8 5-set, HB8
Open only her, because she is turned away from set. Probably a mistake. Neg, DHV, Kino, but AMOG friend approaches and diverts attention before I can gain a foothold.

#9 2/3-set, HB5
Open, not sure if I opened or joined my friend in a group he opened. But, they weren't too hot and her breath smelled like fishsticks.

#10 2-set, HB8, HB9
Open, Neg, Neg, Neg, DHV, DHV, Neg, but could never win over the HB9 (I was actually gaming for the HB8). Environment was loud so my best aspect (my mouthpiece) was 'utterly' useless.

[Venue Change]

#11 2-set, HB7
Open, chica loco starts talking about how her friend is being bullied by some guy. The guy was definitely an AFC AMOG and was definitely pissed at her friend. Started to engage, but thought "why the fuck do I care?"

Sat

[Mall]

#1 HB6
Open, Neg, walked after I realized she was not 18.

#2 HB8
Open, Neg, Neg, DHV, this girl cut my wing’s hair at Regis. She was cute and had an artistic flair about her. Wanted to close, but although she was open, I think she was just being polite for her job. I don’t know, she was tough to read. I re-open her on Sunday and find out some interesting info…

[UTEP Campus]
This place is completely dead on the weekends. Damn, does nobody at that school believe in studying or meeting friends in the café or something. It was a huge disappointment. We hoped to attract some college hotties.

#3 HB3/4
Yea, she wasn’t even worth opening, but I wanted to try this # trick on her to see what kind of response I would get. The trick worked, but she seemed more offended than impressed. She had mathwork out, so I’m guessing she was an engineer of some sort and perhaps felt like I insulted her intelligence. Well, honestly I’m glad she looked like she needed to be knocked down a couple of pegs.

#4 2-set HB8, Guy
I didn’t open, but I joined my friend and found out some crucial information about some of the social dynamics of El Paso and where to find the hot spots. My wing was after the HB8, but it didn’t seem to be going anywhere (couldn’t tell if she was here with the guy or what). Guy was cool enough to give us his contact info so hopefully we can utilize it to find some HB zones.

#5 2-set HB5
I wasn’t attracted to them. I just wanted to practice opening and seeing as our attempt at daygame had not been working out very well I figured it was time to give up on expectations and just start practicing the mechanics. I open with the # routine, but one of their bfs comes up and informs me that there in hs. I don’t care, so I continue and the bf butts in and gives the answer (correctly I might add), which kills the vibe so I exit. Smart kid, but was definitely settling for an HB5 when he could do better.

Nighttime

#6 3-set HB?
There was no point with this set except for practice and loosening up for the nightgame sarging. I am in my car when I see this set park next to me. I thought it would be fun to try and fake an English accent, so I start talking to them and immediately they sense something is off with my accent. But, they continue talking with me and then I tell them I’d like to smoke some ‘ganja’ (lol, I didn’t think people actually referred to it as that anymore). So the HB7 goes back into her car and comes back with a nugget of kush – the good stuff! I didn’t think she was going to actually bring me weed so I joked around and told them that I worked for the government as the HB7 was going to the car. The look on her friends’ faces when she came back to hand me the weed… Priceless! They jetted after that.

[The Garden, now things really get rolling]

#7 3-set HB6
Open, Neg, DHV, Kino, I should’ve #-closed, but couldn’t work up the balls – classic AA. Plus, I wanted to continue making my rounds and she wasn’t that hot. There were plenty more HB8/9s running around.


#8 2-set HB7
Open, Neg, Neg, Neg, DHV, Kino, #-Close. This HB7 had an enormous ego. She used to work at the nightspot we were in and expected to be treated like royalty, I guess. But, of course this just made me neg her more. It made it even easier because she had a shy and much less attractive friend with her. As, I’m sarging, my wing joins and I think he does the ESP trick and it actually works. My wing had been having a rough night so this was a great time for him. He ended #-closing with my target (I #-closed her less attractive friend out of respect ). The way the set was going either one of us could have probably #-closed her, but she was closer to him and they really did look good together :) Hope you read this sexrex (lol!)

#9 2-set HB8
Open, Neg, DHV, they were having a difficult time having fun. Everything was going well, but they were just so boring and seemed to really be looking for someone else for her friend to talk to. I’d lost my wing so I was on my own and didn’t know any other sets nearby. Told them I’d be back, but forgot.

#10 5-set HB7
Open, Neg, DHV, DHV, DHV, DHV! I was moving around to so many sets tonight (and I only mention women here, but there were several men sets I opened just for practice) that these cougars were mesmerized by my energy. The only obstacle I disarmed with the opener, “Can you do me a favor… Could you smile, it looks good on you.” It worked like a charm, and then throughout the night I would continue to stop by and hang with them. They were attractive for a mature crowd, but there were just too many more nubile and attractive options. Should’ve #-closed them though.
#11 5-set HB8
Open, Neg, don’t remember much else. They were there for a friends bday party so I talked to the HB8 and the bday girl for a bit, but they left to go to the restroom, and by time they got back I was off opening another set. Tried to come back around later, but never got the chance to reopen.

#12 2-set HB8
Open, Neg, Neg, DHV, Neg, Kino, Kino! Both of the women were HB8s, but the one I was interested in was shorter, but she was wasted! I’m talking with her for a while. She’s grabbing all over me, and then I’m thinking about kissing her, but her breath smells like monkey ass. I’m feeling pretty good as well so I actually offer some gum (this is repulsive now that I think about it, where the hell could that mouth have been to smell like that, don’t even wanna know), but I then got cockblocked by some bloke who shows up out of the blue (guess I know where her mouth was now). Apparently they came together. Tried to pull her away, but ran off before I could. I should’ve just moved on to her friend who seemed to be feeling me too. Could that have worked?


Conclusion

[if you made it this far, what the hell are you doing with your life… No just kidding, thanks for reading. Any advice you have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.]

Overall, it was a great weekend out in EP! I wish we would have had more success #-closing (or f-closing), but I was pretty happy with my performance. I think that I overcame a lot of the AA that I would normally have. I think the adventures have just begun.

“Laissez les bons temps rouler” - Let the good times roll!


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Your % of #closing is WAY TOO LOW even for a newbie.

If you #close 10% of your openers you won't go anywhere.

It looks like you are able to open with confidence, and get your way into comfort smoothly enough. After the lock in and the hook, just ask for number in a subtle way.

Like "It's a a pity I dont have your contacts, we could meet up and have fun together again"

You can even drop a sentence like this "randomly" in the middle of your interaction, without asking directly for number.

If you build enough comfort and attraction, after some time, THEY will ask your number when you're trying or pretend to eject with FTC.

P.S. if you are sarging, DONT DRINK, of if you drink, DONT GET DRUNK


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Yea man, I've got mad AA. I agree that I definitely should have #-closed way more than that. I guess it hasn't been something I've been concentrating on at the moment. I certainly will be working much harder next time (hopefully this weekend) to #-close.

I drank a small amount before the Saturday night sarge, but it was really insignificant to my normal drinking. I want to get to the point where I'm not drinking at all, I hate using it as a crutch to inhibit my AA.

Thanks for the advice damrini. I've obviously got a long way to go.


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Boheme,

I too am surprised you were unable to # close with much success considering the number of sets you opened, but I understand this is one of your sticking points. I applaud your efforts, however, because I find opening and maintaining conversation a challenge. This appears to be one of your strong suites, whereas, # closing is one of mine. We are opposites in that way. Perhaps, we have much to learn from one another.

I would like to know what motivates you to open sets. Do you feel any anxiety when opening and in the middle of conversation or is it primarily when you get to that point when you're wondering if you should ask for the #?

In regards to # closing, I would like to share with you a strategy that I employ that helps me sometimes. When I get to that point when I know it's time to seal the deal and make an exit, I too get nervous, but I imagine the word, "plow" in my head. I then visualize myself standing in darkness, enveloped in a long shadow cast by a great wall. Sunlight beams from behind the wall, however I’m unable to see beyond it. It is a representation of my doubt and insecurity. As such, it is the only thing separating me from my freedom from this personal purgatory. I then picture myself breaking through this wall as I attempt to # close. Whether she gives me her # or not is irrelevant. In the end, I find myself standing on the opposite side of the wall, rubble beneath my feet, staring at beautiful new world that I would not have known about had I not "plowed" through it.

I hope this helps you.

The Leading Man


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