i might possibly do the impossible and get out of the friendzone.. im soo close, but cant seal the deal / get the balls to go for it.. and I NEED HELP / ADVICE / ENCOURAGEMENT!!

so i met this girl when she was girlfriends with one of my best friends a year ago.. we hit off great, but kept our relationship as just friends.. never really flirted much cus he was one of my best friends.. so anyways, my friend brokeup with her 6 months ago.. and now ive been hanging out with her for like 3 months.. mainly one-on-one.. and ive slowly amped up the flirting.. but we're still not touchy or anything..

anyways.. ie really upped my value around her and DHV. she thinks im attractive (learned when we were jokingly talking) and ive been on my game with her.. seriously ive never had a girlfriend b4 (im 19) and i used to be such an AFC but when im around this girl she just makes me a natural and i spiit incredible game.. its weird. i actually have a connection with this girl.. but its really hard to turn this from friends into gf/bf.

ANOTHER THING: my other friend with basically no game kind of fell for her too a couple months ago.. and he straight up asked her to go out with him and she rejected him lol.. so we have weird history. ive never had a girlfriend before.. and to figure all this drama shit out to get this girl has been soo complicated for me hahaa.. its insane. but im pretty sure she digs me. im very push pull with her and am pretty sure she likes me back..

but shes a really flirty girl with all guys.. she gives so many shit tests its insane... and i conquer all of them and have really proved myself to her.. ive partied with her and hooked up with other girls at parties with her around to create jelousy.. but seriouslly.. i like this girl. and im pretty sure she likes me but she flirts with everyone so i cant tell. she fooled my friend.

so my plan is just keep hanging out with her. push-pull. jealous and talk like im a sexual male and talk about girls and shit.. to make her think im more of a man who dates rather than just the friend.. but seriously this is mind raking.. i cant handle it lol. ive never been too touchy with her cus we're friends.. but damn i think what i need to do is do more and more subtle kino.. and then when i find the right moment just go for the kiss rather than ask her to date me.. more electric and in the moment rather than my noob friend just asking her out lol.

but damn any advice? such a complicated and frustrating situation. but seriously this girl makes me feel soo good. we have amazing conversations and she's all i can think about.. and she loves hanging out with me.. but she has lots of male friends and this shit is just too hard with our history for me to just put myself out there because we've been friends for soo long.. but ive been waiting too long. i cant live with myself haha. FUCK FUCK FUCK haha any help / advice?!?!! i think i just need to grab my balls, be extra flirty one day, and kiss her and see what happens.. but fuck thats soo hard.. and would be humiliating if she rejected me. ive never been rejected by a girl cus im good with girls (i used to be a complete afc but have improved soo much its weird).. (ive never had a gf, just hookups, im 19) but still damn.. this girl drives me crazy. my emotions are all over. any advice?? ahhhhhh i need expert help!!!!! im soooo close, yet not there. i believe i can actually get out of friendzone here.. she smiles and laughs at all my jokes. aAHHHHH FUCK ME. i wish she was jsut a tiny bit more flirty so i knew and just went for it. but she keeps me on edge.

dang this went to page 2 with no response.. can i get any advice guys? this chick is soo hard to read ahhhhh

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Dude,

I agree with Tweeby. I am going out on a limb and I am usually right. What I have picked up from your post is that you are "in love" with her. Used the quotes because it is a term I don't really use or believe in but I can see that you have formed a pair bond with this girl and I am sorry. I think you have already blown it. I don't want to be the one to burst you bubble but you have failed. If you played the game correctly I think you could have been with her. There is obviously a connection between you or else you guys would not have been hanging out and shit.

I just went out for a smoke and I decided that you haven't lost... Yet... Just do not telegraph neediness and too much interest. Dude, if what you are doing isn't working try something else. Worst case scenario... And I do not recommend this... Talk to her... Tell her how you feel and wait for the LJBF speech. If you don't have the balls you are not going to get with her...

I personally would have cut my losses long ago and would have moved on but I also get AFC reversion syndrome. Going back to old AFC ways and falling for woman... I prefer not to but we all have different reasons for playing the game and honestly, the moment that you give one person this much value you have usually lost. What I would have done is let her go, not speak to her, get hot pivots to hang out with and go to places you know she'd be... Use the jealousy plotline.

To become great at the game do exactly what women do to men... Make yourself the prize, tell her that you are happy you met but you wanna just be friends, make yourself the victim when you do something wrong... I hope you get what I am trying to say. I know the email is a little all over the place but hidden within there are several strategies you can try. Find them and make them work for you

Vince had a great point. You need to do more pushing and less pull. If i were you I would change up how i act with her and act as just her friend and act way more disinterested. Give her the LJBF vibes so she wants you more. be the prize and then go get it, but you can't act needy. Make her come to you

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Thanks Mills... I wrote an entire essay to try and get that accross. Thanks for simplifying it

Hate to say this but this is very simple, if you think you are then you are. Just as they say for a kiss close, if you think its time, its time.

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