I've scan the Mystery Method I've never fully read it or studied it. But really? Don't you want to be comfortable with someone after you work yourself up and start attraction with a girl? I'm not the routine kind of guy but I just want to be comfortable thats just me I suppose.


Yeah we probably did but chances are we probably left them too.

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lol who are these rules for? women that dont want to ever hold a relationship cuz their cold, rude and uninviting? also if theres enough attraction then a women will break all of those rules. and if there IS that much attraction but she doesnt break the rules then she will be heart broken when he soon leaves her.

A women who "obeys" the rules: DLV

Just like a good looking guy who fucks up and "demonstrates lower value" a hot chick who comes off with a bad personality, and the kind of attitude promoted in "the rules" shows low value to me. Many of perceive a girl having high value cause she is a HB9-10 or whatever. But I've met many women who are from 7-10 who demonstrate low value simply cause of their personality.

I've been in the community for three years, and after practising MM and getting results, practising GWM and getting results and now the past year doing my own thing and getting results. I've come to the conclusion that I have no idea what "attraction" actually consists of and what its role is, though I do have my theories.

So "starting attraction" and "after attraction" are phrases I find very much to be rather contrived as a premise.

A guy using 60s method would never go on a date with this girl. He would just take her home and f*ck her, cos after all she still wants sex. She would have a nice one night stand and let the "mr.right" wait cos the rules say so.

those rules are gay.

I think these rules are a little outdated, showing disinterest is a good thing for a girl, but I think the "rules" take it too far. If the guy's a guy you like, he's probably good with women. He'll easily replace you if he doesn't think it's happening, or you seem too semi interested. A girl who dresses herself up very well, always looks her best, and is sexually teasing is the one that'll attract him. Turn him on with a sexual gesture then make him wait for it. ( I had a girl who once walked up to me in a club licked lollipop in front of me and winked, then wouldn't let me touch anything but her waste all night.... it was very frustrating) Once you have sex, keep him jealous.

Actually, I read this and hope women adopt some of this stuff

If women become even more difficult to approach, it will narrow the field

AFCs will go from having a minimal chance with women to absolutely no chance

Naturals will have to re-evaluate their methods

And Community guys, well we've already jumped ahead. We figured out how to crack the social methods of Women before, and many of the ideas in the community already combat these things, and really there's no reason to believe we won't find holes in these rules

Also think about it... Guys in the Community are a minority among men. Even if you include naturals the majority of men are AFCs

On that note, only a minority of women will take these rules seriously. And unless some kind of community arises for women paralleling the pick up community, most will just read it and forget it. These rules really don't have the ability to be upgraded, revised and expanded like our own stuff.

Think about it, if a woman reads she shouldn't make eye contact with a man she is attracted to, she could try it.

She's going to see a guy she is attracted to, and not look him in the eye. If he has approach anxiety, he defiantly won't approach without an invitation like eye contact. That guy will disappear, and she won't meet him. Even if she keeps this up, she will have less and less guys approaching her. And unless she is particularly attractive, this will be a huge moral hit to her. She's going to abandon the rules just to get that attention back and feel attractive again.

So really, let em read "The Rules", Whats the worst that can happen?

... Not to mention if she's as distant as the Rules would have her be, no guy is really going to keep chasing her without a severe case of One-Itis!

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I'd say it like this man, a lot of girls do the dates "by the book" (by those rules), but I think that these is some unnecessary BULLSHIT, why should a guy ALWAYS pay for a date and always make things happen, I mean don't get me wrong it's good to do that sometimes, but if you think it out we 're all equal men, women... And the accual bottom line of dating is "to seduce (a girl) and to be seduced (by girl), that's mutual attraction.

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Roz you are clearly a woman so Im going to ask this to you directly (im not saying that you follow these rules or that following them necessarily bad).

There is insurmountable on this forum that women dont like needy guys. to add to that there is a LOT of my personal experience which tells me the same thing. There was also numerous women that tell me the same thing themselves, so...

How on earth am I meant to not sound needy if I need to call 5 time before I get an answer, I have to pay for everything and have organize a date before Wednesday (hence 5 days in advance)? On top of that if a girl ignores me, doesnt talk, doesnt make eye contact and just acts plain uninterested im probably not going to bother and AFC guys will probably not have enough confidence to do anything.

I think (and this is personal opinion only) that all these rules is make more guys attracted to you (especially AFCs who tend to pick only one girl to be obsessed by) but work quite opposite if you want to actally be mutually attracted to each other.

Why do most women spend all their time telling us that they want a nice, sincere guy that calls all the time, that pays for everything, and that is pretty much a doormat when in actual fact they want to opposite? I think "the game" is good in that it actually appeals to those kinds of guys but turns them into what women are attracted by. Hence a guy who in genuinely nice will grow a spine and get confidence (which is what women actually want) but wont be a jerk to her after they have had sex and is likely to start a nice LTR where both sexes are equal.

Just read this post. Good stuff Roz!

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No they don't. They're about as repressively anti-Feminist as I can imagine. Reads like the playbook of a serious gold digger, who will repress her persona, desires, and identity in order to win a "good" man. A real Feminist will say you will jolly well respect my armpit hair and treat me as your intellectual equal!

Then you're an idiot, because when she gets hit by a car and is in critical condition in the hospital, you're not going to have any authority over what the doctors do with her. Why do you think gay people want to be married? It's a legal arrangement. It has consequences for how the government and society have to treat you as a couple.

Like I said gold digger playbook.
No, I haven't. What planet is this book from? I think it's the planet of the Stepford Wives. In another thread I've commented on the music that gets stuck in our heads as we try to game. The John Lennon music is getting stronger and stronger. Makes me wanna join a march, this stuff is so shitty. I never really thought about what Feminism was fighting against until now, how their struggle might be relevant to my own struggle. Thank God I don't think women are generally as full of shit as all of this. When are we going to sum up that this book is 1/3 insight, 2/3 gratuitous pandering to a needy demographic so that the author and publisher can turn a buck? "Free your mind, and your ass will follow."

Word.

To the member that said a "7-10 wouldn't read this book."

Attractive women turn to The Rules, because they're sick of meeting men that want them for casual sex or have no intentions of marrying them after dating for a few years. The Rules promise that you will get married and have an amazing man, and that's what today's woman are having a hard time with.

The Rules sound ridiculous at first, but I did them for fun on a boyfriend. He went crazy about me, and wanted to commit within months. , The relationship didn't work out in the long run, but I also broke the rules as the relationship got more serious.

Overall, The Rules should be taken with a grain of salt and just serve as a general guideline. The few things that I don't like about the book is "You were abused by your boyfriend because you didn't do the rules" or "Most men aren't shy." That's not true. Many men are too scared to make the first move and not much will change an abusive man's nature.