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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:28 am 
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Hey everyone, hope you're all good.

I thought I'd write up my plan for tonight as I'm going to a nightclub in the town near me with some buddies, and would be great if I could have some feedback on my game plan. P.s. I'm going out tonight, so swift replies would be great :D!

First off, I have to say that my friends suck at playing wing man/going anywhere near girls. Instead of trying to be supportive to me aswell, they just take the piss out of me and laugh at me for trying to approach girls, fuck knows why - but for this reason, I will be *basically* sarging alone, although there is one of my friends who would be willing to give it a shot with me.

So to start with, the club's bar is right next to a balcony that overlooks the dancefloor. From what I have previously gathered from visits to this place, a lot of the girls who are own their own hang about on the balconies about the dancefloor, whilst of course there are a lot of girls down on the dancefloor too. Now, here's my plan for girls on the balcony -

1. Use the "did you see the two girls fighting outside??" opener.

2. Issue time constraint - "I can only stay for a minute or so, I have to go find my buddies."

3. Compliment hair/jewelry (without sounding cliche as hell.)

4. *Not sure at this stage - either ask her for her name, or use some mid-game? i.e. The number mystery game where you guess the numbers she's thinking of? As I say, not entirely sure at this stage.*

5. Ask her for a dance, then take it from there.

Now, obviously this won't be EXACTLY how I do it, and I do trust my natural instincts to take over when it needs to, but as I say - any feedback or help on this would be excellent.



So, that's for the girls NOT on the dancefloor - but I literally don't have any idea of what to do with girls who are on the dancefloor? What I'm going to try and do is just look for eye contact though, try and move closer to target, lightly hip/butt bump a couple of times then when we make eye contact again, offer my hand. Is that the right kind of idea?

Also, one question in regards to gaming on the dancefloor - if a girl locks eyes with you a good amount of times, and then moves closer within your area, is that her practically wanting to be danced with by you??

Thanks so much! Anything would be great!


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Good to have a plan time ahead.

If your buddies arent willing to wing-it's all good.

I prefer sarging alone but if you're gonna be out with them,it would've been cool to have them wing.

I would do the balcony approaches too.

It's not really which opener you use in this case.

It comes down to your tonality and overal vibe & energy.

So if you were to use the classic-Mystery's "girls fighting" routine,you have to put the energy,life & sincerity into it.

You cannot deliver such a drama-filled opener with a weak body language.

So,you'll have to become animated in your facial expressions & hand movements.

So your plan is great.

Just remember to focus on tonality & your vibes.

You dont want to approach a dancing girl on the balcony with weak body lang'.

So your state should match hers or be livlier than hers.

Meaning,if the girl's dancing,bobbing her head to the beat,drinking,obviously having fun.

You will have to approach with the same intensity & fun vibe.

If you approach her with a low energy,you will be essentially killing her fun state.

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Hey man, thanks a lot for your tips - very useful!


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Guys typically go out to mainly target vagina but why do you think women go OUT to drink/dance? They don't merely go out to meet guys. . . For them, this is a mini-holiday, a fantasy, a way to do something different than what they do during a work day. So why quiz them, remind them of the time you have, offer the 'office over the water cooler compliments' then go back to more quizzes? . . .
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1. Use the "did you see the two girls fighting outside??" opener.
Since you're creating a script for yourself, I'd consider going the 'exclamation' opener route. Anything that begins with a "Holy shit! . . . Woh! . . . Not bad! . . .etc . . . " - Chicks are a bit squirrely. Snap them into attention first and things will flow . . ."That's the funkiest funky chicken I've ever seen. . ." "So you're a tap dancer. I have an eye for these things . . . " "Your hand gestures. . . Jujitsu?" - Then you just pile it on and they'll almost ALWAYS reciprocate.

By the way, even if there really was a fight "out there", who gets excited about this stuff? That's right, a bunch of 12 year olds at the school cafeteria.
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2. Issue time constraint - "I can only stay for a minute or so, I have to go find my buddies."
Not necessary.
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3. Compliment hair/jewelry (without sounding cliche as hell.)
Not so quick. As you gain rapport through all the nonsensical crazy chat, she will bring things back to Earth: "You here with your friends? . . .What do you do? . . . Where are you from? . . . " - The idea is in her head is, "OK, this guy is cool and he's fun and I like him. But is he also a normal, good guy?" - You offer her a short, upfront answer then ask her the same question. This is where you plant the 'compliment'. Hey, that's really cool . . . or wow, that's hot! The guys must really be into you . . ."
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4. *Not sure at this stage - either ask her for her name, or use some mid-game? i.e. The number mystery game where you guess the numbers she's thinking of? As I say, not entirely sure at this stage.*
Too many to list here. but yup, if you haven't yet, just go, "Oh, I'm _____ nice to meet you."
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5. Ask her for a dance, then take it from there.
Typically, you'd grab your hand and go, "This is a great song." - She starts dancing with you there and you go, "Let's hit the dance floor."

Avoid the quiz show host game.


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Glad I can help.

But did you know that prior(about energy levels & state)?

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Wow Kasabi,you won post of the month(lol)!

Anyway I love the advise you're giving here.

Essentially snapping women out of their otherwise boring states.

Opener,"Holy shit"!

That would work.

Once again,intensity is key.

I know we've had major disagreements on my past post about drinks,but I give you props for the nice advise here.

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Kasabi is really good with his advise here. I suggest you better keep an eye out to his "plan" instead of yours. You are actually using a lot of canned materials and thus depicting you aren't comfortable with your own stuff. You need to watch out with that because a girl will pick it up.

Canned materials are good stuf, but if you don't believe in yourself, you won't get the same message across as the original thinker of it.

Think about it & good luck!

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@LyricalDream-We're eluding to the same thing here:

Body language & tonlity.

If one comes off as disingenuous,the PU attempt will be ruined.

With your own material,there should be no congruencey & tonality issuses.

But since Trequartista needs a quick-fix advise(he's clubbing tonight),he has to go with canned routines.

So try to work on conveying genuity when delivering your stuff.

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Thanks for the great feedback guys.

Judging from your posts then, I should try to be a little more natural in approaching the girls? And as k-loc said, make sure the body language and tonality is up beat and confident.


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You definitely get it.

I dont know what level of game you're SPAM if you're a newbie,stick to canned materials like Mystery's-"girls fighting outside".

As you advance,you'd be able to come up with your own routines.

But key is energy for tonight.

Whatver you do,please dont bring down the energy levels of any sets or girl.

You want to have the same energy & vibe as hers or a tad bit higher.

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If you're approaching a seated set and the girl has a chilled tone.

You dont want to come in as though you're high on coke;this would weird them out

But if the girls pertty chatty & animated,you can come in set a though you're high on coke(high energied).

Go get em tonight!!

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You definitely get it.

I dont know what level of game you're SPAM if you're a newbie,stick to canned materials like Mystery's-"girls fighting outside".

As you advance,you'd be able to come up with your own routines.

But key is energy for tonight.

Whatver you do,please dont bring down the energy levels of any sets or girl.

You want to have the same energy & vibe as hers or a tad bit higher.

Clarification:

If you're approaching a seated set and the girl has a chilled tone.

You dont want to come in as though you're high on coke;this would weird them out

But if the girls pertty chatty & animated,you can come in set a though you're high on coke(high energied).

Go get em tonight!!

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You definitely get it.

I dont know what level of game you're SPAM if you're a newbie,stick to canned materials like Mystery's-"girls fighting outside".

As you advance,you'd be able to come up with your own routines.

But key is energy for tonight.

Whatver you do,please dont bring down the energy levels of any sets or girl.

You want to have the same energy & vibe as hers or a tad bit higher.

Clarification:

If you're approaching a seated set and the girl has a chilled tone.

You dont want to come in as though you're high on coke;this would weird them out

But if the girls pertty chatty & animated,you can come in set a though you're high on coke(high energied).

Go get em tonight!!
Thanks so much bro :) Will let you all know how I did with a field report!


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K-loc, always a cool cat here , man....you help out the newbies and take the time...pat to you!

Everyone has their different styles, so Kas might work, depending on who you are...doesn't work for everyone....My friend Noel, big black guy, doesn't go in with tons of energy and he shouldn't...he already has that mystique about him that would be ruined by bouncing around like Roger Rabbit(lol-exaggeration, I know)

I would only add, after tonight, find some new friends....it's one thing to not want to game, another for trying to make you feel dumb about it...whether you know it or not, THAT right there, meaning your friends, affects your game, in my opinion.

Good providence!

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@Cap' Morgan-Thanks for the props bro';I love giving advise & taking even more.

Lol,solid point you just made about your friend Noel(the big-blacc guy).

He doesnt have to raise his energy levels since his presence(stature)speaks for itself(imposing).

If he were to come in with high energy,he would scare the shit out the girls(lol).

Good suggetion also on the wingmen thing.

Once again,thanks for the props;appreciate it.

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K-loc...WORD...

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