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| Skawt27 | PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:03 am | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Enthusiast |  | Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:19 am Posts: 56 Location: Michigan | | Ok, theres a HB 7.5 at my church that I'm interested in. Her friend (HB 7) seems to have become interested in me. The Target doesn't really know that I'm interested yet. The HB 7 (obstacle) asked me to sit in between her and the target during one of our church meetings. I declined because I didn't want her to become too attracted.
I've been in a similar situation in my AFC days where 2 dorm room-mates liked me, but I found out later the one I was more interested in didn't want to follow through with me because her room-mate said she liked me first. So I ended up hooking up with her room-mate (obstacle) instead.
The question I have is this:
Should I be worried that since they're best friends and the Obstacle is interested, is it possible that the Target will not want to become involved because her best friend told her she liked me and doesn't want to hurt her friends feelings?
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| Rye Lee | PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:27 pm | |
| Offline | | Moderator Emeritus |  | Joined: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:17 pm Posts: 4508 Website: http://www.facebook/urbanundergroundculture.com Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada | | You have to get the obstacle into the LJBF zone. That way she won't be attracted to you anymore. You just need to make it obvious that she's your buddy (without actually saying so, because that will make it incredibly difficult to get with the target). It is still possible to get with the target, but it does make it harder and the longer her feelings grow the harder it will be, especially if her friend finds out, which she might have already. So you need to work on building attraction harder with the target, then enough comfort that you can isolate and let her know that its her you want and not her friend, because you guys are just "good friends". Make sure to use that line and it will save you. _________________ "The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch
~ Rye
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| Skawt27 | PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:31 pm | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Enthusiast |  | Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:19 am Posts: 56 Location: Michigan | | So if it doesn't work out with the target, I probably shouldn't try to get with the obstacle?
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| Ka | PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:48 am | |
| Offline | | PUA Forum Leader |  | Joined: Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:40 am Posts: 991 AOL: ctbinccp Location: philly | | If the target is less intrested in you then the obsticcle/others in the set, maybe you paid too much or too little attention to the target...
In other words lets say you have been paying more attention to the obsticle (i think your supposed to start with this?), while displaying DHV and showing alpha male characteristics.
maybe she is not intrested because: she formed a hardened preconceived notion of you prior? maybe you tried a neg and it came accross as an insult?
I'd say if you have started gaming them as a set and your target has not shown any intrest but your obsticle is, somehow your intrest and your actions are goin to seperate directions.
If i were in your situation i would probably go for the obsticle as they are close in the number you rated, and they are obviously both to your sexual preference (ie women). What effect will it have on your chances with the original target depend....
Most likely she will be in LJBF zone while your gameing her friend, the ex-obsticle. Dependant on how far you get with the ex-obsticle word of mouth may play in your favor, and after you and ex-obsticle are done the old target may become more intrested in you.
Well thats about all i got hope it helps, im new to the game and it might all be garbage, but i tried.
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| Rye Lee | PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:50 am | |
| Offline | | Moderator Emeritus |  | Joined: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:17 pm Posts: 4508 Website: http://www.facebook/urbanundergroundculture.com Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada | | If you are interested in the obstacle, then go for her now that you've attracted her. You probably payed too much attention to the target and that is why the obstacle is attracted, or the obstacle likes guys that pay a lot of attention to her and you weren't just being friendly, you were using attractive things on her, so remember it for next time.
You pretty much have to pick one or the other in this situation. If they are both attracted to you, then there are ways to have them both (being honest come into play here), but if you need to attract the target and ditch the obstacle, then ditch her and don't go back later. _________________ "The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch
~ Rye
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| Skawt27 | PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:12 am | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Enthusiast |  | Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:19 am Posts: 56 Location: Michigan | | The thing is I haven't really shown a lot of interest in the target. I've only negged her so far. She has given me a good amount of IOI's, but so far I've laid back and have probably been playing it too cool. If she gives me an IOI next time I'm with them, would it be wrong to give her a backhanded compliment to at least let her know I'm interested or should I initiate some kino first?
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| Ka | PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:43 pm | |
| Offline | | PUA Forum Leader |  | Joined: Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:40 am Posts: 991 AOL: ctbinccp Location: philly | | In my opinion, negs should be used in such a way as to disarm someones ego...but it should be balanced with backhanded compliments, "rewards", kino and such to make them feel good about themselves.
In other words they should leave you at the end of a set feeling like "WoW, that guy is cool. He makes me feel good." They should never walk away thinking either extreme "that guys a jerk he just puts people down" or "WoW, that was easy, now i got him eating out of my hands."
Next time try to push/pull (cat string theory) more agresively. Not the tone of each thing you say, but go back and forth more quickly. Neg, then right away kino. DHV story or interactive DHV, then neg her on a wrong answer or make up a nickname that is humorous in response to her reactions.
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