I know people say it does but has anyone had success with it? When I say success, I'm talking about it leading somewhere. I'm sure the initial interaction would go well and she would be nice about receiving a compliment. But does it translate into day 2's and relationships? It just seems like a giant DLV to walk up and say "Excuse me. I just saw you and thought you were beautiful........."

Dont focus so much on value. That's by far the BIGGEST flaw on this forum, people WAY overplay the whole "value" thing. Of course you dont want women to think you lay around with your mom on the weekends and watch chick flicks and cry together, but at the beginning, it really doesn't matter as much as you think.

By being direct, you set yourself apart from 90+% of the male population, and show you have an abnormal amount of self-confidence. It's really just important how you go about it. When I first started being direct towards women, I just came off creepy as fuck. As I worked on it, I got better and the conversations had gotten longer and more enjoyable. You can DEFINITELY get results doing this. This is how men attracted women long before this community ever started. Why wouldn't it work now?

I had a few day 2-3's and had a couple lays, which is perfect for me. Seriously, how long do you need them anyway? In short, yes it does work. You gotta have balls of big steel though. It's tougher than it looks to be direct and be SMOOTH about it, takes work.

Does direct day game really work?

Much more than you expect it to.

I wondered that too at first. It's so simple, yet it works so well because other guys don't have the balls to do it.

I'm going to assume that your working on daygame? I feel that it's most effective on daygame because girls wont expect it versus girls expecting to be called beautiful during night game.

It works if you can do it right and transition from it as well. If you open directly, and then you don't know what to say, it may not be too effective.

Also, you might want to grab her interest before going direct. A lot of women aren't really listening well to guys who randomly walk up to them. Ask her if she knows this area pretty well. Wait for a response THEN say something like she's the most beautiful girl you've seen in the area all day. The first sentence to get her thinking about what you said because she'll be listening to the reason why you asked her if she knew the area well. Get it?

Bottom line, direct works if you know what to do/say next.

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Totally agree with this part.

Disagree with saying something like asking about the area beforehand though.

Basic approach is

[Pre-frame] + [Set the scene] + [Compliment] + [Introduction]

e.g.

[Hi! I know this is a bit random, but] + + [I think you're absolutely stunning so] + [I just had to come over and say hi! I'm ____ ]

Why it works:

A guy on the street coming up to a girl will often look like he's trying to get something out of her, e.g. he's a salesman selling something, a charity worker, someone handing out flyers, etc. Her natural reaction will be to avoid him, or if she does stop assume that anything he says is just him trying to get her to buy something. The pre-frame and set the scene parts show that he's acknowledging what he's doing is random, but that he literally just saw her and that's why he's come over, i.e. he's NOT a salesman.

*For NLPers, the preframe and set the scene before the compliment is a bit of pacing and leading, which builds trust. She is thinking it's a bit random, and then she was just walking past, so then she's more likely to accept the compliment and buy into the frame than if he just said "Hi! You're beautiful!" which would seem much more disingenuous.

The more heartfelt, genuine and specific the compliment is, the better. If you go with just "cute," then it's a good idea to back that up with something a bit more specific if you can, otherwise the opener might feel scripted. I really like black girls, so I'll often back it up with something about how they've done their hair which makes them look sexy, because black girls spend HOURS on their hair and many really really care a lot about how it looks. But if a girl has a great sense of fashion, or a fantastically sexy walk, TELL her. Things that she's put effort in to look good (rather than just generally being hot) are better because people like to be valued for things they actually work at and care about, rather than things they were just born with and have no control over.

Then, you work on transitioning into a normal conversation. Basically the same as transitioning in any cold approach (i.e. moving from your opener to a normal conversation). There are plenty of posts and info about that elsewhere.

As for RESULTS (your actual question): I went from doing indirect nightgame and getting a certain amount of results, to doing direct daygame and getting TEN TIMES those results. I usually have about 2-4 dates per WEEK with different girls, that I set up from doing approaches on Saturday and Sunday during the day, and during lunchbreaks and other random times during the week.

What direct changes is your entire mentality. Before, I was going up to girls in clubs and thinking "right, I have to say this thing and that thing to get her to like me, and then I have to say this thing and that thing to get her interested and that thing to get her attracted, etc." If I was ever blown out, it was MY fault for being shitty at game and I had to go back and figure out more routines and work on X Y Z.

NOW, I just go out and tell a girl I think she's fucking hot. If she stays and talks to me, it means she's interested. Then I just talk about shit and see if there's a connection, if we share some interests, if she gets my style of humour. If not, I've wasted 5 minutes of my time. If she is, we talk, have fun, set up a day 2, and exchange numbers. It's all so much EASIER! No bitch shields, shit tests, AMOGs, cockblocks, ANYTHING. Just you, a hot girl, and a 5-10 minute interaction she'll LOVE and REMEMBER you for

TRY IT!

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Day game - proves to be more valueable than nightgame. This is because you don't have all those guy stepping up to her all the time. Therefore her "defensive mechanism" isn't in place. This can make your approach a lot easier and it's a lot more fun to talk on a regular place aswell. You need to keep in mind that day gaming isn't really made to go directly to the bedroom either - therefore girls will be a lot more at ease aswell.

Direct game - in contraversy to many beliefs. It does actually work. Be sure to be direct in a polight manner tho. Not everybody accepts the roughy edge of it. And when trying it - read up on BG's response. He's got it right to the point.

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Daygame is what I am focusing on. It sounds more manageable than night game as at least you can see and hearyourself talk and likewise your target and of course, I agree with the comments about having the balls to just do it!

I agree with this part. If she feels like it's just a random compliment, it will be harder to establish anything.

A tip I would give to guys who can't figure out why a girl is attractive is to pick up a magazine (Cosmo, Fashion Magazine etc..) and flip through it. All the pictures you see a good looking girl you have to say 1-2 things why she is good looking. That will help veer away from the "You look cute" or " I think you're hot" blend comments.

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Woah there, yeah I see where your going but let's never rule out AMOG's, and Cockblocks. You never know if they have a BF just coming out of the restroom!

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