You seem to be attacking the person instead of the argument.

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*This tactic is used by 3ed graders, people with under-developed brains, and 14 year olds on 4chan.

Can you spot any re-curring theme amongst the groups who use this line of reasoning?

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Now see, we can both be immature retards, now that it has failed, whats next?

Quite simply Fin, we are just going to have to agree to disagree. We both have different opinions on the matter and it seems we both have success with each of our own opinions. To each his own.

So now instead of us both degrading ourselves with an argument thats going nowhere, lets take the high road and agree there are more than one way to skin a cat.

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KER- CLUNK

Did you hear that? It's you, entering warped mindless phase 2. Here's a brief over-view of the model.

Phase 0.5- This is an optional one sometimes you pull it sometimes you don't. Warped Mindless, proofs himself by making references to PUGs, critisising some and praising others to allude to the idea that he is well connected behind the scenes of the PU world. (Can't take credit for this observation, it was actually someone else who pointed out this to me, of course I'm sure you'll find the idea of you being discussed more flattering than worrying.)

Phase 1.0 - Spill rhetoric using whatever trendy buzz-words, phrases and romanticised theorums that currently appealling to those looking for a saviour model.

Phase 2.0 - Uh oh! What's this? Dissention amongst the ranks of our readers? Has someone come to burst our bubble? Time to break out the passive aggressive analysis of the other persons post and pretend like they are the only hostile ones in the thread.
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Regardless, have you come up with an answer to "This is too extreme a solution" yet?

Ye'know, Sometimes it feels like handing a PUA an idea is like handing toddler a nail gun, he could use it to build something beautiful, but more likely he'll just shoot himself in the phase.

I have a 7 year old nephew you remind me of. Instead of taking the high road and agreeing that we both have different opinions on the matter, you chose to sink back into a little kid mindset. Your ego is bigger than your post count. Perhaps when you get out of this school yard mentality we can have a serious discussion.

Until then, im done with this thread, as neither of has have any more value to add to it.

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Everything in green: You really think you're on the high road by posting to tell me how silly I am, and try and imply I'm a KJ, before swanning off proclaiming yourself as more mature?
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Everything in Indigo: "agreeing that we have different opinions", How in the world would that add value?

If you're after value here, wouldn't it be far more productive of us to thrash this out and get some form of conclusion or further insight?

"Adding value" to a discussion is more than wagging your tail and bobbing your head to whatever the first guy said. This is a lesson alot of people here have forgotten.

Now do you want to continue with this charade* or actually answer the point?

"This is too far a step towards extremity, there are better solutions to this problem than interpretting everything bar extreme hostility as resistance."


*Let's face it, were you leaving this debate becuase you were high in principle, you wouldn't have announced it like you did. You wanted people to see your "nobility" so that you could avoid an argument and still come out looking good.

I agree with the OP and WarpedMindless.

1. Both don't always have negative reactions. Handing over cash that you don't want to hand over out of fear is a lot different to fucking a guy because you're horny and he was persistant even though you kept resisting him. I do agree that you should be calibrated and learn to tell the difference between resistance and genuine disinterest, but most guys can do that anyway.

2. Yes, they can tell you that they're going to the bathroom, easily done while she's with friends because she'll take the with her.

3. I've had plenty of girls tell me they're not that kind of girl (to sleep with a guy outside of a commited relationship), only later on (maybe a few days/weeks) to come around to mine and fuck, knowing full well that I have no intention of getting serious with them. Again you need calibration for this.

Fin, I don't think you understand the idea of it properly. I get what you're saying, you can't just keep ploughing forever and try to force a girl to have sex with you, but persistance is good as long as you're calibrated and can tell the difference between resistance and rejection.

I understand it perfectly, I used this strategy for about 3 months straight and got some pretty cool results from it. BUT! Check the word I've bolded.

Calibration, as far as I'm aware, is more subtle than "She smacked me in the face, that's a bad sign", you should be able to read these signs and adjust.

If you get a bad vibe, then think about what you need to do.

This may be, leaving for now, to come back later or just a quick change of topic.

Plowing gets you through when you know a person will change their mind if you keep going, there is such as thing as digging your own grave.

Resistance should be seen as a minor-rejection, your job is to figure out what she rejected and to remove that element.

Making all resistence irrelevent isn't calibration.