Hey all,

The name is kakashi316. The funny part is that Ive never heard of the term average frustrated chump until recently. But I like it better than nice guy,makes me sound like less of a schmuck.

To be direct,Ive only been on a certain amount of first dates and thats only because of me joining a dating site. Ive also never had a girlfriend.Im sick of being a afc and being a nice guy if that actually helps, I want to be a MPUA.

Your first step is to take smaller steps. Try getting a girlfriend, ease your AA or achieve something you haven't before you expect to be a PUA. Don't look at the end result... Focus on the process.

First lesson complete.

- Print

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For all you play it safers:
"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new."

- Albert Einstein quotes.

If the biggest nerd of the 19th century can do it, so can you.

fair,getting a girlfriend is my overall goal.figured being a pua or something close would help my chances.

Material, Material , Material....

Every wanna be mPUA shoudl start by learning the game from the very beginning...start with The Game by Neil Strauss, the Mystery Method, Adam Lyons, Gambler and other PUA's.

That will basically fill in the gaps and allow you to put your own spin on it and allow you to search out the material that suits you.!!

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"I guess a little small talks in order here now."

"Do I look like a gentleman to you in this shirt and these pants?"

"I know you from some place."

I think you should stop watching Naruto before trying to become a PUA.

I literally had to google what the fuck Naruto was and I still don't get the joke...obviously you do as you have been watching it....

Surely jokes like these only work on people who watch it/know what it is about

ALSO if your going to comment on a topic...at least answer the question or give him sol help and advice.

PS please can you explain the joke or anyone reading it that knows wtf he meant Thanks

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"I guess a little small talks in order here now."

"Do I look like a gentleman to you in this shirt and these pants?"

"I know you from some place."

Kakashi-

I'm not sure if this is a sticking point for you but most new guys (AFCs) have approach anxiety and come off as awkward when talking to girls. I would suggest (from Mystery I think, not sure exactly) for the next couple of weeks start conversations with everyone you see. Cashiers, clerks, people on busses, sidewalks, whatever. You're not trying to pick them up rather feel comfortable in your skin talking to random people. Hell, I even practice talking to guys because if there's a mixed set I usually use the guy to break in.

From now on I'll make it a point to remember where I pick up my info.

-Engineer

it is total approach anxiety and it is something i really want to fix.

kakashi is a character from naruto. its just so i would have userid

First of all, JimmyDoyle, no offense, but judging from your responses you are one of those guys who sit at home studying theory and mental masturbation. Respect for material here, respect for you sir, but I believe that PUA isn't all about material.

Naruto... Thats for 12 year old asian girls who are hardcore wannabe. Even as a user id, I would completely drop that shit. Its embarrasing to associate with, and not helping you get closer to a gf at all.

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For all you play it safers:
"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new."

- Albert Einstein quotes.

If the biggest nerd of the 19th century can do it, so can you.

LOL! I don't know what Naruto is either but maybe Imprint has a point.

Jimmy, I would say you're half right. It sounds to me Kakashi hasn't quite developed his true personality yet. Kakashi, visit the "newbie's start here" section of the forum and put up a bio of yourself. We can't really help if we don't know how you think or what you're doing around women.

You mention you have approach anxiety and shooting the shit with random people will help your body language, tonality, etc. Approach anxiety happens to EVERYONE! Maybe the approach is where you need to start but I'm guessing you should probably start at inner game.

For example, I picked up "The Game" back in November. The part that fascinated me was how Neil made a conscious decision to change who he was. He envisioned the type of guy he wanted to be then came up with a logical road map to make that happen.

My "old" personality when I was in a bar or club was to be the "hard" guy. For some reason (given my physical appearance) I thought this fit my persona. I wouldn't hardly talk to anyone but my friends and I would blow girls off because I was too cool. I WASN'T TOO COOL!!! I was scarred shitless of them. I would get some girls that way but mainly they were all psychotic. I got psychos because I was projecting a personality type that could only attract psychos! If you dress like a hippie then you'll only get hippie chicks! Get my point?

I've got a crazy, spontaneous , funny personality. That's who I am! I want to be the guy that gets invited to all the parties. The guy that can work a room, make people laugh and become friends. I wan't people saying "call engineer, find out what he's doing tonight," or "we've got to invite engineer." I'm not hard, I'm a really nice caring person! I like to do shit for people, help them out. I had to figure out how to project this personality into my game, hell, into my life! I was never happy pretending to be a "bad ass."

I've found out a lot of shit about myself these past few months. I LOVE peacocking! I've been looking up GQ style tips on youtube and rocking some really fucking cool outfits that are very stylish. The kind of shit that make girls say, "that guy knows what's up!"

Basically, that's the long way for me to say get to know yourself first. Decide what kind of girls you're into or what goals you're trying to accomplish. Then, figure out what changes need to be made in your life/personality to help you reach your goal.

One more thought, be specific in your goals and be honest with yourself. I believe nothing is out of reach but "being able to bang any girl I meet" is not a goal, that's a desire. "Falling in love with my dream girl," that's also a bad one. You can post that as your goal but if someone calls you out on what your ideal girl should be, then you better be able to back that up with specific details.

Sorry, I get on rants and end up typing damn novels!

-Engineer

No offense taken, and no offense to you but here is what he said in the original post:
So do you still think starting with material and learning what the game is about is not needed? For someone who wants to be an MPUA I think that understanding how the game started and all the technical terms are going to be an important factor. No?

My response was for him and not me, the fact that me and you are responding and viewing this topic, says that we spend more time on the forum looking at people introducing themselves than out in field

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"I guess a little small talks in order here now."

"Do I look like a gentleman to you in this shirt and these pants?"

"I know you from some place."

read all the material that is on this forum, read all the books. practice all your material out on the field. and stop watching anime

Yeah, that was my point as well

Now I have found out what Naruto actually is, yes I would recommend dropping that, or at least keep it a secret until you are a MPUA

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"I guess a little small talks in order here now."

"Do I look like a gentleman to you in this shirt and these pants?"

"I know you from some place."

Why does he have to stop watching anime if he likes it? Do not change what you do not want to! Sure if you stay at home and just watch anime and read books it won't help... But if you go out on the field much to practise what you have read here or in some pickup related books and when you don't feel like you'd like to read material as it was already enough of mental masturbation and the weather is rainy or you're in a really bad mood it is totally okay to watch an anime. It won't hold you back to the slightest if you also take the time and effort to improve. Also, I can't count how many HBs I know who love animes. That's one nice convo topic if you get into one...

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