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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:52 am 
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So I have made a conscious decision to get this part of my life handled and i realize that the only way i am going to get this handled is if i get out there and do something about it

Yesterday
So before i left my house i went over my personal goals for the day. I bought and read revelation and went over the waypoints.
Waypoint 1-Get out of the House
Waypoint 2-open the set
Now heres the problem. I have major AA and i know this. I knew that it would be very hard for to just go out and start opening sets. So i added my Waypoint 1.5
Waypoint 1.5- Warm up

now before i left my house i set a goal for myself and as long as i accomplished that goal, i would know that i am on the path to living the lifestyle i want. i also had a gameplan to accomplish that goal and that gameplan was the newbie mission. The goal of today was to warm up and get into a talkative state and once i had warmed up to test the openers that i wanted to use

Now i didnt want to go sarging with the all intent purpose of going out there to pick up. I went out there with this mentality that i was going to go about my day normally but almost everytime i go about my life, i always at least see a couple attractive girls. So if i saw a attractive girl i was going to open her

My day started with me needing to go to the gas station. When i was at the gas station it was dead. No targets, but that didnt stop me from at the very least saying hi to everyone who was there ( only 4 others or so) I could feel my AA lessen as i did more approaches

After i got gas i needed to stopped at Target to just grab a few cosmetic supplies. even though i had warmed up a little by saying hi to people at the gas station, when i arrived to the store, i was feeling like my AA was rising again. I knew that meant that i needed to warm up again. So as soon as i got into the store i did the newbie mission again. after warming up i felt pretty confident about opening

So for my first approach i used a situational opener. I was looking at shampoos and i already know which one that i use but there was this HB8 next to me and i thought i dont care open her. So i opener with could i get your opinion on the smell of the shampoo. She smelled it then said that it smelled like another one of the shelf. I picked up the other one and smelled it and joked around a bit with this must be the one that you use. she laughed. we had some more talked but then she ended up doing a roll off. She walked away to the next aisle and i stayed in the same aisle. She ended up circling around a minute or later and i tried to reopen but the convo never reopened again

I continued though. The next opener i used was pre-canned material. yeah i know what they say bout using pre-canned stuff but i found that my problem was when i saw that HB i would always say to myself "whats my opener?". this way i already knew what i was going to say and i could focus more on body language. Heres the default opener i was testing:

is it cheating if a girl kisses another guy has a BF?
What if a girl kisses another girl is it still cheating?

it may be overused or whatever but the purpose is just to get into the conversation

The next set i ended up approaching was 3 set mixed. 2 girls and 1 guy. The set was walking opposite directions of me and i soon as i saw the set i opened. As i was walking by i turned over the shoulder and said hey guys! but the set didnt hear me. because they didnt hear me the set ended up taking a extra step away, but that didnt stop me i just said hey guys again and the second time they heard me and at this point the set had to turn around to engage me which they did. I opened with hey guys i need to go meet a friend soon but let get your opinion on this. used the opener. and ejected with ok guys thanks for the opinion. I noticed everytime that i ran the opener, after it was done i would always take a step back and turn my body more away. I consciously take that step back and away because of the rule "Dont lean in". Not sure how well it works

after the first time using the opener i felt more confident in it and used it to approach a couple more sets( i know i could have done more though). i made more small talk with the cashiers and other people in the front and left the store feeling like i was the most popular guy in the store. I was saying hi to everyone and engaging them in conversation. As i was walking out i noticed more sets walking into the store and thought to myself the game isnt over. i did the newbie drill to 3 more sets walking out of the store but all 3 of them didnt even respond to it. they had this look like "is that guy talking to me?"

When i got back to my car i put my bags in the back seat of my car and i noticed this HB9 in the car across from mine and one over to the left. i looked into her car and waited for her to make eye contact with me and when she did i smiled and waved to her. and to my surprise she waved back. when she waved back i walked over to her driver side window and motioned for her to put her window down. she lowered her window and i wanted to try direct game. I have never tried direct game before and wanted to see if it worked. I opened with " Hi, i have to go meet a friend soon and i dont want to be wierd but i just noticed you from over there and i had to come over here and say that you are the prettiest girl i have seen today" and her initial response to that comment was a positive one. if i could describe it. it was as if her eyes lite up and i made her day. after that i went for the introduction got her name but i was so shocked that direct game had worked i ejected soon after that with i have to go meet my friend

recap
1. its a good thing that i warmed up because i know if i didnt theres no way i would be willing to go ahead a try direct game
2. I still need to work on opening. although i was able to approach, i was nervous as hell doing it. I am going to have to keep doing it until its congruent with me
3. once i am comfortable opening sets the next step i want to add to my game is the roll offs and reengage the group with a FTC and continue (best friends routine). after i work on my roll offs i plan on working on my cold reading/kino game to develop into my own style

today i tried the different openers (sit, opin, direct) and i know i dont have much exp with them but I think direct had the best results today on another day who knows.

the real reason i want to get my AA handled is that UNI starts this week and i want to start getting it handled before it starts. Any tips or guidance would help greatly


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:26 am 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:15 am 
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I admire your balls, sir. Unfortunately I'm not that experienced, my practice has been limited to bars and nightclubs. The fact that you started out with day game (harder in my opinion) and opened sets in Target is something to be proud of. Keep it up man.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:09 am 
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have you seen the uni thread?
about approaching people at uni, what to do to form a social group etc?

anyways, on topic, you got more balls then me mate, I havent tried day game yet, but it does look like from what Ive seen that direct IS the best way to go cause its the most natural?

keep going man and report back


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:18 am 
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Good job - you made a conscious decision to handle this part of your life, set some goals, went out and actually did some approaches!

What you may have noticed is

(i) Getting a stranger to stop and listen to you can be tricky
(ii) Opinion openers out of context come across as strange (why is this guy stopping me during the day to ask about who lies more?)
(iii) Situational openers start a little conversation, but you have to do SOMETHING pretty quick to transition to a normal conversation, otherwise you lose the set

For these reasons, when I do daygame (which I think is actually EASIER than nightgame once you push yourself through the initial AA) I almost always go DIRECT.

The important factors about my approach

I like to get in FRONT of the girl so she STOPS in her tracks. The key is to be SMILING, to not get too close, and to get completely in front of her so she can't just walk around you. Your frame has to be strong and confident that she will stop, otherwise you look like a charity worker or someone asking for money (hopefully you dress a bit better though!)

I PREFRAME my opener my describing what's happening. For NLPers out there, it's kinda like "pacing and leading," but it also diffuses some of the tension associated with a random guy coming up to her in the street. For example "Hi, I know this is a bit random, but I just saw you walking past, and"

I COMPLIMENT her, maybe about her general physical appearance, or if I notice something particularly striking (her hair, clothes, etc.) then about that. My standard one is just "I think you're really cute" but you can go for "absolutely stunning" or "gorgeous" or whatever you want. "FUCKING HOT" may be a little too much ;-)

I then explain WHY I'm talking to her. "So I just had to come over and find out more about you. I'm ____" and then I get her name.

From there, it's all about working on transitioning into a normal conversation. You will get a lot of "thank you"s, as long as you don't frighten her with your approach, open confidently with a smile, and deliver your opener slowly and clearly whilst holding good eye contact. If you can't think of anything, just ask her what she's up to today, maybe tell a little story about something random that happened to you, and then try and find out info about her in a somewhat interesting way.

My favourite transition tool is the cold-read. However, I don't just do a standard cold read "you strike me as the kind of person who can be shy and reserved, but around the right people is really outgoing" which is kind of gay and doesn't actually tell me anything about her. I like to go for the intentionally retarded cold-read (i.e. VERY specific and VERY wrong), which is funny and gets her laughing, but still gets her to give me the information as she will probably end up correcting me.

Keep going with the daygame, and update us about your approaches and how they're progressing. The key is to be HAVING FUN and BEING SOCIAL. You're absolutely right about warming up first, it really helps. On my course, I actually do some really innovative stuff that totally gets rid of guys AA by warming up in the right way ;-)

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:50 am 
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Alright today was one of my first day at uni classes. So today was a bit different than my preferred method of pua but i learned alot today

So today started out with me walking to class for which at the time already late for but i was i bit hungry so i decided to stop at one of my fav pizza trucks. When i turned the corner there was right in front of me thiis girl that was in my social circle at school that i had been crushing on for a bit. I know she likes me cause when i first met her she was taken at the time but she is single now but when she was taken i was able to flirt with her pretty easily and not care. anyways there she is in front of me and i opened with something along the line of i havent seen you in awhile and got into a easy conversation since i felt no pressure since i already knew her. but then i tried something that i never tried before and that was to initiate kino. in the middle of the convo i held up my hand and said of thats interesting hold up youur hand. and then i demonstrated how i wanted her hands to be positioned like a handshake kinda. then i said go like this and led into the steps of thumb wrestling and then did the preliminary chant and it was on like donkey kong lol although i let her win it still accomplished my goal of kino and afterwards she responded with massive IOI's( hair/face touching, asking me questions, interested in what i was doing later and where i was going). During the interaction i also had another guy make a comment about the convo i was having with her. I guess i was creating massive social value because i was doing this in front of people. I got this because i was able to lock in and lean back against the truck and have it look like she was gaming me. it ended when i had to say i have to go to class and she was interested when i left her

onto the next scenario
I was in class when i was thinking of turning around and opening this set. the professor came in so i didnt open yet. at the end of the class i was prepared to open the 2 set but got intimidated when it became a 3 set of girls. i didnt open omg i wished i did but theres next week. so that leads me to walking out the classroom and everyone has to wait at the elevator to leave. when i girl from class actually opened me. she said something along the lines wow there are alot of people in this class and she was literally standing right next to me so it was easy to talk for me. I took that comment and had a good flowing conversation with her and heres the thing i coincidentally controlled a 10+ set today. When we got into the elevator no one else knew each other and because of this no one else was talking. During a 8 floor trip down the crammed elevator i was the only one talking and it was good cause it was to a HB9 imo. Is this good social value guys cause i dont even know if people notice as much but i quickly got into talking about how psychology fascinates me and i heard of this experiment where people would stand in the opposite direction of the doorway to the elevator and when a new person got into the elevator what did they do? and when i would say opposite i turned my body language and could tell everyone in the elevator was staring at me :O but i continued talking to the girl but even tho i was talking to her everyone in the elevator could hear what i was saying. LMK your opinions on this. anyway we get out of the elevator and walk out of class and this is where i take the opportunity to introduce myself and run some cold reads on this girl. i was only able to get thru half of the cold before she decided to take the convo in a different direction and i went along with it naturally. I think i paused too long in between my cold read. but we keep walking and we walk past my destination but i keep walking with her cause i feel compelled to. retrospectively i think i should have stopped at my destination and if she kept walking to talk louder to get her to come back. What do you think bout that? we continue walking and i start asking questions like how old are your blah blah Afc stuff and i look back and think i should have practiced the questions into statements drill. we get to her destination and i said hey you seem like a interesting person can i get your number and guess what...........she rejects me by saying i have a BF and he wouldnt like it i gave my number out and i responded with well i have to go in one sec but before i do could you tell me whats it like to be in the perfect relationship? and her answer was something dumb like you can just be yourself around them. and then i ha d a little more small talk but then left. retrospectively i think i should of went for a email close as it is less personal and even though she rejected me i still plan on being friends with her because i can use to her to increase my social value in the class

i did more approaches but im tired right now and dont feel like posting all of them but one of the most important things is just to warm up. Im getting more confident talking to girls. I plan to continue my journey and maybe one day even make a youtube video on pick up I have a friend who is a film major who could help me with it but i dont know when i would be ready to do it but its one of my goals. btw thanks for the help guys and the compliments


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:57 am 
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Good work man. Getting over AA can be tricky, and i don't go near day game, but i a good way to get into a chatty mood which can kill AA is make yourself really happy. Go for a jog as a warm up for example, then come home and eat your favorite meal, whilst listening to your favorite artist. You'll feel amazing after this, and have a positive, happy outlook. This really helps get over AA because you will be more optimistic about the outcome of an approach.


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