Ok I first started talking to this girl from plenty of fish and got her number after my third message. where-did-i-go-wrong-with-this-okcupid- ... 83189.html (Story of this girl starts at 4th post)

Anyway. I texted her 24 hours after that. This entire text convo lasted about 30 min.

Me: Hey is this (her POF name)?
Her: Haha..yep it sure is..who's this?
Me: Are you able to guess which guy this is ?
Her: Nope
Me: not the slightest clue?
Me: Ok well ill give you a hint, it starts with a c and we talked online.
Her: Chris?
Me Nah, got the first two letters though, take one more guess then i'll tell you
Her: Chase?
Me: Nope. Minus points for you My name is Charlie but I'm (my POF name) online. And you?
Her: Well mine is in my profile so now you can play this game sucker
Me: Fine be that way Well I just wanted to make contact and make sure you were real. I can't talk tonight since I have a lot to do before class tomorrow but i'll call you around this time tomorrow if you behave
Her: Haha...ok sounds good. Have a good night.




Ok so I think it went pretty well. I fooled with her a bit with my name since I was curious of how much competition I have. My theory was that if she wasn't talking to that many guys she could easily guess it. Apparently I have a lot of competition unless she was guessing random names.

I'm going to call her tomorrow and I'm getting nervous thinking about it. I need tips for phone game since I'm not very experienced at it off the fly (with girls I don't know that well). I'm fine with girl friends and other people.

Also anything I should change with my text game next time?

Mannn... she is just playing you with the name thing, she knew exactly who you were!

My advice is give it a day or so in between initiating a text conversation if you want a bit more to-ing and fro-ing, I would just call her though mid evening and catch her on the bounce, tell her you thought you would save her and that you're near her in a couple of nights time visiting a friend in the area but you'd like to meet her for a drink or coffee beforehand, tell her you can only meet her for like 30mins or an hour and you should be able to figure out whether she is a serial killer in that time, don't keep her on her phone waffling shit for too long, keep it light hearted and fun, make the arrangements then txt her on the day telling her you've told friends and family where you'll be just incase you don't turn up afterwards incase she kidnaps you.

If you're worried about calling her just make sure you're in the right frame of mind beforehand, don't be thinking about what you're going to say for too long - try and make the conversation natural... talk to her like you're talking to a friend! You need to build a bit of comfort at this stage so the cheeky and fun guy is definitely the one who she'll want to meet up with...

Correct me if this is wrong, for me it's a good sign if she is playing with me it shows interest rather then disinterest

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Yeah it's a good thing, there's also a mild shit test in there too!!

Ok cool thanks guys. What do I do if there's times of dead silence or awkward pauses on the phone? She lives like an hour from me so a meet up isn't a huge issue and I'm in the area most of the year, not just visiting.

Ok i'm about to call her, I don't want to chicken out but I was thinking of a question game to get to know each other ect. Anyone have any good icebreaker routines? We still don't know much about each other so this could either be an hour+ phone convo if it goes well and she's into me otherwise I'll have to try and meet with her in person.

How does phone game work? In the past I've always done the phone stuff After meeting her in person and its less awkward.

Ok I made the call but it went to her messaging service. I didn't leave a message. Should I call later or is it over if she doesn't call back?

Should I text her tomorrow saying "call me" ? or not. I don't want one missed call to kill this whole thing.

DO NOT text her saying that. You already called her, she'll know. If she wants you, she'll contact you. If not, move on man, there are plenty of girls out there that would love to contact you.

The dude is right, DO NOT text her, at least for several days to a week, then get a txt thing going again like you did before but call her out about swerving your call...

In the real world people are busy, she may have got nervous, you don't know what it is, just don't act desperate by txting her afterwards, give her a bit of space...again this may also be a mild shit test, she might need to know you're cool and not needy.

Next time you call, if she misses the call again just leave a cheeky message like "I guess you're out doing your serial killer thing, I'll give you a txt sometime over the new few days when I'm free"

Don't worry about the silences or what you will say, think like you're talking to someone you know, try not to ask her too many questions, make statements about yourself or a situation then lead her into the question like

"Hey I like **** how about you? If you were here we could goto **** Do you know anywhere near you we could do/try it, I'm in your hood so i'm relying on you here, you know we should have a thumb war, loser pays" (good one for kino!)

Sorry I left you hanging last night!

Ohhh and you never know, while you're doing your cool and non needy thing - she might get in touch!

I always make sure I have several girls I'm talking to, I contact one of them at a time then the next day I contact a different one, this way I'm not txting the shit out of all of them... I also keep myself busy, gym/football straight after work, cook dinner, bit of volunteering, meet up with friends, kick someones ass on the PS3, hang out with girls i'm not gaming, read, watch movies, save the world etc... don't make your life around game or one girl, make sure you have an active and interesting lifestyle too, otherwise when you do get the one you want it isn't going to last!

Thanks guys, I didn't send her a text. But I'm still waiting for her call 12 hours later but for all I know she could call tonight. If not maybe try again this weekend? That would be a bummer, I thought I had her.

Unfortunately I don't have any lineup of girls. I wish I did. Its hard when you only have one at a time.

Don't call on the weekend! you want her to think you have a busy social life and not waiting to call her...

Get out there and game some more girls, talk to ones you're not really interested in, get yourself busy!

For future reference,.. I have called SOOOOOO many women from online dating websites,.. and only once has one actually picked up on the first call. It ALWAYS goes to voice mail,.. so for the first call I always have a fun playful message memorized to say.

The message usually plays on some joke, or some way we were teasing each other in email, is always short,.. always includes the words "I'm going to bed at 10, so anytime before that is good", and I never say my name, though it's obvious who it is.

For instance,.. there was one girl who was being really nosy, so I told her in email that I'm a spy and it's just better for her if I don't give out this info. That turned into a fun playful flirty conversation which eventually lead to me getting her number.

So when I called,.. the message I left was this. "Hi, I'm keeping this short because spys don't leave messages. I'll be off the grid by 10, but anytime you can call before then is good. This message will self destruct in 10 seconds,..."

Phone conversations tend to go the same way btw,.. I have a few things in mind that I know I can turn into an interesting conversation go to funny news sights for tips, memorize a story or two that is fun and weird to get the conversation going - that's great backup, but honestly I don't use them all the time,.. most of the time there's enough in just general life to talk about, and be on the lookout for anything to tease her with,.. this is GOLD and it's what will lead to the date. Another thing,.. don't be afraid of silence,.. a perfectly placed moment of silence will have a better effect than all the words in the world.

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